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felngfrogy Newflake Posts: 13 From: longford, ks, 67458 Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 12:27 AM I believe im currently emotionally and spiritually connected to my soul falme...im married and its not my husband. This connection is much more than a that...im wondering if anyone can confirm what im experiencing! IP: Logged
ELoveCherishEndure Knowflake Posts: 138 From: Nyack, New York, USA Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 02:45 AM Well, in what way do you want it to be confirmed? I am down to help you so do tell... IP: Logged
felngfrogy Newflake Posts: 13 From: longford, ks, 67458 Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 11:11 AM Id like to know what the connection is between us. If it'll ever be in this life time or another that we will physically connect. Im ok with what we have now! Thank you for wanting to help. I hope this is enough but whatever you can tell me will be just fine with me! IP: Logged
ELoveCherishEndure Knowflake Posts: 138 From: Nyack, New York, USA Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 04:35 PM I am trying to feel the vibes here so I sense a seperation that was months ago over something that you may see as stupid. It seemed as if the relationship was going so well when all of a sudden, there was a crossroads that you didn't notice. Ever since, you have been stepping back towards it in order to find strength and to restore what was lost. This person was a symbol of who you could become if you allowed yourself to become full in you. You seek something eternal with this person but they are seasonal and as of now, they are out of season. A physical reunion is likely but not in the way that you may want it to be as lower energy hostility from your marriage(s) if the other person is also married may factor into what you feel. I would say prepare for a reunion because twin flames if it is part of the karmic cycle do meet again and in this cycle, I sense that you will but how I am feeling it, the way you will meet again won't be the pleasant experience you are seeking from your dying marriage (if it is dying that is) I think it is more of a strain that has been put on you since this person came into your life therefore clouding you and your husband's connection and making it extremely difficult to rekindle any kind of romance. Be careful because even though the romance and bond may not seem as hot, it can be repaired. What is likely to happen if you don't assess the situation fully with your twin is likely to be very fatalistic and draining as the parallels of your emotions are going at a mile a minute. I would say please make sure that there are mutual feelings before you do anything and that it is not one sided fate because it will have a 'molehill into a mountain" if you are not cautious and will snowball into everything around you. What you and this twin have is very intense but please make sure that the partnership has strong enough foundation to last because meeting this twin again is GUARANTEED to bring back repressed memories of trauma that if neither of you are ready to handle will only amplify your situation. I don't know why I keep warning you but please heed it. Be cautious of this guy you're looking to reunite with. There is tons more under his surface and it may not show as there is a lot of trauma within childhood and for some reason I sense taunting, bullying, something traumatic on either side, I am unsure of whether it is him or you but please don't step into this with rose colored glasses on. It is going to be a rollercoaster that you may want to escape from if you don't get your marriage together. I hope I didn't offend you or misread vibes that I am feeling about this. Do give feedback because again, I didn't use any kind of medium except feeling and instinct here and some things in your situation I may have misinterpreted my instincts completely. But I do have a feeling that you needed this regardless of how much you may identify with but did I get the gist of this or what? Let me know All love, Elove IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 05:37 PM @ Elove, my name is April. I don't know what type of connection i have with this guy, but I can't seem to get over him. It feels like I just have to have him in my life and I don't know. I'm confused, upset and frustrated because as bad as I want to move on, I miss him terribly. Can you help me determine what type of connection we share? I havent seen or spoken to him in several months without reason or explanation he ceased communication with me. I would appreciate it if you could help me out as well. IP: Logged
ELoveCherishEndure Knowflake Posts: 138 From: Nyack, New York, USA Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 05:50 PM quote: Originally posted by Virgo36: @ Elove, my name is April. I don't know what type of connection i have with this guy, but I can't seem to get over him. It feels like I just have to have him in my life and I don't know. I'm confused, upset and frustrated because as bad as I want to move on, I miss him terribly. Can you help me determine what type of connection we share? I havent seen or spoken to him in several months without reason or explanation he ceased communication with me. I would appreciate it if you could help me out as well. Of course, the first thing I see was an argument like a big one. And even though you might have not seen it coming, he was tired. If I am wrong, please correct me. But, was the relationship you two shared rocky in the sense of it always felt like the connection was more heavily