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Topic: Hera, Lioness, etc (horary readers)- Will He Be there? Part 2.
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2013 06:00 PM
ok... so, i shed tears for nothing since a major twist has occurred...and, 'we' are getting there, yippee! it is the same conference/event. i think he will be there because there is a connection between mercury and neptune... however, moon and saturn are opposing, thus, when it comes to us seeing one another, it is a 'no.' further explanation in my next post. much help appreciated! thanks! edit: first chart was totally wrong. used data of another horary and wrong chart system.
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imeanj Knowflake Posts: 453 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 16, 2013 07:08 PM
Leo - Sun - Aries - 9th house - Exalted Aquarius - Saturn (Rx) - Scorpio - 3rd house - Peregrine *(he is in his fall in Aries)No aspects - so No - though I am unclear with what your question is. Even with you as Moon there is only a minor aspect to Saturn and it is separating. The only thing that I can see here that might mean a maybe or something that can be useful is that both Pluto and Uranus make Yods to the Moon/Saturn. They could be friends to help. However, along the same lines, I'd question who Neptune was - this person squares you and applying aspects to him. I feel that he may have someone else. (Note: traditionally these planets are not considered.) Also, though there are Venus and Mars aspects they are separating - suggesting that the meeting already happened. Likewise, you would use the primary signifiers here first to answer your question - i.e. Sun and Saturn. Moon/Venus (you), Mars (him) are all secondary here and I would say in this situation simply mean that you are going to continue having feelings for him, but that nothing will come of it in the near future. Sorry to be bad news bears. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Knowflake Posts: 2776 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted April 16, 2013 07:36 PM
Shouldn't one use the 9th or 3rd house for trips/meetings?IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2013 08:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by imeanj:
Sorry to be bad news bears.
thanks for everything. i posted a wrong horary, for another situation..which i already got the answer for anyways.... im going to go ahead and interpret this one. what i was taught was the following: significator of the querent: virgo rises, so we use mercury. significator of the person in question: pisces descends in relation to the 7th house cusp, thus..we use neptune. significator of the conference: aries is ruling the 9th, so we use mars, mars is in aries. significator of the situation in general: moon what one is looking for is a connection between the conference and this person. so, that would be mercury and neptune coming together. mercury is in pisces and neptune is in pisces....connection? he will be there. now, whether we will see each other, that is another thing altogether and i may not do this clearly, but, i shall give it a try. here, we want to see something uniting venus (me) and mars (him) somehow.... so, we look at saturn...moon is opposing saturn. this is not good. so, the answer is...he will be there but, we will not see one another, won't connect, etc. in conclusion, he will be there but in terms of 'us', it is not happening. he doesnt have someone else, btw. so, how did i do?
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2013 08:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by EmpressMendez: Shouldn't one use the 9th or 3rd house for trips/meetings?
9th house is what i was told to use. IP: Logged |
imeanj Knowflake Posts: 453 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 16, 2013 08:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by hikoro:
i posted a wrong horary, for another situation..
Will look again since you changed the horary! But can you refine the question - just so we are clear? HUG! Sidebar: Also, you don't use Neptune in horary... IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2013 08:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by imeanj: Will look again since you changed the horary!
this was the chart that i did soon after i confirmed the date by phone. quote: But can you refine the question - just so we are clear? HUG!
hmmmm...i dont know what to ask, ive read that horary charts are very sensitive. i mean, after i confirmed the date, 10 minutes later, i asked myself, 'i wonder if he will be there' that is the first thing that popped into my mind. im going to the event too, so, obviously, there is that hope that i will see him and he shall see me. something along the lines of whether he will be there and will i see him? as in..will i be able to at least, talk to him even if it is for just 5 minutes? quote: Sidebar: Also, you don't use Neptune in horary...
why is that? i was just following instructions. so, im clueless. thank you. sidebar: is using regiomantus (sp?) crucial in horary? IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Knowflake Posts: 2776 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted April 16, 2013 09:00 PM
Neptune is an outer planet it moves too slow. You replace Neptune with Jupiter in horary. And yes the 9th house for long distance, and 3rd for short trips/communication..IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 5680 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted April 16, 2013 09:20 PM
I think u will see him there, the h9/h3 rulers Venus,mars are conjunct, but also combust... I'm not 100. Percent sure if Venus is combust, but mars is.I think that's saying not a lot of opportunity together, not much will happen. Mercury and Jupiter make no aspects, so again not much will come at the event... Please correct me if I'm wrong.. Your really want to know if a romance/fling will happen at the event?
