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Topic: Will he ever forgive me again?
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 23, 2013 05:40 AM
I made a mistake, but he seems so paranoid I don't know if he will ever snap out of it.Will we rebuild our friendship again? his name is "L" my name is "J" IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 23, 2013 01:56 PM
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rhia Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 23, 2013 05:36 PM
I've had a go - I'm a beginner so if what I say doesn't seem right, take it with a pinch of salt! I rephrased your question a little.How does he feel about you? The Tower Queen of Wands Two of Wands (reversed) This is a very fiery combo - I could almost feel how wounded he feels! He sees you as confident, assertive and independent but whatever you said to him came like a bolt out of the blue and really knocked him for six (to use some cliches). He has closed off from you completely and retreated to lick his wounds. I can imagine that at the moment no matter what you have to say he just doesn't want to hear it because it's too fresh in his mind and his ego is still bruised. What can you do to make progress?
Seven of Swords Ten of Swords The Hierophant Another interesting combo! I think this is telling you that you need to face up to him and come clean about exactly how the misunderstanding/ mistake arose - be clear about it and don't assume that he will know that you didn't mean it without being told. This will allow the two of you to put it behind and begin again with a clean slate. I think you need to be really tactful and diplomatic in your approach to putting things right and I would suggest that he probably isn't ready for it yet. Don't race in but bide your time and the opportunity will come - healing takes time and some things can't be rushed. Sometimes no matter how much you want to put things right straight away you just have to wait for the other person to come round! Bottom card: Queen of Swords I think this is just background to the situation - you cut him with your words! I wasn't going to ask whether the two of you will ever make up, because it sounded a bit too fatalistic, but then I changed my mind and asked what the likely outcome would be if you but this ^ into action.
Three of Cups Nine of Cups (reversed) Justice (reversed) This suggests that there is potential for a good friendship in the future but forgiveness is going to be a slow and difficult process. Putting things right will take time and patience. Bottom card: The Moon Again I think that things aren't going to be put right with a click of the fingers and The Moon suggests that there will be a feeling of haziness/ lack of clarity about the situation as you begin to repair your relationship, probably a time where you think he's probably forgiven you but you're not sure, and he thinks he's forgiven you but he's not sure, something like that. One day you might be sure he's forgiven you and then the next he might say something to suggest that he hasn't. That sort of lack of clarity. Each not being sure what the other thinks, and probably not even knowing what you think yourself. Hope this is food for thought at least!
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 23, 2013 07:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by rhia: I've had a go - I'm a beginner so if what I say doesn't seem right, take it with a pinch of salt! I rephrased your question a little.How does he feel about you? The Tower Queen of Wands Two of Wands (reversed) This is a very fiery combo - I could almost feel how wounded he feels! He sees you as confident, assertive and independent but whatever you said to him came like a bolt out of the blue and really knocked him for six (to use some cliches). He has closed off from you completely and retreated to lick his wounds. I can imagine that at the moment no matter what you have to say he just doesn't want to hear it because it's too fresh in his mind and his ego is still bruised. What can you do to make progress?
Seven of Swords Ten of Swords The Hierophant Another interesting combo! I think this is telling you that you need to face up to him and come clean about exactly how the misunderstanding/ mistake arose - be clear about it and don't assume that he will know that you didn't mean it without being told. This will allow the two of you to put it behind and begin again with a clean slate. I think you need to be really tactful and diplomatic in your approach to putting things right and I would suggest that he probably isn't ready for it yet. Don't race in but bide your time and the opportunity will come - healing takes time and some things can't be rushed. Sometimes no matter how much you want to put things right straight away you just have to wait for the other person to come round! Bottom card: Queen of Swords I think this is just background to the situation - you cut him with your words! I wasn't going to ask whether the two of you will ever make up, because it sounded a bit too fatalistic, but then I changed my mind and asked what the likely outcome would be if you but this ^ into action.
