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asclibrasagsun
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posted April 18, 2013 12:10 PM
  
My question is When will I have a stable love relationship?
I am moon asc, obviously super emotional over the whole matter, this is very fitting...
I just cannot be alone anymore I just want to be with someone I love and someone who loves me back. I do not want anymore heartbreak. I do want an older partner though, I would prefer someone much much older. Please help, what is the overall theme here for my question in the chart? I'm asking this similar question again because a lot of significant events have happened and there were a lot of changes that I would never have expected. IP: Logged |
AshSkye
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posted April 18, 2013 03:40 PM
You're the Moon, your future partner is Saturn, there is an applying aspect, a square by an orb of eight so there will be someone in eight weeks or months since we have fixed signs here, however they are in angular houses so it may be weeks, eight somethings anyway!Think back to what happened either two weeks/months/years ago, anything significant? You have a separating square with Mars, you did mention this older gentlemen friend a few times on this forum, maybe something to do with him. What I will say that when this relationship comes up, it won't be easy at first, there will be obstacles in place and hurdles before. This may be to do with him as Saturn is retrograde. Maybe he may have some emotional problems
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asclibrasagsun
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posted April 18, 2013 06:17 PM
AshSkye thanks, I will also pull up the other horary you helped me interpret a few days ago. It was basically the same question and the answer was almost the same, the significators were the same as well.
Here it is: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/006702.html
2 years ago we met! 2 weeks ago he began the divorce/separation process from his wife!
Can you please tell me if from the horary it is evident that he is going through a divorce? Also, is he involved with another woman at the moment (not the wife, someone else, she is his age)? He is acting very strange around me, he is being cold and distant... IP: Logged |
AshSkye
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posted April 18, 2013 07:01 PM
Well the separating aspect to Mars may indicate that Mars might just be him, in which case Mars is conjunct Sun which means there is someone there, however I may just be wrong and it is separating which indicates that it's just finished so maybe
In regards to this I don't know if it's for him, the last horary with him was applying but again an opposition which I've read to be the "when you get it, you won't really want it" aspect, however I don't know how the applying opposition has gone down with people in regards to experienceLast one it indicated a time of three, fixed sign, fixed house which would indicate possibly months for this to come to fruition, this one it gives us eight weeks (I think) which makes it two months
This may be that you might meet someone else or that your paths have changed and it'll be sooner than expected, since you didn't mention him in the question, this new relationship may be with anyone. The distance thing is indicated by his main significator being retrograde in the other chart, it usually indicates that the party is distant, there will be delays on their side and so forth.
The horary won't give you a name but it does indicate at least some sort of development, I think you will be in a relationship within the next few months, if it's with him, we'll see, or it may be that after you've begun a relationship, he may come back as remember the opposition indicates the positive outcome but unwanted at the time!
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asclibrasagsun
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posted April 18, 2013 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by AshSkye:
Well the separating aspect to Mars may indicate that Mars might just be him, in which case Mars is conjunct Sun which means there is someone there, however I may just be wrong and it is separating which indicates that it's just finished so maybe
In regards to this I don't know if it's for him, the last horary with him was applying but again an opposition which I've read to be the "when you get it, you won't really want it" aspect, however I don't know how the applying opposition has gone down with people in regards to experienceLast one it indicated a time of three, fixed sign, fixed house which would indicate possibly months for this to come to fruition, this one it gives us eight weeks (I think) which makes it two months
This may be that you might meet someone else or that your paths have changed and it'll be sooner than expected, since you didn't mention him in the question, this new relationship may be with anyone. The distance thing is indicated by his main significator being retrograde in the other chart, it usually indicates that the party is distant, there will be delays on their side and so forth.
The horary won't give you a name but it does indicate at least some sort of development, I think you will be in a relationship within the next few months, if it's with him, we'll see, or it may be that after you've begun a relationship, he may come back as remember the opposition indicates the positive outcome but unwanted at the time!
I understand, and of course even though I posed the question about being in a relationship "simply".... I really meant him you know, because he is the one that I want...
In the horary before these two, this was when I asked before the divorce, I was Venus and he was Mars, and it looked like Sun was going to intercept... which really scared me.