Keep in mind ur question is specific to the event, that doesn't meant later on or some where else something won't happen... Sorry hon... I don't think much will happen at the event, you will prob see him, maybe have a small chat since Venus,mars are conjunct, but nothing will come of it.. I hope I'm wrong.
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2013 09:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: [B]I think u will see him there, the h9/h3 rulers Venus,mars are conjunct, but also combust... I'm not 100. Percent sure if Venus is combust, but mars is.I think that's saying not a lot of opportunity together, not much will happen. Mercury and Jupiter make no aspects, so again not much will come at the event...
i see, thanks for the interpretation. well, as long as i get my 5-10 minutes. lol! that combust aspect. hmmm... quote: Please correct me if I'm wrong.. Your really want to know if a romance/fling will happen at the event?
not at all. im not interested in a fling at all...or anything too deep at the event. no...that is too much and too soon. i just want the opportunity to see him... at this point, due to many circumstances, the most important thing is seeing him and being able to converse with him, there is a purpose behind all of this. so, it is not wanting to talk to him just for the sake of talking.
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2013 09:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by EmpressMendez: Neptune is an outer planet it moves too slow. You replace Neptune with Jupiter in horary. And yes the 9th house for long distance, and 3rd for short trips/communication..
thank you. learned something new.
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 5680 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted April 16, 2013 09:35 PM
What's the purpose... Maybe that will show in the chart? If u don't mind sharing... Keep in mind I'm a novice, so it's just practice.. Let us know what happens. IP: Logged |
imeanj Knowflake Posts: 453 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 16, 2013 10:00 PM
You = Scorpio - Mercury - 8th House - Pisces Mercury only makes aspects to Venus which would make the question fall in the 3rd House, where Saturn is Rx in the 3rd House. However, it is a minor aspect and separating - i.e. a thing of the past. Venus is in Taurus - Exalted, but Mercury is in Pisces which is Peregrine, so there is no mutual reception. Likewise, there is no transference of light. I am getting no again. Sorry, still bad news bears. (Finally, secondary aspects are all a no go.) Here's a better chart to go by for future reference... http://www.skyscript.co.uk/dig2.html IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2013 10:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: What's the purpose... Maybe that will show in the chart? If u don't mind sharing... Keep in mind I'm a novice, so it's just practice.. Let us know what happens.
it is to give him a small gift..and some words of courage. of course, i will let you know.
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 5680 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted April 16, 2013 10:26 PM
Hummm... I'm not sure what house rules gift...I'm thinking 2 for possessions, but not sure... I'll goggle it..lol IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 5680 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted April 16, 2013 10:34 PM
H5 is the ruler, and h2 would be the secondary. Which is funny, cuz when I asked, if u were asking Abt a romance cuz I was looking at h5.
Saturn rules ur h5, Jupiter is him. Idk.. Saturn has a small applying aspect to Jupiter.. Idk. I'm really not sure... I'm thinking no, cuz its it does apply to moon, but not to mars for action... I'm really don't know.... Maybe someone else can tell... Sorry IP: Logged |
imeanj Knowflake Posts: 453 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 17, 2013 01:19 AM
So the planets you can be here are Mercury or Moon/Venus as secondary signifiers. The only one that makes an applying aspect is Moon which opposes Saturn. Moon and Saturn are applying in 4 counts. So still you will have difficulty. IF he or the answer to the question is to be Saturn the question would have to be - falling in either Capricorn or Aquarius. Therefore, it would need to be a 5 or 6th House question. But regardless of the question, because you never clarified it, I hate to say it but the answer really just feels like I no, but the answer can change 3-6 months down the line.* *If you are unable to clarify what you are asking, you will be unable to get what you want. This is just the way the universe works. So be clear. (I know easier said than done.) Anyhow, here's some more reading on relationship horary. Hope that its helpful for future reference. Hug! http://www.skyscript.co.uk/relationships.html --- FIFTH HOUSE - IS NATURALLY RULED BY THE SIGN OF LEO THE LEO MOTTO IS - "I WILL, THEREFORE I AM" This house rules the heart, spine, sides of the body, upper back. The Fifth House is about creativity. This house also rules dating, playtime/acting, sensual emotions, pleasurable affairs, lovers, parenthood and sexuality. This can include artistic pursuits, hobbies, recreation and children. Other keywords include creative self-expression, love affairs, procreation and children, leisure, games and sports, self-fulfillment, joy and bliss. SIXTH HOUSE - IS NATURALLY RULED BY THE SIGN OF VIRGO THE VIRGO MOTTO IS - "I ANALYZE, THEREFORE I AM"
