posted March 03, 2013 04:50 PM            

When will I have my first child?

Here is the chart:

If anyone wants to help out, I'd be greatly honored and appreciate you doing this.

posted March 03, 2013 05:54 PM            

You are sun and 5th house of children is represented by jupiter.
sun square jupiter a separating aspect, a separating aspect means that a past event took place, maybe you had a chance to have one 5 month ago?

Nex aspect between sun and jupiter is going to be sextile, if i am not wrong, but i can't see no of degree, you erase the data.

posted March 03, 2013 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
Well Moon will oppose Jupiter in 8 time units, which I suppose could be weeks or months - months makes sense for your question, I presume you're not pregnant. If it's weeks (and it should be faster than months since it's an angular aspect), then it's when you will conceive, I think.

However, I don't like Pluto intercepting in your 5th house... You might have some struggles with this, losses, perhaps miscarriages. And Moon's last aspect is a square to Mars. So while I think you have a chance to get pregnant in 8 weeks or other time units, it might be troublesome. I am really sorry and hope that I am wrong.

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posted March 03, 2013 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
Well Moon will oppose Jupiter in 8 time units, which I suppose could be weeks or months - months makes sense for your question, I presume you're not pregnant. If it's weeks (and it should be faster than months since it's an angular aspect), then it's when you will conceive, I think.

However, I don't like Pluto intercepting in your 5th house... You might have some struggles with this, losses, perhaps miscarriages. And Moon's last aspect is a square to Mars. So while I think you have a chance to get pregnant in 8 weeks or other time units, it might be troublesome. I am really sorry and hope that I am wrong.

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posted March 03, 2013 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by crys:
Hi,

You are sun and 5th house of children is represented by jupiter.
sun square jupiter a separating aspect, a separating aspect means that a past event took place, maybe you had a chance to have one 5 month ago?

Nex aspect between sun and jupiter is going to be sextile, if i am not wrong, but i can't see no of degree, you erase the data.

All the best.

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No chance at all 5 months ago nope

posted March 03, 2013 07:09 PM            

First, I'm concerned about the moon position here because its a VOC moon - ie, between 27-3 degrees. That is, the chart is 'technically' unreliable.

But I'll go ahead and give it a go....be back in a bit.

Hug!

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Also, just for your (& everyone's) information, timing is actually calculated very exactly in Horay.

Time Factor
The amount of time involved can be found by counting the number of degrees between Significators for an aspect to be exact. Time is measured in days, weeks, months, years or unknown according to the quality of the sign the Signifcator of the querent is in, and its house occupancy. In a cardinal sign and angular house, time is in days; in a cardinal sign and succedent house, time is in weeks; in a cardinal sign and cadent house, time is in months. If the Significator is in a fixed sign and angular house, time is in months; in a fixed sign and succedent house, time is in years; in a fixed sign and cadent house, time is unknown. If the Signifcator is in a mutable sign and angular house, time is in weeks; in a mutable sign and succedent house, time is in months; in a mutable sign and cadent house, time is in years.

posted March 03, 2013 08:24 PM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
Hi @Asclibrasun - YEAH for babies!!!

First, I'm concerned about the moon position here because its a VOC moon - ie, between 27-3 degrees. That is, the chart is 'technically' unreliable.

But I'll go ahead and give it a go....be back in a bit.

Hug!

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Also, just for your (& everyone's) information, timing is actually calculated very exactly in Horay.

Time Factor
The amount of time involved can be found by counting the number of degrees between Significators for an aspect to be exact. Time is measured in days, weeks, months, years or unknown according to the quality of the sign the Signifcator of the querent is in, and its house occupancy. In a cardinal sign and angular house, time is in days; in a cardinal sign and succedent house, time is in weeks; in a cardinal sign and cadent house, time is in months. If the Significator is in a fixed sign and angular house, time is in months; in a fixed sign and succedent house, time is in years; in a fixed sign and cadent house, time is unknown. If the Signifcator is in a mutable sign and angular house, time is in weeks; in a mutable sign and succedent house, time is in months; in a mutable sign and cadent house, time is in years.

