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asclibrasagsun
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posted March 15, 2013 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My question is: Will I go to grad. school abroad in a few months?????


Here's the chart:


I am supposed to be graduating from college soon and I have not found a real job so I was thinking about continuing my education, which is something I am actually interested in to be truthful. However, my current financial situation is kind of preventing me to commit to the experience...what I mean is that I am currently waiting on funds in order to pay for part of the tuition and to register my spot in the grad school program.

Will I get the money to pay for school? (not for the whole program but for part of the deposit, for the rest of the program I will get a loan)

When will I get it?

Will then I go abroad to participate in the program?


Thanks

Mercury is my significator since Virgo is the ascendant correct?
Jupiter in my 9th house... good? But it squares Mercury in a separating aspect...

Can anyone help out please? I am just making myself more and more confused...

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posted March 15, 2013 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like a NO to me. BUT I am super tired, so do not have the energy to look to carefully. i.e. at first glance its
a separating square 4 counts, and no moon aspects. Wait, is it VOC (kidding.) You may want to look more thoroughly though at dignity and debility.

Here's my silliness though for you for the day! The sabian reading of your ascendant. Hug!

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PHASE 177 (VIRGO 27°): A GROUP OF ARISTOCRATIC LADIES MEET CEREMONIALLY AT A COURT'S FUNCTION.

KEYNOTE: The ability to carry on a revered tradition in order to perpetuate cultural standards of excellence.

At the highest peak of achievement of any fully developed culture the King considers himself in some manner a representative of the Power that controls the order of the universe. From him descends a hierarchy of offices performed by an aristocracy. On the feminine side, to be an aristocrat is to be able to act efficiently in the many rituals of a culture — from official tea parties to presentations at the Court. Dignity, elegance and respect for formal rules are essential.

We may consider the formalism obsolete and meaningless, yet when it ceases to be observed the culture breaks down. Even now in this age of crisis and world transformation, there may be times when honoring formal procedures can be of great value for the disordered and rebellious mind.

This second stage symbol presents the contrast between the "profane" and the "sacred" ritual. But the two need not be antithetic. Our over-individualistic and confused new generations find it valuable to study Japanese tea ceremonies, flower arrangement, judo, etc. The undisciplined need to learn REFINEMENT.

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posted March 15, 2013 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i.e. it looks like you should be doing some learning of some sort?

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posted March 15, 2013 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah dear, but it really cannot be all that cut and dry and that just because there is a sep. aspect means no right?

jupiter is in the 9th house of travel! I mean come on I thought that alone meant a yes because it not only is in the 9th house of education and higher learning but also jupiter in there usually means study abroad!

I was not too well focused when I asked it and thought that maybe I should wait until after march 17th to do so but due to boredom and such I thought why not...

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posted March 15, 2013 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This sucks. Can any pros chime in?

I have never gotten a positive answer about anything with Horary, it is always a ******* no!

No to relationship questions, no to learning....

wtf?!??!??


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posted March 15, 2013 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its official, you and horay do not get along. (This very thought though could be why its also not working.)

Its not just the separating aspect, its also because that the planets are making a negative aspect, i.e. opposite/square. The moon (as querent also) makes no aspect. Plus, both planets are also in their detriment, does not look good. Plus, Mercury retrograde.

I've been doing at lot of asteroids readings these days. Maybe you should look to see where ACADEMIA is in your chart? Or just look at something that is concrete instead of predictive...

I'm glad the Lenormand is working out. Remember placement of card is important - how close it is for example to you the lady. Also the way that the cards are laid out. That is, what is in the same column as you, what is diagonal from you, etc. Good luck, hun. Sorry. HUG!

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posted March 15, 2013 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by imeanj:
Its official, you and horay do not get along. (This very thought though could be why its also not working.)

Its not just the separating aspect, its also because that the planets are making a negative aspect, i.e. opposite/square. The moon (as querent also) makes no aspect. Plus, both planets are also in their detriment, does not look good. Plus, Mercury retrograde.

I've been doing at lot of asteroids readings these days. Maybe you should look to see where ACADEMIA is in your chart? Or just look at something that is concrete instead of predictive...

I'm glad the Lenormand is working out. Remember placement of card is important - how close it is for example to you the lady. Also the way that the cards are laid out. That is, what is in the same column as you, what is diagonal from you, etc. Good luck, hun. Sorry. HUG!


Aw yeah, everytime I do an horary - in my mind I just always know that it is going to be a no, because I keep thinking I bet this planet will be retrograde or the moon will be voc, or something will go wrong...etc etc etc.... you know

I just did the electronic lenormand! I don't have the deck. I also use electronic tarot... does this diminish accuracy significantly?

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posted March 16, 2013 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah, I don't think so. I use an online I Ching site for a lot of my readings and its eerily accurate. I think for Tarot, etc. though its important to go in depth and get an understanding of the cards themselves. There's a lot of psychic-ness and interpretation there - just keep practicing and learning for that matter.

