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threepoolsoflight
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posted April 14, 2013 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for threepoolsoflight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm experiencing a really difficult relationship (of sorts) with a guy who's married. I'm in a long term relationship too, though I've been struggling with my partner this past year (and I've discussed this topic with him in a "broad brush strokes" sort of way so at least it's out in the open...). Nothing physical has occurred between me and the married guy, but I'm obsessed with him and have fantasies about having sex with him, um, a lot (my moon is in Pisces and his Neptune is conjunct my 12th house sun..AND his venus (which is opposite neptune natally) is conjunct my 5th house mars in aries (opposite uranus natally). Oddly enough, I think his Saturn in opposition to mine is a big part of the draw. He has a good job in a career field that I gave up in order to pursue other interests, and I feel like I haven't lived up to my potential as I approach the midlife crisis point of 40...Being around him reminds me of that, but not in an entirely bad way, because it also motivates me to try harder. The best strategy I've found to deal with all these energies is to write about it, which is also the field I'm trying to break into. Each time we're around each other is completely different and sometimes bizarre. We have limited ability to communicate verbally, so we onbly communicate through body language, gestures, and actions, which are subject to varying interpretations. It's almost like we're scared of each other (I kind of am....I feel really strong emotions and don't want to do anything irreparable).

With his neptune conjucting my sun, I can't form a stable opinion of him...he morphs between two people from my past, one who was a sleazebag who really hurt me, and an ex-boyfriend who I hurt...and then sometimes I idealize him too, even though he is acting questionable behind his wife's back.

So I've worked out a half-fictitious story plot and I'm wondering if it might actually reflect his inner conflicts based on his chart. I know this is highly speculative, but I was just curious about what you guys (who know more about astrology) thought. In real life, his wife died at a young age from a chronic illness. I saw him speak at a 10 yr memorial function and oddly, he did not refer to her by name or mention that she had been his wife. It struck me as really weird, and I couldn't figure out if he was still really wounded from it and was trying to distance himself emotionally b/c he didn't want to show that side of himself (his moon is square his mars). In my story, it turns out that he was having an affair and the wife found out about it just prior to her diagnosis. He never forgave himself because he felt responsible for her illness (Saturn), which, now years later, causes him to seek out women, flirt with them, and break it off suddenly to prove his devotion to his deceased wife. What do you guys think? Do you see any other trends that would reflect a hidden side, other conflicts, etc? I also thought that he saw me as some sort of manifestation of his deceased wife because in the beginning, he wouldn't pay any attention to me when we were around each other, but when I was getting ready to leave he'd come after me or make an effort to say thing ("goodbye" issues). I looked up her birthday and she turned out to be an Aries. I'm not very Aries at all but my mars is in Aries and I'm very Aries in the context that we see each other, so there might be a little something karmic here too. Here are the links to his chart and our synastry


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Randall
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posted April 14, 2013 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome! Moving to Personal Readings.

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IndigoDirae
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posted April 14, 2013 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm seeing a lot of 'just missing the mark'. For example, your Sun and Moon 'almost' conjoining, and the weak Sun-Nep link which I don't give much weight, since it's Neptune.

Honestly, I need to know more about your story and it's themes to know if he even works as a character in it.

At first brush, a double Aries / lunar Virgo can be several things. I'd ultimately be more interested if he were leading a double life with murderous consequences, but, hey. I'm a mystery / thriller writer in the transgressive field.

What else can you tell me?

-AMP

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threepoolsoflight
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posted April 14, 2013 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for threepoolsoflight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi AMP-

I forgot to mention that I don't know the guy's birth time, so his ascendant and the houses are probably wrong. This makes everything harder...ugh

Funny you should mention the murderous theme. I posted a little blurb about him in another forum awhile ago (before some of the stuff I describe below happened), and a guy replied that he sounded exactly like someone in a non-fiction murder story he had read!

The gist of my story is that the main character reads "The Psychopath Test" by Jon Ronson (a good book, by the way) and becomes paranoid that both her boyfriend (a perpetually grumpy radical environmental extremist who admits to drowning stray cats in the bathtub because they kill native birds) and her strange flirtatious married friend (an environmental researcher who studies the same problem that the boyfriend is passionate about) are both psychopaths. In fact, she (aka me) has had two psychopaths in her life, though thankfully, not the murderous type: my father, a gambling addict and embezzler who even swindled a chunk of money from my grandparents (who were really good-hearted, hard working people BTW), and then in college, a mentor who turned out to be a druggy sexual harassing ******* . These experiences have left me perpetually suspicious. (so all of this so far is based on actual experience, but from here on out is not). Meanwhile, there's a third guy in the story who has professional connections with the married guy and knows the main character, and while he *seems* totally normal, he is the real psychopath (and CEO of an evil chemical company). She eventually realizes that her interest in the married guy is due to the fact that she never self-actualized, and after a kiss they exchange goes awry and leads to a huge misunderstanding between them (because they never actually talk to one another...and he was supposed to "dump" her to remain "faithful" to his deceased wife), she realizes that she needs to break with both him and her boyfriend, quit her menial job, and head out on a environmental mission that leads her straight to the real psychopath. The boyfriend and the married guy each pursue her, thinking that she is in trouble with the other one, until his current wife goes after her husband and winds up inadvertently saving us all from the real threat, the psychopath...or something like that. The theme being that the difference between the moral character of people fighting for good versus evil is not always that great, at least on the surface.

So here's what's really strange about the married guy. He sometimes comes across as either aloof or awkward, but occasionally he will launch into a different persona. For example, he, my bf and I participate in an adventure sport. Sometimes I get really excited when the conditions are good and cheer everyone on, including him. He soaks up these positive comments like a sponge, almost comically, like no one has every paid him a compliment before (low self-esteem? narcissist?). Meanwhile, he's by far the most skilled person over 40 at this sport, and very risk-taking/ballsy. Sometimes after I compliment him, he'll launch into "Charlie Harper" mode and start chasing after me a little bit, or staring at me (all in front of my bf) but in a very staged way. I once dated a guy (a Pisces) who used to switch personas like that too, but it was really obvious when he was acting like someone else. He did it to protect his true self, because he was hyper-sensitive and rather melancholy. So I thought that maybe this guy, with his sensitive Virgo moon and tough-guy Aries sun, acts like that to protect his inner self. I also thought he was joking around at first until one day we were together w/o my bf and with only a few other people around, and he began staring at me really intensely. I stopped looking at him b/c I started feeling guilty about his wife, and though he didn't *seem* mad for the rest of the time we were together, he nearly ran me over as he sped out of the parking lot, didn't return my wave or even look at me. Then he brought his wife with him the next time (who is very attractive), got really close to me with her and didn't say a word, just stared at me with no expression whatsoever (I finally said hello to her and tried to act normal...whatever that is). Another time, long after the previous incident, he suggested that we should participate in the sport "tandem" (which is possible) and I didn't really say anything, and he stated very emphatically, "Oh, but [bf] would be jealous!" and I swear to god, he had the most over-the-top evil, bitter expression for a moment...like one of those cartoon characters with the furrowed, frowning brow and clenched-teeth smile...very bizarre...it and made me wonder if he (1) sensed my extreme anger and frustration towards my bf and was acting it out or (2) his real self is the evil Charlie Harper self! or (3) maybe I'm being paranoid and he is just acting like a hormonal teenager?....and then other times we'll joke around and act silly (like kids) and it never gets to a weird state at all...so go figure! It's like he has three separate personalities.

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