This house rules the solar plexus (midriff), bowels, colon, intestines and abdomen. The Sixth House is about day to day life. This house also rules daily life, health, hygiene, food, work, employees, service, skills, servants, small animals, clothing and sickness. It is about the service you give and your habits. Other keywords include: daily routine, working environment, skills, pets, animals and service. FROM:http://www.drstandley.com/astrologycharts_twelvehouses.shtml#story5 IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 17, 2013 10:09 AM
@lionessthank you, thank you... you've always been a good sport about this. @imeanj so, no, he will not be there, no to the meeting, no to everything else. a huge NO. alas...time to turn the chapter. IP: Logged |
imeanj Knowflake Posts: 453 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 17, 2013 10:50 AM
Sorry & HUG!(My advice: Go to the meeting anyways and just tell us what happens. You never know.) IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 17, 2013 07:01 PM
@imeanjyep..im still going. the conference won't be until next month. it is so pathetic, i made this beautiful creative gift.... i cant get rid of it. too attached to my creativity. i guess i should blame myself, for following readers...or for putting my hopes up way too much? because i had both readers and a prof. astrologer telling me that this person and i..were meant to be. i mean, the connection i have with this individual is out of this world, it is not a twin flame/soul mate (ive no desire to sound like a cliche)...it is just a lot of 'supernatural' stuff that has happened in terms of this person. oh well...i guess that is what happens when you become too idealistic. should have stuck to my practical taurus moon. im going to have to analyze all of this...if maybe, all of this is meant to give me a different message than what i previously thought.
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imeanj Knowflake Posts: 453 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 17, 2013 07:42 PM
Perhaps you could strike a balance between being grounded in reality but also still being able to be optimistic and work with hope? I dunno, I feel that if you feel so strongly about someone yet are unable to and have made little contact with him directly - it is a bit odd to be this into him - seems one-sided at this point. Sorry, to be harsh or overly frank. I do feel that this is no fault of yours, society encourages this type of idealism. There are a number of eclipses coming up. Taurus/Scorpio and I think the last round of Sag/Gemini. Maybe there's another lesson in here somewhere. Regardless, HUG and I wish you luck - fingers crossed! IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 508 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 17, 2013 07:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by imeanj: Perhaps you could strike a balance between being grounded in reality but also still being able to be optimistic and work with hope?
ah...hope....my scorpio planets are being cynical, my saggie and pisces jupiter...optimistic. quote: I dunno, I feel that if you feel so strongly about someone yet are unable to and have made little contact with him directly - it is a bit odd to be this into him - seems one-sided at this point. Sorry, to be harsh or overly frank. I do feel that this is no fault of yours, society encourages this type of idealism.
i agree with you. and...this is the reason i dont even like to describe this in a romantic manner..often times, he is like an old friend, a brother...seriously. as to the idealism, i dreamt with him before i met him, and, although im very much in tune to preternatural things...there is just something about this situation that is 'different' and 'bizarre'. and...the coincidences and synchronization still goes on. now, i have to find if there is a reason behind this, or...if this is just my confirmation bias. quote: There are a number of eclipses coming up. Taurus/Scorpio and I think the last round of Sag/Gemini. Maybe there's another lesson in here somewhere.
when did these eclipses take place? if you dont mind sharing? im a taurus moon, scorpio sun, saturn in saggie. he is a gemini, libra moon, saturn in scorpio. quote: Regardless, HUG and I wish you luck - fingers crossed!
thanks sweets, by the way, do you read first meeting charts? because i have the date for the first time we met, maybe, this chart already showed that nothing would happen in the future. it is something i would like to explore.
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imeanj Knowflake Posts: 453 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 17, 2013 08:53 PM
http://www.cafeastrology.com/2013eclipsescharts.html http://www.astrologyzone.com/forecasts/eclipse.html And sorry don't do first meeting charts. Hug! IP: Logged |
imeanj Knowflake Posts: 453 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 17, 2013 09:37 PM
Some more http://darkstarastrology.com/lunar-eclipse-april-2013/ IP: Logged | |