Three of Cups Nine of Cups (reversed) Justice (reversed) This suggests that there is potential for a good friendship in the future but forgiveness is going to be a slow and difficult process. Putting things right will take time and patience. Bottom card: The Moon Again I think that things aren't going to be put right with a click of the fingers and The Moon suggests that there will be a feeling of haziness/ lack of clarity about the situation as you begin to repair your relationship, probably a time where you think he's probably forgiven you but you're not sure, and he thinks he's forgiven you but he's not sure, something like that. One day you might be sure he's forgiven you and then the next he might say something to suggest that he hasn't. That sort of lack of clarity. Each not being sure what the other thinks, and probably not even knowing what you think yourself. Hope this is food for thought at least!
This feels very true to me, thank you. You are an excellent reader. Even if you just started. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 23, 2013 07:39 PM
I've got another question, I sent him a long, thoughtful apology then he blocked me and said I was harassing him, that hurt me a lot.I don't know how to wait, maybe for more months? Its only been 4-5. I guess I'll wait 5 more, or even a year. Or just give up. What do you think? IP: Logged |
rhia Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 24, 2013 08:13 AM
OK I've had a go at answering your questions with a few more cards! My tarot cards get interrogated because I need everything spelling out to me What would you gain from trying to put things right between the two of you? Strength Two of Wands (reversed) Ha the first is easy to interpret - I think you will gain inner strength by facing up to him and having faith in trying to put things right. So this speaks of personal development rather than an outcome. Placed next to the Two of Wands (reversed) the combination make me think of redressing the balance,cause and effect, and having the strength to progress when things might not be easy, coming out of the other side stronger etc. I can't help but harken back to the first reading though, where the Two of Wands (reversed) partly described his feelings for you. A recurrence of the same card suggests to me that you will be moving on 'carrying' some of what has gone before, but that is probably to be expected. Forgive but not forget, perhaps. When would be the best time for you to start to approach him? Six of Cups (reversed) The Moon Timing seems to be a woolly art, so I will just say what comes to mine and hope that my cards speak my language I intepret these in two ways. The combination conjure up an image of summer to me and The Moon always makes me thing of Cancer (July). The six on the first card with the The Moon signifying 'month' would also suggest to me June, though there's loads of ways you could interpret the two cards together. This is what feels right to me. So, I would say summer, or slightly more specifically June/ July. It sort of fits with what I felt before, that he isn't ready yet and that would seem a reasonable time scale. My other interpretation of them was less literal. The Six of Cups (reversed) speaks to me strongly of forgiveness and moving on in itself, looking to the future. Combined with the haziness of The Moon I would be inclined to say that there isn't going to be a definite 'right' time but it is more blurry than that. It will be in his own time, whenever he is ready to come round to the idea. Bottom card: The Devil If you don't try and put things right, you will not be free of the situation! The three Major Arcana cards are the ones that shout to me - you will gain inner strength by facing up to him and trying to put things right, there is not going to be a definitive 'right time' because emotions don't work that way, and if you don't try put things right you will remain tied to the situation! I wouldn't take any of this as set in stone and if you strongly feel that there is a 'right time' to approach him again then I would go for it, regardless of when it is. And I think it's always worth trying to put things right! IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 24, 2013 11:33 AM
Thanks Rhia. *hugs* In astrology we have a strong soulmate link aspect, (osiris-isis), but do you think we're soulmates? Honest question -- or is that just too much? I kind of doubt it myself , what do you think Rhia? IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 24, 2013 01:05 PM
Bumping up my posts! ^_^IP: Logged |
rhia Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 24, 2013 02:45 PM