weighted on your side and that you had to compensate for whatever it is that he lacked in the relationship? I can most definitely feel the burdens that you are carrying. You feel even a little betrayed because of the effort that was put into this thing by you. It is because you loved him that fate sealed it. But, this situation again is a rocky one considering that there is some irreparable damage that I sense in me with you also. But, even in spite of that, I do feel that a restorative energy is going to be the case for the both of you as time goes on and you both grow. There will be forgiveness between you for the hurts you feel on both sides because I am definitely feeling this weight on me just typing this to you. I think the next time you see each other, there needs to be a discussion about boundaries and a practical one as you seek to take things to a place that he isn't ready to take them at all and it created an internal conflict he couldn't run away from but wasn't ready to face yet. And you have to realize that it is going to take a while for him to heal but boundaries are the word here and boundaries are what I am feeling. Have you did a chart with a real heavy Saturn aspect to either Sun or Moon. if I may ask? And if so, were you the Saturn? IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 06:28 PM @ Elove him and I were never a couple. He has always been afraid to admit to me how he felt. I knew that he did, because I felt the connection we shared. Then a mutual friend told me that he is afraid to fall in love with me. What hurts me is? I can easily share how he feels and what confuses me is that he goes to great lengths to deny them, but will tell a mutual friend that he has always like me, always been attracted to me. I feel like he turned his back on me, I have always been this supportive, caring and genuine person to him. I don't know if its because he's married that he is afraid to honestly admit how he feels. I feel like I have gave and gave to him and it hurts because the feeling of giving from his end isn't mutual. what he is afraid of is that my enthusiasm about him will vanish once we get together. I think the age difference scares him. I think he's afraid that people will think he is foolish for wanting to be with me or he thinks its a foolish idea because he had never felt this way about anyone before. I know his past relationship with women have been painful and I think he's afraid to open his heart up to me. I think he knows deep down, I would be perfect for him, but it's fear. Yes, we share moon/Saturn conjunction and the double mars/Pluto conjunction IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 06:30 PM You can view our synastry chart in the topic titled Help with Synastry chart please. If you do view chart I'm the inside and guy is outside IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 06:35 PM Yes, there was an argument. Me being aggressive I tried to get him to admit his feelings for me and of course it back fired. Yes, it never seen it coming. It was then that the communication between us ceased. I would text, he wouldn't respond, I would call and he wouldn't answer. Then one day, out the blue he picks up and he is speechless doesn't know what to say to me. How does he feel about me? What do you sense IP: Logged
ELoveCherishEndure Knowflake Posts: 138 From: Nyack, New York, USA Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 06:44 PM quote: Originally posted by Virgo36: @ Elove him and I were never a couple. He has always been afraid to admit to me how he felt. I knew that he did, because I felt the connection we shared. Then a mutual friend told me that he is afraid to fall in love with me. What hurts me is? I can easily share how he feels and what confuses me is that he goes to great lengths to deny them, but will tell a mutual friend that he has always like me, always been attracted to me. I feel like he turned his back on me, I have always been this supportive, caring and genuine person to him. I don't know if its because he's married that he is afraid to honestly admit how he feels. I feel like I have gave and gave to him and it hurts because the feeling of giving from his end isn't mutual. what he is afraid of is that my enthusiasm about him will vanish once we get together. I think the age difference scares him. I think he's afraid that people will think he is foolish for wanting to be with me or he thinks its a foolish idea because he had never felt this way about anyone before. I know his past relationship with women have been painful and I think he's afraid to open his heart up to me. I think he knows deep down, I would be perfect for him, but it's fear. Yes, we share moon/Saturn conjunction and the double mars/Pluto conjunction Mars/Pluto seems to be the fated aspects. And most def the age difference is a boundary that he may not be ready to cross because of the fact that it is still quite niche to be in a May-December romance but again, BOUNDARIES are vital. Respect the distance between you and not just get overly into what others tell you because those same people will be the ones who will destroy both of you if you don't stop and think for a second. I understand the frustration but do not by any means recommend that you still attempt to reconcile or create anything close to a relationship until you are BOTH out of your marriages. This is another boundary that now I am seeing what I'm feeling. You have to stop being so harsh on yourself and feeling like you messed this up for you two. It was something that you wanted despite the boundaries that are clearly entailed and yes, the situation