From: http://www.moonvalleyastrologer.com/horary-astrology/

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Thanks, I look forward to hearing from what you see in the chart!

posted March 03, 2013 08:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
Well Moon will oppose Jupiter in 8 time units, which I suppose could be weeks or months - months makes sense for your question, I presume you're not pregnant. If it's weeks (and it should be faster than months since it's an angular aspect), then it's when you will conceive, I think.

However, I don't like Pluto intercepting in your 5th house... You might have some struggles with this, losses, perhaps miscarriages. And Moon's last aspect is a square to Mars. So while I think you have a chance to get pregnant in 8 weeks or other time units, it might be troublesome. I am really sorry and hope that I am wrong.

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posted March 03, 2013 08:36 PM            

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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
Wait a second, moon is trine mars in the chart (not square like you said)

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posted March 03, 2013 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
It will square moon later on (Moon's last aspect - not shown in the chart will be a sq to mars)

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posted March 03, 2013 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
Thanks, I look forward to hearing from what you see in the chart!

here is an excerpt from the book Horary Astrology Plain & Simple: One astrological tradition holds that a void of course moon in Gemini, Scorpio, or Capricorn (signs opposite Sagittarius, Taurus, Cancer) is an especially negative influence that invalidates the chart.

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Yes, I think though this quote is more suited towards what you are trying to get at!

Lilly said that "all manner of matters go hardly on (except the principal significators be very strong) when the Moon is void of course; yet sometimes she performs if void of course, if in Taurus, Cancer, Sagittarius, or Pisces." Apparently the Moon does well in her own sign Cancer, in her exaltation sign Taurus, and in the signs of the great benefic Jupiter, that is, Sagittarius and Pisces. According to Guido Bonatus, if the Moon "be in Cancer, Taurus, Sagittarius, or Pisces, it signifies good in the matter, although she be joined to the Infortunes and not to the Fortunes; nor does she, being void of course, prejudice so much in those places as elsewhere, provided she be not Combust, for then they will advantage her little or nothing." The Moon is combust when too close to the Sun.

Anthony Louis. Horary Astrology: Plain & Simple: Fast & Accurate Answers to Real World Questions (p. 59). Kindle Edition.

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Which makes me think are you already pregnant? This and also the 2 degrees separating between Sun/Saturn/Pluto - ie we are talking about something that has already happened (i.e., making you pregnant). As well as Hera's answer of 8 counts.

posted March 03, 2013 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
Yes, I think though this quote is more suited towards what you are trying to get at!

Lilly said that "all manner of matters go hardly on (except the principal significators be very strong) when the Moon is void of course; yet sometimes she performs if void of course, if in Taurus, Cancer, Sagittarius, or Pisces." Apparently the Moon does well in her own sign Cancer, in her exaltation sign Taurus, and in the signs of the great benefic Jupiter, that is, Sagittarius and Pisces. According to Guido Bonatus, if the Moon "be in Cancer, Taurus, Sagittarius, or Pisces, it signifies good in the matter, although she be joined to the Infortunes and not to the Fortunes; nor does she, being void of course, prejudice so much in those places as elsewhere, provided she be not Combust, for then they will advantage her little or nothing." The Moon is combust when too close to the Sun.

Anthony Louis. Horary Astrology: Plain & Simple: Fast & Accurate Answers to Real World Questions (p. 59). Kindle Edition.

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Which makes me think are you already pregnant? This and also the 2 degrees separating between Sun/Saturn/Pluto. As well as Hera's answer.

So let me double check the time aspect okay? To see if the count is eight months. BRB.

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posted March 03, 2013 09:34 PM            

Okay well then shall we take the question as to when you will get pregnant instead of when you will have your first child?

Because taking Hera's Moon/Jupiter aspect into account, Moon is in Sag = Mutable and 4th House (angular) which would make it 8 weeks. If you aren't having sex it will be hard to have your first child in 8 weeks...

Will you be having sex in 8 weeks?

posted March 03, 2013 09:38 PM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
Ha ha ha.

Okay well then shall we take the question as to when you will get pregnant instead of when you will have your first child?

Because taking Hera's Moon/Jupiter aspect into account, Moon is in Sag = Mutable and 4th House (angular) which would make it 8 weeks. If you aren't having sex it will be hard to have your first child in 8 weeks...

Will you be having sex in 8 weeks?

(Thanks for making me laugh, you are such a dear!)