When I found out that he was divorcing, I really thought things had changed because this was a very significant event you know, especially with me already being in love with him for two years, and I never thought that he would divorce ever. So I did the new horary, which totally makes sense to me because it is as if the situation has been turned upside down. Honestly, AshSkye, I do not have anyone else I would be in a relationship with, there is no one around with whom I could possibly start a relationship... so do you think this confirms that it would probably be him? Does the chart indicate him traveling? He is set to go to his home country soon. 8 weeks would be around July, I may go abroad as well, I just have not made up by mind yet. What do you think? Is there some travel indicated for me? Another thing, why won't he accept my friend request on a social networking website? It is very odd to me... IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted April 18, 2013 07:19 PM
Ashskye, you've helped me so much in the past, would you mind looking at a horary chart for me? I would love to give you a palm reading in return.IP: Logged |
AshSkye
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posted April 18, 2013 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
I understand, and of course even though I posed the question about being in a relationship "simply".... I really meant him you know, because he is the one that I want...
In the horary before these two, this was when I asked before the divorce, I was Venus and he was Mars, and it looked like Sun was going to intercept... which really scared me.
When I found out that he was divorcing, I really thought things had changed because this was a very significant event you know, especially with me already being in love with him for two years, and I never thought that he would divorce ever. So I did the new horary, which totally makes sense to me because it is as if the situation has been turned upside down.Honestly, AshSkye, I do not have anyone else I would be in a relationship with, there is no one around with whom I could possibly start a relationship... so do you think this confirms that it would probably be him? Does the chart indicate him traveling? He is set to go to his home country soon. 8 weeks would be around July, I may go abroad as well, I just have not made up by mind yet. What do you think? Is there some travel indicated for me? Another thing, why won't he accept my friend request on a social networking website? It is very odd to me...
He'sin the fourth house of home and roots which does indicate what you're talking about, he will be going home
In terms of you, you're in your own house in that horary which in that chart doesn't indicate anything
This may indicate that this whole thing may happen while he's in his home country, I'd say wait it out, even though the relationship with his ex wife may have phased out ages before the divorce there's still a lot of adjusting for him to do, both horaries indicate a Saturn (he's an older guy right? totally Saturn) retrograde which to me sounds very much like him at the moment
Anytime between two to three months this could happen and judging by the speed of both signification, you'll be the one to initiate it, although it will take time and hurdles. For you, I don't think you'll be going abroad for different reasons, that's just my intuition talking
For him, just give him time at the moment, his mind is probably elsewhere so just play it cool for the mean time! IP: Logged |
AshSkye
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posted April 18, 2013 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by whitewitch111:
Ashskye, you've helped me so much in the past, would you mind looking at a horary chart for me? I would love to give you a palm reading in return.
Sure! Is it the one that you had trouble posting? IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted April 18, 2013 07:41 PM
yes it is, I don't know what's going on.IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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posted April 18, 2013 07:55 PM
Yes he is a lot older, indeed.Thanks AshSkye, I have been hesitant to go abroad because I think if I go and what will I do there then? Should I ask a separate question on travel? I will give him time of course. And yes it sounds so obvious that I would be the one to initiate it.
AshSkye this was the op and pre-divorce question and chart that I posted:
1.) This question is if anything sexual (a physical relationship) will develop between myself and another individual.
From what I see in this chart, I am Venus significator (libra asc) and he is Mars significator (dc in Aries)...both planets are in a conjunction applying by 9. However, apparently my judgment as an astrologer is restricted because Saturn is in the first house... and also apparently it brings delays, however it is important to note that Spica the lucky star is right on my ascendant, the delay is to my benefit then? What is the meaning of the True Node next to Saturn.... and what will come of this matter???? My Venus is in his 11th house... and yes Saturn which is in my 1st house is in his 7th... not good either right (by the way he is not single)? But Mars and Saturn make a separating aspect, does this indicate a rupture of their relationship? I already asked an horary question on whether he knows of my feelings for him and the answer was that no he does not, but that I would let him know through flirting (according to the other horary) Another things, Mars is in Aries, Venus is in Pisces moving into Aries
http://postimg.org/image/ry1oq11sj/ See how I emphasized there that he was not single, I did not know that he was divorcing yet.