is complicated, but what I think you need to do, April is to take heed to the same thing I said above, to know that twin flames in marriages sometimes stay in them which is something you must consider. But be careful because of Saturn here and it is the main planet that I feel is restraining in the situation. And I think for now, it is most definitely best. Again, he isn't ready to not only because of his marriage but in addition, the various boundaries and restraints will make him emotionally unavailable for a long time in the way that you want him to be. Who is the Moon in this situation? Since you're having the heaviness in this, I would think it's you. IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 07:04 PM I'm married, it could be husband or this former co-worker that has a crush on him. Do you mind telling me? In regards to his feelings, how does he really feel about me. Like I said, he has never admitted his feelings to me but I know he feels something. So, you are saying let him come to me. You mention niche for may-December are you saying he will contact me then. Our synastry chart shows, he is in a failed marriage, do you sense that IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 07:11 PM It could very much be me. I love him and this separation hurts. I feel like he turned his back on me. I sent him several emails expressing to him how i felt. All which he never responded to. Now, because of this I know why. It was heaviness to me because I knew felt the connection I felt between us and I wanted it reciprocated IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 07:14 PM Tell me exactly how Saturn and its restraints work IP: Logged
ELoveCherishEndure Knowflake Posts: 138 From: Nyack, New York, USA Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 07:18 PM quote: Originally posted by Virgo36: I'm married, it could be husband or this former co-worker that has a crush on him. Do you mind telling me? In regards to his feelings, how does he really feel about me. Like I said, he has never admitted his feelings to me but I know he feels something. So, you are saying let him come to me. You mention niche for may-December are you saying he will contact me then. Our synastry chart shows, he is in a failed marriage, do you sense that Listen, I think you are going into overthink here. Stop overthinking this because you are only adding more fuel to your fire. Yes, that is EXACTLY what I'm saying. Fall back a whole lot and PATIENCE is key. It will happen within a year but you have to realize again, that I am giving you a year time span and as said on the synastry thread, there will be a reunion but as said, there seems to be an idealism you have of him now that I also sense as they did that once he tells you how deep his feelings are, you will eventually tire of his sensitivity and will no longer find his flaws attractive. He is apprehensive about leaving his marriage regardless of attraction and if he decides to go about this in the way that you imply, he is most definitely going to end up hurting you and vice versa. You're running up a downhill and he is sliding down. The directions are very different and leaving a failed marriage is always an adjustment and I see a lot of rockiness and instability that are paralyzing me here but again, your problem with this is most definitely the fact that you want definite dates and answers but it isn't that simple and it isn't really an astrological horary or anything that can give you an answer that isn't already clear. What is most definitely clear is that you need to grow and that is what is more important and I definitely don't see him being very beneficial to it. IP: Logged
ELoveCherishEndure Knowflake Posts: 138 From: Nyack, New York, USA Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 07:34 PM quote: Originally posted by Virgo36: Tell me exactly how Saturn and its restraints work Basically on his side, 12th house is the house of secrets, losses, and the unknown. My issue is I am still sensing this need to tell you to back up and look from overhead at this situation WITHOUT your feelings or actually look at the feelings that you have OBJECTIVELY. I think that may not seem right at this point but you are looking into this situation way too emotionally. This scenario is not desirable and you have to remember that more than likely, there is bound to be more and more disappointment if you keep on trying to initiate this man's emotions. IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 07:43 PM Wow, I needed to really hear it exactly the way you said it. You are right about everything, I do feel I messed this up. I feel I pushed when I should have been patient. Now, that I'm being patient I'm under the illusion he should be the one pushing. I feel like all I did was fight. There were a lot of people that came between us, putting stuff in his head and yet I continued fighting. He fought in the beginning, but it lasted temporary. Initially he fought bc he wanted it as bad as I did. Then came rumors and attention which caused problems for him at home. I appreciate your time and energy. I appreciate your truthfulness. I think the lesson I'm suppose to learn here is patience. Patience is the hardest thing to master, bc we want what we see with our eyes to have it in our hands. This is a lot of hurt I'm dealing with, so I guess what I really want is for the hurting to be over. This is why I look for definite time frames. I have been trying to move on, some days I do really good and others I don't. I want to get over him and move on, I really do. I feel like I rather have him in my life as a friend , then not having him in my life at all. IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 07:56 PM Yes, once again you are right. Me looking into this situation emotionally. Me, knowing the type of person that I am. Once I let go of something, I let go completely. I'm very stubborn. So, yes I can see when he finally wants to admit feelings I will probably be over him completely. Not because I don't love him, but because I have been hurt my whole life. I don't give second chances. I know it sad, and yes I still need to grow. IP: Logged