BTW, remember when you read for me for fun? I only got into one school so far, but its a pretty amazing situation - it was my safety, but they are coming thru with money and just a lot of support. Its nice.

I think the thing is to stay optimistic but also not read too much. Sometimes, life just plays out what its supposed to.

How are things otherwise? Probably a bit anxious with school ending and all?

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posted March 16, 2013 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS, I often find it hard to read for myself, what I want the outcome to be often gets in the way...

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posted March 16, 2013 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by imeanj:
Nah, I don't think so. I use an online I Ching site for a lot of my readings and its eerily accurate. I think for Tarot, etc. though its important to go in depth and get an understanding of the cards themselves. There's a lot of psychic-ness and interpretation there - just keep practicing and learning for that matter.

BTW, remember when you read for me for fun? I only got into one school so far, but its a pretty amazing situation - it was my safety, but they are coming thru with money and just a lot of support. Its nice.

I think the thing is to stay optimistic but also not read too much. Sometimes, life just plays out what its supposed to.

How are things otherwise? Probably a bit anxious with school ending and all?


Aha! I knew you would get in!!! Best of luck to you and I hope you make the best choice

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posted March 16, 2013 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 16, 2013 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think the answer is a no. But I don't see a clear yes either.

The chart shows you right now in a day-dreamy state, fantasizing about this, perhaps stating some unrealistic goals about this. There is a sense of passivity here in your position.

Indeed there seems to be a money problem. Saturn in the 2nd, with Moon separating from an opposition to it. Ruler of your finances, as well as your studies is, surprise-surprise, the same, Venus, combust and cadent, though otherwise essentially exalted (clearly shows you want this and have the intellectual abilities to pull it off). It all seems so far outside your reach. Your family (Jup) would like to help and see you continue your studies (they wouldn't be in the 9th otherwise) but they're in detriment also and cannot support you (separating square).

Moon is in the 8th which usually is a bad house, but I think in this case it shows you thinking about a loan (you are in other ppl's money house after all). Mars ruler of the 8th is in a quite positive position, both in its own sign and angular. Mars is how you can fix the problem. So, what about Mars? Well unfortunately there is no aspect between your rulers and Mars atm. Unless you count the semi-sextile Mercury Rx is making but since Merc goes direct at 5 deg changes his mind (nonetheless Mars reaches Mercury on its own). I find it interesting that Mars is in the 7th. Also, that it's conj Uranus (which can mean a big shocking surprise, positive or negative). Money could come through a partnership of some sort or a signed contract. Because POF trines Mars-Uranus and sextiles Jup (and though Mars is not yet in orb with Jup, it will sextile it).

Also, Moon. It doesn't yet apply to Venus by sextile, but it will. Moon also changes house to the 9th. And its last aspect? Sextile to Sun, ruler of your hopes and dreams where POF shines.


In conclusion, though it doesn't look good right now, it *might* happen. I emphasize might because it is a bit of an overstretch. The aspects I mentioned that can help you turn things in your favor are not yet in orb. Application means intent. There is no intention *yet*. Chart shows you dreamy and passive right now. You need to start to move things around, ask about loans in other places, inform yourself (you're Mercury for a reason and you will go direct soon, so get on with it!!)

I think you *might* get a sponsor and sign some sort of a contract (mars in 7th) and this sponsor could be either a friend or an organization (11th). If you're going to study abroad this is how I see you could do it, from the chart.


EDIT: Post No. 5555, maybe it's a sign ^_^
I wish you good luck with it!

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posted March 16, 2013 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hera:
I don't think the answer is a no. But I don't see a clear yes either.

The chart shows you right now in a day-dreamy state, fantasizing about this, perhaps stating some unrealistic goals about this. There is a sense of passivity here in your position.

Indeed there seems to be a money problem. Saturn in the 2nd, with Moon separating from an opposition to it. Ruler of your finances, as well as your studies is, surprise-surprise, the same, Venus, combust and cadent, though otherwise essentially exalted (clearly shows you want this and have the intellectual abilities to pull it off). It all seems so far outside your reach. Your family (Jup) would like to help and see you continue your studies (they wouldn't be in the 9th otherwise) but they're in detriment also and cannot support you (separating square).

Moon is in the 8th which usually is a bad house, but I think in this case it shows you thinking about a loan (you are in other ppl's money house after all). Mars ruler of the 8th is in a quite positive position, both in its own sign and angular. Mars is how you can fix the problem. So, what about Mars? Well unfortunately there is no aspect between your rulers and Mars atm. Unless you count the semi-sextile Mercury Rx is making but since Merc goes direct at 5 deg changes his mind (nonetheless Mars reaches Mercury on its own). I find it interesting that Mars is in the 7th. Also, that it's conj Uranus (which can mean a big shocking surprise, positive or negative). Money could come through a partnership of some sort or a signed contract. Because POF trines Mars-Uranus and sextiles Jup (and though Mars is not yet in orb with Jup, it will sextile it).