He never voiced it to me either, but I saw it online and I saw a marriage dissolution/separation agreement on his comp. when we were together, maybe he was "trying" to show this to me instead of telling me verbally. What do you think of this chart? And Look at that Saturn in the 1st house bringing delays!!! IP: Logged |
AshSkye
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posted April 18, 2013 08:03 PM
In terms of travel, if we look at the chart you posted in the first place and look at the ninth house ruler, Neptune (I use modern rulers as well), we can see that Saturn, him, is applying by four, which indicates that it may be four something before he travels, so four weeks or four months
In terms of you, there's no connection and in terms of my intuition, I don't see travel for you in the near future, not now anywayIP: Logged |
AshSkye
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posted April 18, 2013 08:07 PM
In terms of the next question if anything sexual will develop between you and the other person, it seems that someone is in the way of this, emotionally, I think it may be your gentleman friend, I feel as if you will get your chance but you are getting intercepted by the sun (which again stands for an older middle aged gentleman) ruler of 11th house of hopes and dreams as well as friends
Maybe your feelings for this man might get in the way of this, however Venus will eventually conjunct Mars by Nine, so from whenever you asked this question, it'll be offered in nine weeks or maybe months, by when your situation may have changed, Moon is afflicted which isn't really a good sign, Saturn in first house retrograde which I've read means a negative end to the situation, this is the ruler of fourth which usually indicates the end of the matter, however this is very old school astrology and it may just indicate delaysEDIT: I'm not sure if this question is about the gentleman friend of yours we've discussed, if it is, it definitely signifies delays, by his divorce definitely, it serves as a barrier to get across IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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posted April 18, 2013 08:12 PM
Okay about the travel I have not made any plans yet, but last year it was the same thing and then I literally bought my air ticket 2 weeks before going I did not expect it from myself at all, it happened so fast. So is there going to be a separation or are we getting together? The sun is intercepting but I didn't understand what you meant by this, I will have feelings for someone else? EDIT: yes the question was about my older gentleman, always! : ) IP: Logged |
AshSkye
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posted April 18, 2013 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
Okay about the travel I have not made any plans yet, but last year it was the same thing and then I literally bought my air ticket 2 weeks before going I did not expect it from myself at all, it happened so fast. So is there going to be a separation or are we getting together? The sun is intercepting but I didn't understand what you meant by this, I will have feelings for someone else? EDIT: yes the question was about my older gentleman, always! : )
You will get together but there will be delays, the sun may just be the divorce getting in the way, judging by the other two charts, it's certain you will get together but it'll take a lot of time and effort and hurdles to come across IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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posted April 18, 2013 08:31 PM
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You will get together but there will be delays, the sun may just be the divorce getting in the way, judging by the other two charts, it's certain you will get together but it'll take a lot of time and effort and hurdles to come across
Yes AshSkye and you did an horary one time for me if we would resolve our dispute and it came true so let us hope for the best. The delays and hurdles are natural. There will also be a lot of brain picking and tension, I can already tell. "Difficult to come across", yes it shall be, because transitioning from this strict authoritarian relationship where we are who we are to a romantic one would really be quite a change. He would no longer be who he is to me in the present moment but he would be a romantic partner.
So there is no one else except for the divorce in the picture? I am the only lady? IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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posted April 18, 2013 08:35 PM
ASH by the way here is my natal with transits and progressions: Here is the thing that stands out to me the most, the progressed venus conjunct natal saturn... What do you think? You see anything else that sort of matches up with what we were discussing? Once again, thank you for your time. IP: Logged |
AshSkye
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posted April 18, 2013 08:52 PM
Oooh definitely some transit action happening from the last year
Pluto Conjuncts Uranus last year Uranus rules the fifth house of romance which indicates changes in the love sector, although it is an outer planet it still counts in my experience
The major one that I've seen crop up with people is Neptune square Mars which rules the Seventh house, this is the popular transit for people falling in love with unobtainable men, such as married men and such, this can also put you under confusion and sometimes even delusions, this did stop so there is a move on from this, no more contacts with Mars for now which is a good point as you can move on with your relationships, no further lessons to be learnt on that, however, Venus will square both ASC and DSC so this may cause problems with relationships over 2014 and 15.IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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posted April 18, 2013 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by AshSkye:
Oooh definitely some transit action happening from the last year
Pluto Conjuncts Uranus last year Uranus rules the fifth house of romance which indicates changes in the love sector, although it is an outer planet it still counts in my experience
The major one that I've seen crop up with people is Neptune square Mars which rules the Seventh house, this is the popular transit for people falling in love with unobtainable men, such as married men and such, this can also put you under confusion and sometimes even delusions, this did stop so there is a move on from this, no more contacts with Mars for now which is a good point as you can move on with your relationships, no further lessons to be learnt on that, however, Venus will square both ASC and DSC so this may cause problems with relationships over 2014 and 15.
I see, so what do you think about the horaries now in conjunction with my natal? You think it still will happen even with the delays? IP: Logged | |
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