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Good point, I phrased the question incorrectly - it should have been the latter

posted March 03, 2013 09:54 PM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
BTW, I think you should quit smoking regardless!

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posted March 03, 2013 09:55 PM            

Hera said that in 8 weeks there is a chance of conception... can anyone elaborate on this?

That's kinda soon

posted March 03, 2013 10:06 PM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
I'm elaborating and explaining, just slow in writing!

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thank you

posted March 03, 2013 10:08 PM            

*the reason I think is the correct is because the Fifth House which rules children is the 5th House and Capricorn = Saturn but Night, where as Aquarius = Saturn Day

But I also agree that Jupiter is a ruler of the baby because 5th House is in Sag first then Cap. Pluto also rules the baby from being in the 5th House.

Likewise, you are also the moon by default, so I also agree with @Hera.

Anyhow, looks like the only one NOT explored here is the Sun and Saturn. Which do make an aspect = Good. But Saturn is retrograde and the aspects are separating - not so good. So I think here I would look at all the relationships where there is aspecting with the Sun and the Moon.

Sun and Jupiter - Square separating -5
Sun and Saturn and Pluto - Trine separating 2
Moon and Jupiter - Opposition applying - 8

Also, I'm wondering how to consider all the other aspects that Moon has here (Venus, Mars and Neptune) - because here if you notice, Moon and Asc also are Square - applying 5 and you are Ascendant. This count of 5 would be in Leo, 1st House = Fixed Angular = 5 months.

So that's my novice reading for now (with explanation just for you!) I'll come back to it later, but I have stuff due tomorrow so I need to get back to that...

posted March 03, 2013 10:11 PM            

If you have questions ask and I will respond in the next day or so. Also, I'll go back to this when I have more time and do some more research.

To be honest, I feel like you should ask again - and maybe more about having sex or having a good relationship with the guy, first. Don't get ahead of yourself.

posted March 03, 2013 10:14 PM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
You = Leo = Sun = 7th House Pisces = peregrine - not so good, i.e. not in your control
Baby? = Aquarius = Saturn = 3rd House Scorpio

*the reason I think is the correct is because the Fifth House which rules children is the 5th House and Capricorn = Saturn but Night, where as Aquarius = Saturn Day

But I also agree that Jupiter is a ruler of the baby because 5th House is in Sag first then Cap. Pluto also rules the baby from being in the 5th House.

Likewise, you are also the moon by default, so I also agree with @Hera.

Anyhow, looks like the only one NOT explored here is the Sun and Saturn. Which do make an aspect = Good. But Saturn is retrograde and the aspects are separating - not so good. So I think here I would look at all the relationships where there is aspecting with the Sun and the Moon.

Sun and Jupiter - Square separating -5
Sun and Saturn and Pluto - Trine separating 2
Moon and Jupiter - Opposition applying - 8

Also, I'm wondering how to consider all the other aspects that Moon has here (Venus, Mars and Neptune) - because here if you notice, Moon and Asc also are Square - applying 5 and you are Ascendant. This count of 5 would be in Leo, 1st House = Fixed Angular = 5 months.

So that's my novice reading for now (with explanation just for you!) I'll come back to it later, but I have stuff due tomorrow so I need to get back to that...

Hug!

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posted March 03, 2013 10:18 PM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
PS, Don't feel sad - HUG!

If you have questions ask and I will respond in the next day or so. Also, I'll go back to this when I have more time and do some more research.

To be honest, I feel like you should ask again - and maybe more about having sex or having a good relationship with the guy, first. Don't get ahead of yourself.

But remember not to ask when the moon is void. Here's the calendar I go by in case.
http://www.drstandley.com/March_2013_Void_of_Course_Moon_Calendar.shtml

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posted March 03, 2013 10:20 PM            

To be honest, altogether, I would avoid asking questions when Saturn and Mercury are retrograde. Wait until that is over.

I don't know enough about Horay yet - but essentially, I think its a midpoint chart of your Birthday and the Time/Day/Year, etc. Knowing that, you could somewhat cheat system - ie, there are just certain times and places to ask questions to get positive outcomes. I'm just not that great of a mathematician.

Go on to astro.com and there's this really cool feature where you can get musical progression/transits, that should cheer you up.

Hug and talk tomorrow.