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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5867 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 31, 2013 04:27 PM
I am Mars in ARies, MOon in Sagittarius (which happens to be exactly conjunct my NN and our first meeting chart`s ASC. lol). He is Venus in Aries and Sun in Aries. Oh God so much ARis. As for his thoughts, they are represented by Moon. IP: Logged |
imeanj Knowflake Posts: 403 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 31, 2013 09:50 PM
I agree that you are Mars/Moon and he is Venus/Sun. Moon and Sun being second signifiers. @Tofu mentioned that signifiers need to make aspects before sign change...(i.e. Mars making aspects to Sun or Venus). Though, the moon trines seem possible. In regards to feelings - my understanding was that it has more to do with rulership. For example, when there is mutual reception both have feelings. HOWEVER, I don't like Saturn in the 1st... and I would go with that before the reading. Sorry. Hope that is helpful. Hug! IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 3169 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted April 01, 2013 04:54 AM
Hm I see you like pluto (AC rulers because you ask) and him as venus (DC rulers) Venus and pluto are in square to each other. If your connection to venus/ pluto in your natal chart works out and are in aspect I think it will be you who is the person who have this person in the mind, but if he has the strongest connection to his venus/pluto in his natal I think it will be him.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5867 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 01, 2013 06:14 AM
"@Tofu mentioned that signifiers need to make aspects before sign change...(i.e. Mars making aspects to Sun or Venus)." Yes, and they do. Actually pretty much all of them.Moon of course trines Sun and Venus. Venus conjuncts Mars. " In regards to feelings - my understanding was that it has more to do with rulership." Yes, it does. From my perspecive, Mars is in Aries, in its own sign. I am quite selfcentred right now, and when we last met, that is true. I was feeling quite confident at at one with myself. Mars is in the detriment of Venus, but also in the exaltation of Sun, and actually still in the rays of Sun. (oh and also in the face of Sun, a very minor dignity, but it adds up with the exaltation). What this means is that I am having mixed feelings. I havenīt realy noticed that planets in detriment really show loathing, at least not when it comes to myself, if coupled with positive dignities. But there are mixed feelings, and with my significator in the ray of the Sun, his natural significator, I am a tiny it overwhelmed (by his masculinity especially, as this is what Sunr epresents in a horary chart: the male Mojo. lol) Moon as secondary significator of mine is in the terms of Venus, his significator. Just a minor dignity, but still signifying sympathy.
From his perspective, his main significator AND his "Mojo" are in the sign of my main significator, as Aries is ruled by Mars, and this is me in this case. lol
And those are aspecting each other, pretty much all of them, coupled with nice mutual dignities. Judging from this horary alone it is pretty safe to say that we left quite an impression in each other. "HOWEVER, I don't like Saturn in the 1st... and I would go with that before the reading. Sorry. " For a horary chart it is the ruler of the houses in question that are important and answering the question, and ONLY give informations surrounding the question.
However, I as well would see that Saturn as a subtly secondary influence, which makes sense. It represents how I am once again the one who is holding back, or actually WAS holding back. The aspects of Saturn (inconjuncts) to his significators are separating, which means they are in the past. And that, too, is fitting, as the last time I saw him, a lot has been cleared up for me internally. I got the message I as supposed to get from my Higher Self, so Saturn can turn direct again. lol
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5867 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 01, 2013 06:17 AM
Popcorn,for a horary chart only traditional planets are valid as significators. However, I can see the Plutonic influence, as it reflects a theme or pattern in our charts. "f your connection to venus/ pluto in your natal chart works out and are in aspect I think it will be you who is the person who have this person in the mind, but if he has the strongest connection to his venus/pluto in his natal I think it will be him." Both of us have a Venus-Pluto-square natally (plus Venus in Capricorn); the composite has of course Venus-Pluto-square as well. His Venus-Pluto-square is a bit more strongly intervowen in the synastry and composite chart, as composite Moon falls onto his Venus and composite Mars and NN fall onto his natal Pluto. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Knowflake Posts: 2577 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted April 01, 2013 06:22 AM
Mars conjunct Venus in 5th I'd say yes, but are they applying or separating? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5867 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 01, 2013 06:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmpressMendez: Mars conjunct Venus in 5th I'd say yes, but are they applying or separating?
Applying baby. I just wonder why is he applying to me? *scratches head* IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Knowflake Posts: 2577 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted April 01, 2013 06:51 AM
Woot Because he likes you, duh lol :P jk. I wonder what will happen. For some reason I lost interest in interpreting horaries, hopefully my desire for it will come back again soon :3. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5867 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 01, 2013 06:57 AM
Yes, my interest in them comes and goes as well. This was the first I casted in many months.As to the other thing, we shall see. It should be an exciting journey, no matter where it takes. IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 3169 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted April 01, 2013 07:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Popcorn,for a horary chart only traditional planets are valid as significators. Both of us have a Venus-Pluto-square natally (plus Venus in Capricorn); the composite has of course Venus-Pluto-square as well. His Venus-Pluto-square is a bit more strongly intervowen in the synastry and composite chart, as composite Moon falls onto his Venus and composite Mars and NN fall onto his natal Pluto.
I disagree about significators. I always use AC/DC rulers in an questions of a couple and I feel it works out well.. Your venus-pluto feels major intense..lol will both of you ever forget each other
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5867 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 01, 2013 07:59 AM
Mars IS the (traditional) ruler of Scorpio. There is a debate going on as to only use traditionalr ulers for significators in horary, which most do, or allowing the new ones as well.Personally I have found that the traditional rulers work superbly as main significators, and the transpersonal planets often give added information about the general emotional athmosphere. With Pluto and Uranus tied to them, it is both startling and intense. And it is. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Knowflake Posts: 2577 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted April 01, 2013 08:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Mars IS the (traditional) ruler of Scorpio. There is a debate going on as to only use traditionalr ulers for significators in horary, which most do, or allowing the new ones as well.Personally I have found that the traditional rulers work superbly as main significators, and the transpersonal planets often give added information about the general emotional athmosphere. With Pluto and Uranus tied to them, it is both startling and intense. And it is.
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imeanj Knowflake Posts: 403 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 01, 2013 09:09 AM
I would also closely consider where Mars is though. The aspects are NOT made until after Mars leaves the 5th House...so it's still in Aries, but in the 6th house. @Ceri, you want to tell us something? (wink!) IP: Logged |