Also, Moon. It doesn't yet apply to Venus by sextile, but it will. Moon also changes house to the 9th. And its last aspect? Sextile to Sun, ruler of your hopes and dreams where POF shines.


In conclusion, though it doesn't look good right now, it *might* happen. I emphasize might because it is a bit of an overstretch. The aspects I mentioned that can help you turn things in your favor are not yet in orb. Application means intent. There is no intention *yet*. Chart shows you dreamy and passive right now. You need to start to move things around, ask about loans in other places, inform yourself (you're Mercury for a reason and you will go direct soon, so get on with it!!)

I think you *might* get a sponsor and sign some sort of a contract (mars in 7th) and this sponsor could be either a friend or an organization (11th). If you're going to study abroad this is how I see you could do it, from the chart.


EDIT: Post No. 5555, maybe it's a sign ^_^
I wish you good luck with it!


Wow! Thanks, that is how I feel. I am not really doing much for it because I know I do not have the funds right now, plus I feel a bit sluggish and my mind is roaming around on other topics like relationships and all that. I still kind of have a feeling I will go because staying here is not really an option for me : there isn't much to do, what I mean by that is there is no school like that here and plus it is just super boring, maybe if I was in a relationship I would enjoy living here more but I am not . The truth is I am trying to move abroad in general, but feeling kind of powerless.

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posted March 16, 2013 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you will, but it will take some time and teeth grinning, and you need some serious strategy and planning ahead if you want to do it. Wanted to ask you whether there is a bf involved lol because the sponsor can come through a partner/bf, family member or coworker/fitness instructor etc (6th house stuff).

Also, one of your parents or family members secretly doesn't want you to move or someone interferes regarding this with your family. Pluto intercepts in your 4th. It doesn't look like it will negatively influence things, though, but for some reason popped in my head.

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posted March 16, 2013 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
I think you will, but it will take some time and teeth grinning, and you need some serious strategy and planning ahead if you want to do it. Wanted to ask you whether there is a bf involved lol because the sponsor can come through a partner/bf, family member or coworker/fitness instructor etc (6th house stuff).

Also, one of your parents or family members secretly doesn't want you to move or someone interferes regarding this with your family. Pluto intercepts in your 4th. It doesn't look like it will negatively influence things, though, but for some reason popped in my head.


YES indeed! My mother does not want me to move!!!!! But my father is not able to technically support me financially, he is saying that he is trying to get some money, but so far nothing...
I do not have a traditional bf per se, but I do have a love interest and he is very interested in having me get an additional degree, so there is a lot of moral support coming from his side. Do you think this is what it indicates?
(Also I was thinking that maybe (although this is a bit of a stretch) he would end up loaning me his apartment there to use for when I move abroad, would this be indicative of support? We have had no talk about this though. I would only consider discussing it after the application and money comes through.) OH and another thing is that: I am thinking about the love interest a lot as I make this decision because I think the move abroad would somehow advance our relationship tremendously, i.e. he would come to visit a lot since we cannot freely meet like that here but there we would find some excuse.

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posted March 16, 2013 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
EDIT: Post No. 5555, maybe it's a sign ^_^

5555 - travel is beneficial for you
DO IT!

@Hera, will you double check/pipe in on the military horary reading i did?

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posted March 16, 2013 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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5555 - travel is beneficial for you
DO IT!

@Hera, will you double check/pipe in on the military horary reading i did?


got it!!!! phenomenal

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posted March 17, 2013 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by imeanj:
5555 - travel is beneficial for you
DO IT!

@Hera, will you double check/pipe in on the military horary reading i did?


which one is it? sorry, just saw this now.

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posted March 17, 2013 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/006337.html

THANK YOU for following up. I'm learning a lot from you - I especially liked the Venia reading. Makes sense since there was so much action planet-wise in the 7th.

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posted March 17, 2013 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm learning a lot from you too, you know. It's nice to see so much horary action on this board! More heads are better than one.

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posted March 17, 2013 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo36     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
[B]This sucks. Can any pros chime in?

I have never gotten a positive answer about anything with Horary, it is always a ******* no!

No to relationship questions, no to learning....

wtf?!??!??

@ asclibrasagsun: I would love if you could check out my horary chart and offer some feedback. My topic is title Horary Amateur. I would appreciate it and Thanks. I think this maybe your first "yes"

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posted March 17, 2013 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
I'm learning a lot from you too, you know. It's nice to see so much horary action on this board! More heads are better than one.

Hera I am going to prep. another horary for us to discuss, I would love it if you would join the conversation again

It will probably be tomorrow or the day after

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