ELoveCherishEndure Knowflake Posts: 138 From: Nyack, New York, USA Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 07:57 PM quote: Originally posted by Virgo36: Wow, I needed to really hear it exactly the way you said it. You are right about everything, I do feel I messed this up. I feel I pushed when I should have been patient. Now, that I'm being patient I'm under the illusion he should be the one pushing. I feel like all I did was fight. There were a lot of people that came between us, putting stuff in his head and yet I continued fighting. He fought in the beginning, but it lasted temporary. Initially he fought bc he wanted it as bad as I did. Then came rumors and attention which caused problems for him at home. I appreciate your time and energy. I appreciate your truthfulness. I think the lesson I'm suppose to learn here is patience. Patience is the hardest thing to master, bc we want what we see with our eyes to have it in our hands. This is a lot of hurt I'm dealing with, so I guess what I really want is for the hurting to be over. This is why I look for definite time frames. I have been trying to move on, some days I do really good and others I don't. I want to get over him and move on, I really do. I feel like I rather have him in my life as a friend , then not having him in my life at all. It is all in honesty and love. And when it is in both, what could be best here is most definitely DISTANCE. Friendships can be more fulfilling than romance because there are no pressure. Boundaries are the key. IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 08:00 PM The idealism I have of him is that he will be 50 years old this year. I thought, he would have come to terms with his emotions by now. I feel like i'm more experience than him at 32 then he is at 49. So, he was right. when he said? When you're in your prime, you won't want me. IP: Logged
ELoveCherishEndure Knowflake Posts: 138 From: Nyack, New York, USA Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 08:27 PM quote: Originally posted by Virgo36: The idealism I have of him is that he will be 50 years old this year. I thought, he would have come to terms with his emotions by now. I feel like i'm more experience than him at 32 then he is at 49. So, he was right. when he said? When you're in your prime, you won't want me. I say more than likely and in fact not a more than likely but most definitely yes! I think anything started out of the things that are started in lust never stand the test of time, even if they are fated. IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 09:57 PM I agree, but it's like I said before. I have been hurt by a lot of people. Once I feel that you have betrayed me, it's hard for me to forgive you. I carefully select the people who I allow to get close to me. I'm not saying all this was centered on lust because it wasn't. In actuality, he thought me a lot, literally, He was like a mentor, I could talk to him about anything. He was so supportive always pushing me to put my best foot forward. Yes, there was physical attraction, but like you said love sealed the deal. I think I won't want him not because I'm not attracted to him, Its just i think I am worth fighting for. It took me along time, to even get the courage up to tell myself I had feelings for him. I even told him, that I would settle for us just being friends. I think because its easy for me, to just be friends it's harder for him. I say this because in life there is balance. All the aspects point at exactly what he is afraid of, true. But there is a truth between those aspects, my husband and my flame is the same sign. My enthusiasm for my husband went out the door, when he couldn't control his hands. Once again, the feeling of being betrayed causes me to flee. Situations like this create aspects in Neptune, that say I won't be enthused about a relationship. It's past issues in my life, that I need to fix first. I'm focusing on myself now and making myself happy as a woman. I haven't contacted him in over 2 months, I'm proud of myself. It's been one of the hardest things to do. Like a addict that keep relapsing. You have really motivated me. This is the confirmation I needed. My contacting him was never to initiate his emotions, I always felt like I was abandoning him until I realized he turned his back on me and I became bitter. I became obsessed with time frames because I was determined to hurt him, make him feel what I felt. IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 10:36 PM I had high expectations. I expected too much from him. I had this illusion that since was older, he would be more mature, possess the capability of dealing with emotions. This is where I see disappointment. Not in him , but in me because expect everybody to think like me, handle situations like I should. When people don't do as i think they should i don't have the same enthusiasm when it comes to patience. I'm full of illusions. Because of how I want things to be. I'm always wearing rose colored glasses instead of looking at things how they are. With my husband, I think more with my head. This is my first time where I not only thought with my emotions but lead it them too. Elove,it was pleasure. I was finally able to get all of this off my shoulders. I am at peace for the time being. Thanks, much needed. IP: Logged
