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LionFish
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posted March 25, 2013 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay so first and foremost I am a full believer in your 5th/7th/8th house rulership significance in synastry.

This guy has turned my life upside down more than once and I feel it coming on again.
ME:

Him:
Syn:
Comp:

I feel like I have no control when it comes to him...Like my life will lead me where it will and he's going to be a part of it no matter what. It's starting to become a problem again though...and I'm not sure I can stop it. I've tried to tell him goodbye so many times and every time, I fail miserably.

Is he "the one" for me? I don't know if it's fate, but I do know something was meant between us...I just don't know what anymore. And I feel like my relationship with him is on the verge of wrecking everything I have at home. Even though at this point in time we're just friends..I'm so torn between what I should do and what I want to do. I've never felt more like a Pisces, my heart swimming in two opposite directions..

If you, Lotis, or any one else can offer anything at all... thank you..

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posted March 25, 2013 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lionfish,
I know Exactly what you are going through because I'm going through the SAME thing! Heartache?!! Yep! The first thing that stood out to me is all your angles are on his angles!! Wow! So I haven't personaly had experience with that, BUT I've heard when someone's ASC/ DSC axis is on another's, it's a sign very common in married couples. When all the angles conjunct (your and his are very close)(ASC/DSC and MC/IC) they say marriage is practicaly unavoidable! Plus, his sun, merc, and venus on your ASC... I can't imagine how hard this must be for you. I see his sun, merc and venus are also square your pluto. And your mars sextile his pluto.. Very plutoian like mine! I also see how you both are very plutoian natally so I can see why this is a passionate relationship (friendship . His venus and merc are square your NN, so this is definitely a relationship that was fated where you are to learn lessons from him. And your chiron and saturn square his NN.. Look up these aspects in synastry (any aspects to ones NN are significant. ).

Now what I also see is that neither of you have any planets in each others 7th house. Do you two feel like the other would be marriage material.. especially once the passion and romance starts to wain? I do see your juno is trine his jupiter, which is a marriage aspect, so that's a really good sign!

I do see his venus inconjunct your neptune which show the "rose-colored glasses" he's wearing. Just something to think about. Mars opposite mars will be challenging, but at least they're not square so that's encouraging.

I'm looking for red flags now: ok so the main thing I see is you have A lot of tight, hard aspects to uranus in the composite. Uranus means lightning in the beginning, but can cool off quickly( it is a good aspect for friendship though) plus I see the sun square moon in the composite. You do have some saturn aspects in the composite to ground the uranus but no hard ones, so I wonder if it would be enough to sustain the longevity? Your composite chiron also aspects just about everything! I'd research chiron in the composite. That being said, you also have hard jupiter aspects to everything, which combined with the uranus aspects might be a little too much... I don't know, you should research that as well. Above all, I see the love stellium in your composite 11th...nice!

All that said, what is your GUT feeling telling you? What is the friendship like? Outside of astrology, how much do you have in common? What is the reason for cutting it off? Your commitment at home or something else in your gut in combination with that? Just things to think about..this is definitely a significant relationship for both of you- there's no doubt...meant to teach lessons.

I know you're looking for a definite answer, " do I pull the trigger or not?" I can't answer that but maybe someone sees something I didn't at first glance. Best of luck sweetie- I wish you the very best; no matter what happens...and trust me, I feel your heartache!!

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posted March 25, 2013 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for your kind words tgem

It's the most intense relationship/friendship I've ever been a part of. And when it's good, it's freaking great, but when it's bad... I'm pretty sure we could sell tickets and popcorn to the show lol No matter what happens between us though there's always been this sense of dedication.. Loyalty. Not just on my part, either. It's like he'd never ever do anything to intentionally hurt me. He's told me he'd walk away before that ever happened.

And outside of astrology (he only gave me his birth info because I nagged him for it until he asked his mother what time he was born lol) we have oodles in common We enjoy similar movies, games, T.V. shows, sports (he hates that I don't like baseball but it's sooooooooo boring to watch on T.V.), travel, and friends. He's been part of my friend circle longer than I have, like he was waiting for me to show up or something..

I've never even allowed myself to think about being married to him. Well, not never, but it's been a long time and a lot of heartaches between now and then. I think he would make a wonderful husband, though. If the passion and romance were going to wane I think it would have already..we're going on 14 years of knowing each other, 4 years since we've been uhm, intimate. Every time he looks at me I can FEEL it and I've seen the goosebumps I give him. We have a strict hands-off, no touching (except goodbye hugs) rule because neither one of us is good at self-control when it comes to the other and both of us are in relationships. Lol, when I was single and he was dating this girl, I still felt like he was very much mine and to prove my point I asked for a kiss ("Hey can I get that?" he always knew what I meant ) every time we parted ways. It didn't stop until I started dating someone.

Now, when we're around each other there's so much tension in the air because it's like we're not allowed to do what comes naturally. Even before we ever dated I'd be the one sitting in his lap taking up all his time at social gatherings. The two of us almost completely oblivious to those around us. That's actually how I met his girlfriend...while I was sitting in his lap. Yeah, that went over REALLY well when he introduced her to me as his friend (oops). He's left her so many times and every time he goes back to her I feel like it's because I wasn't ready and waiting to take him back. He's even insinuated it, but since he's already been the cause of me leaving one relationship before, he won't come out and say it. Especially since he LIKES who I'm with now..It's such a freaking mess I wouldn't wish this situation on anyone..