Well, I don't think I really believe in soulmates! I'm undecided at the least. I think it's comforting to think that people move into and out of your life for a reason, but I'm not convinced. I decided to ask for you anyway, because I think that whoever/ whatever is answering my cards seems very insightful! Not that I have any concept of what it might be that is answering as honestly I'm a person of science and I can't get my head around it! Anyway, I asked what the purpose of your relationship was and I pulled these cards, which almost made me laugh out loud because it was so visual: Ten of Swords The Wheel of Fortune Ten of Cups Bottom: The Fool (reversed) I think the purpose of your relationship is definitely to teach you a lesson, whether you call it karma or soulmate or whatever! Three tens too, interesting! What comes up must go down and vice-versa. You can oscillate between the depths of despair and the heights of happiness (how poetic) but none of it is permanent and you just have to learn to ride it. Enjoy the moment or know that things will look up. So no matter how dire things seem it will get better, and unfortunately vice-versa. I take The Fool (reversed) as the trigger to this turn of the wheel - perhaps a foolish slip Don't worry, things will look up! What's done is done and if he's a decent person he will forgive you with time. Perhaps you are meant to teach him about forgiveness IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 24, 2013 04:56 PM
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 24, 2013 04:56 PM
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 24, 2013 04:56 PM
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 24, 2013 05:02 PM
Rhia is cool, I'll do your Synastry chart if you like! lol Perhaps Natal or Composite. I owe you one ^_^ IP: Logged |
rhia Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 24, 2013 06:13 PM
That would be cool, thanks! I'll pop it in another thread.IP: Logged |
beijing07 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Wayne, NJ Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 24, 2013 06:43 PM
@ KarkaQueen I would love if you could offer any feedback on a synastry chart I have posted. Topic "Relationship Potential" I would greatly appreciate it IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 24, 2013 10:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by beijing07: @ KarkaQueen I would love if you could offer any feedback on a synastry chart I have posted. Topic "Relationship Potential" I would greatly appreciate it
Okay xd i got two requests now, just hold on IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 26, 2013 06:39 PM
Rhia, I really miss him. its hard to not contact him XD Ugh!! :/I wonder if he will contact me first when he's ready.. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 26, 2013 06:56 PM
Actually, I wonder if that's even his real name. He actually has a lot of fake names and identities lol. I wonder if he will actually reveal to me his true name..IP: Logged |
beijing07 Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Wayne, NJ Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 26, 2013 07:29 PM
@ KarkaQueen no problem, I'm patient whenever you get the opportunity I would appreciate your feedback and thanksIP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 28, 2013 03:54 AM
beijing07Alright! thanks! Been going throu some... weird sh*t lately o_O LOL Ummm Rhia, he turned out to be a female to male op, well hasnt been operated on but been taking pills. Did you feel a feminine vibe of some sort? o_O Does it sound like it comes from the vibe? IP: Logged |
rhia Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 28, 2013 05:27 AM
Well I bet that was a surprise!!! I can't say I got a particularly strong gender vibe either way! In my head I had him down as male and I didn't think to question it. He sounds like quite a complicated character - perhaps that's why he is slow to forgive. I would go with your heart and if you feel like trying to reconcile again now then don't wait, but be prepared for it to be a bit difficult!IP: Logged |
rhia Knowflake Posts: 49 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted March 28, 2013 06:16 AM
Well I bet that came as a bit of a surprise! I can't say I did get a feminine vibe - I had in my head that he was male and I didn't even think to question it! I guess if he is going through a lot of issue himself that might be why he is slow to forgive you. I would say if your instinct tells you it's the right time to try and reconcile then go for it, just be prepared for it to be difficult! IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 28, 2013 06:43 AM
Hello, Rhia, I did sense a female vibe from the start; but I think its somewhat of lie. I sense male and female energies, like meshed togehter. Strange. I suppose he might be a born female. but i dunno..IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1913 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted April 01, 2013 04:50 AM
She left me. again. Haha. I noticed she hasn't posted on her thing for a week or two that usually means she abanded the thingdo you think shes getting a new start? And is she still as hurt as she was? soz.. Im obsessive XD IP: Logged |