ELoveCherishEndure Knowflake Posts: 138 From: Nyack, New York, USA Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 10:45 PM quote: Originally posted by Virgo36: I had high expectations. I expected too much from him. I had this illusion that since was older, he would be more mature, possess the capability of dealing with emotions. This is where I see disappointment. Not in him , but in me because expect everybody to think like me, handle situations like I should. When people don't do as i think they should i don't have the same enthusiasm when it comes to patience. I'm full of illusions. Because of how I want things to be. I'm always wearing rose colored glasses instead of looking at things how they are. With my husband, I think more with my head. This is my first time where I not only thought with my emotions but lead it them too. Elove,it was pleasure. I was finally able to get all of this off my shoulders. I am at peace for the time being. Thanks, much needed. I think we all pursue some kind of closure in situations like the one you're about to come out of. Do keep me updated but please do as you say and leave him alone not for him but for YOU and stop being cooped up behind people and being with people who will hide you because trust me,once you became known to him things change because again, that 12th house. Nobody who is willing to cheat now is a good option for someone like who I assume is having a rocky relationship. Much affinity. Elove IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 11:21 PM I will, ELove you have been my sponsor. The one the keeps the addict from relapsing. I did something radical, I changed my number. He doesn't have my new number, I have been tempted to text him just so he will have it, but I'm stubborn so I haven't text him yet. We always pursue what we know we shouldn't. Even though I knew he was married, I still caught feelings. Truthfully, this whole time I have never wanted him to leave her because I'm not ready to leave my husband. I never asked him to choose between me or her. I laugh now, remembering what he use to tell. Nothing will ever happen between us, guess he was right. Then out the blue, he would tell me he loved me. This def goes down on the books of lessons learned. Coming out if this , is only the beginning of break ups to come. According to our synastry, the will be a reunion followed by more break ups and more reunions. I can't. Karma I'm through with you. I have paid my karmic debt, please hand me my receipt,lol. Enough of the heavy. Good night. Your skills are so phenomenal. You were right on point. Never had a reading that resonated so well. What's funny you didn't need his name or initials. IP: Logged
Virgo36 Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Franklin Lakes, NJ Registered: Mar 2013	posted March 19, 2013 11:33 PM I will def keep you updated. I quit cold turkey and now I'm doing this 12 step program. I wanted you to see a reading I got about two and a half months ago. For this reading on how John feels about you, I have chosen to work with the Wheel of the Year Tarot and also pulled a bonus card from the Romance Angels Oracle for further insight and spiritual guidance. 1. His story � What he�s telling you The Fool tells me that his behaviour may be erratic and difficult to read. I'm getting that this whole situation is a 'first' for him and that he's at a loss for how to deal with it. It's making him feel a bit foolish or fills him with fear that others will perceive him as foolish. 2. What he�s really thinking In his mind he can't really see a way forward in terms of developing a relationship with you. He's aware that if he did go down this path, it would have dramatically transformational effect on his whole life and this could be filling him with fear... but with his logic mind, he truly can't perceive how to go about being with you. 3. How he feels about you deep down Interestingly, the 10 of Pentacles here tells me that he feels that you would make his ideal life companion - someone to build a lasting future and legacy with (10 of Pentacles). 4. How he�s walking his talk Unfortunately, fear is definitely getting the better of him at the minute. The 4 of Pentacles here shows me fear of intimacy and again, next to The Fool, the fear of looking foolish in the eyes of others. 5. Outside influences on his walk The Princess of Wands here feels like you. You could gently nudge him and inspire confidence by sending him text messages... This would definitely not be a bad idea if you really do want something to come of this connection. It's like you have to 'unlock' John and help him believe. 6. How he will be walking his talk within 6-8 weeks * * The Wheel here tells me that you should have a lucky break in terms of expanding the relationship with John. But although the Wheel of Fortune represents fate in some ways, this doesn't mean you can rest on your laurels and expect him to suddenly come chasing after you. The previous card is a big clue on success depending on your ability to make him feel wanted. The Romance Angels Oracle card I pulled tells me that pursuing John would be worth it. He's an ideal match for you in so many ways. Now, I know the card says 'This could be the one'... However, there are more than one potential 'ones.' So no need to panic! . Some similarities IP: Logged

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