I tried to get Lotis' opinion on this before I think... But with both our 7th house rulers being Uranus, 11th house composite stellium opp uranus might not be so bad? Or maybe it means we're doomed to this on again/off again weird love triangle/square thing we have going on now..SMH

Again, thank you! I'll definitely look up those aspects to the NN you mentioned. I've looked at so many others, asteroids included, I'm not sure how I missed those. Fresh eyes see new ideas though

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posted March 25, 2013 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*double post*

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posted March 27, 2013 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 27, 2013 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@tgem I would really appreciate it if you could take a look at my synastry chart in topic titled Relationship Potential. Thanks, it would mean a lot

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tgem
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posted March 27, 2013 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure, would be happy to

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posted March 27, 2013 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beijing07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ tgem Thank- You so much. The first chart is of a guy, that I'm in love with. I consider him my heart. I think me being too aggressive probably scared him off, he has cease all communication with me. Second synastry chart is of a new guy I met. I like him. The topic is title Relationship Potential Please...What does our synastry say about us. I am really grateful, I look forward to hearing your feedback

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posted March 27, 2013 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lion fish... Maybe it's a convidence but I have a similar situation with a Pisces and I'm a Leo stellium..

It's been very intense and life altering... I will always cherish him...

We are still friends and talk all the time.... But we do have our issues...

I notice your planets are similar to his, except for Venus and mine are similar to ur Leo.... Ironic huh

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posted March 28, 2013 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Lion fish... Maybe it's a convidence but I have a similar situation with a Pisces and I'm a Leo stellium..

It's been very intense and life altering... I will always cherish him...

We are still friends and talk all the time.... But we do have our issues...

I notice your planets are similar to his, except for Venus and mine are similar to ur Leo.... Ironic huh


Are the issues between the two of you related to what other people expect of you (the leo) in particular?

*sigh* if you've been through this I'm so sorry I wouldn't wish the feelings I get from this situation on my worst enemy..

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posted March 28, 2013 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No our issues aren't about other people, but we do have ego issues with each other, but we have respect and don't push each other... When one of us gets upset at the other it's usually cuz of insensitivity and or a misunderstanding.
When that happens we give each other space until the other person is ready to talk...
We haven't had really any major arguments.. We have a good harmony and to much idolizing to let the disagreements go over board...

Yes it's been tough, and very confusing...
But I think I'm understanding what I needed to understand now....
It's been really smooth since I had my emphany so to speak..

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posted March 28, 2013 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why not post the synastry/composite of the guy you're with now? if it's stronger than what you have with Chris then move on... if not, then live your life and go for the guy you really want. your synastry and composite with Chris have all the indicators of marriage/long-term relationship

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posted March 29, 2013 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
why not post the synastry/composite of the guy you're with now? if it's stronger than what you have with Chris then move on... if not, then live your life and go for the guy you really want. your synastry and composite with Chris have all the indicators of marriage/long-term relationship

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I don't know that stronger/weaker is the way to describe it. If anything astrology has brought me to a stalemate of sorts because I can't objectively look at the charts to see how I effect either of them. It's like all my astrological know-how flies out the window and I'm trying to read Greek. My SO now is Chris' astrological opposite. Sun/Merc/Venus/Jupiter stellium in Aquarius on my DSC. I didn't particularly want to make this thread about both of them though.

My focus on Chris is because I think we missed something that was supposed to happen between us because of my own stupid actions. I hurt him and it ended what was happening between us. I'm not even sure what it was that was happening, honestly. We were dating I guess, but never once was the term "relationship" or "we're together" or anything of the sort uttered.. We just were. Like it always had been, except I didn't have to watch him leave to be with somebody else anymore. He cut me off from himself quite literally after the misunderstanding between us..I would have never ever intentionally hurt him and the fact that I did it accidentally has ate at me since the night it happened.

It's like I screwed up fate with free will and now my soul is kicking me in the heart for it..

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posted March 29, 2013 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
No our issues aren't about other people, but we do have ego issues with each other, but we have respect and don't push each other... When one of us gets upset at the other it's usually cuz of insensitivity and or a misunderstanding.
When that happens we give each other space until the other person is ready to talk...
We haven't had really any major arguments.. We have a good harmony and to much idolizing to let the disagreements go over board...

Yes it's been tough, and very confusing...
But I think I'm understanding what I needed to understand now....
It's been really smooth since I had my emphany so to speak..


Most of that sounds exactly like me and my Leo. We are the best of friends, even if it's forbidden (And oh boy is it.) Sometimes I feel like I should just walk away because of the effect I have on his homelife..If his girlfriend found out he saw me on a regular basis she'd probably spontaneously combust on the spot. I used to be the source/topic of 90% of their fighting. He would never have it, though. "She's not going to tell me who I can and can't enjoy being around" was his favorite line any time I ever mentioned me going away.

She has kids, that aren't his, but he loves them, especially the youngest. Every time he's left her that's been the hardest part for him, trying to accept that he wouldn't have that relationship with a little girl who cherishes him. What every Leo wants at their core: To be the loved protector/provider of their domain.

That's what I meant by "what other people expect." The first time this woman lured him back after a break-up it was 6 months after they started dating, she called him to tell him her daughter said she "missed her daddy."
She wasn't even 2 and had barely known him for half the time they spent dating...but that was daddy? Mmmk.. seems unlikely. What I think more likely:
The girl knew his weakness because of his situation with his own daughter (He feels like an awful father) and exploited the fact that she *also* had a blonde haired/blue eyed girl to call him daddy if he'd just come be with her... It makes me want to punch her in the face.
One of the times that he left her, we were laying in his bed talking and he was telling me about her little girl, about how he missed her. And then he asked me why I didn't have a baby. The way he looked at me, the way he said it, it felt more like "Why don't you have a baby for me to love?" He needs the redemption in his own mind. And his relationship with his own daughter is too far gone for him to be the "daddy" that he wants to be. She knows him, and loves him, but they aren't very close.

The more I think about this, the more I dislike his girlfriend and the coniving liar that she is. *sigh*

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