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Topic: Would anyone be willing to help me understTarot a 5 card spread? Im new and learning!
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Gabby
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posted April 29, 2013 06:48 PM
  
Question--Should i hang on to this relationship?1. past---justice card 2. present---the hermit card 3. hidden / unconcious influences--the tower card 4. advice---the empress card 5. outcome--the lovers card IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 29, 2013 06:51 PM
Ive been reading the interps and its kind of confusing?IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 29, 2013 06:52 PM
i would have thought the lovers card was a positive outcome, but it seems its more of just a decision that needs to be made...am i correct? If so, that doesnt really answer anything...hmmm?IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted April 29, 2013 10:23 PM
It seems you need to join two part to become one. What is making you uncomfortable? Is it outside influences or is this person breaking down all your belief systems of what you thought was true? Your advice is to be accepting and loving. Be like mother nature loving all her children as chaotic and gross as some can be (insects ewwww)because in the grand scheme there is a balance to be achieved. It feels like you're fighting against something, but what? Are you afraid of losing yourself in someone? Of having no control? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 29, 2013 11:18 PM
I guess just tired of waiting...sometimes it feels like im here only to heal and im not getting my needs met....i just wish i could just drop everything and find a relationship that was coming full circle.
I do feel im supposed to be here, like theres something special hes waking up to, but hes so stubborn to see his own value, his wake up process is so slow!
I seem to be the one whos doing all the support, i do see progress and the patience i have to maintain is teaching me alot, but im tired! I guess love is going to have to override this time?IP: Logged |
Fleurdelis
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posted April 29, 2013 11:28 PM
Hermit shows you've been alone in this for a long while and you are seriously contemplating a breakup. The outcome to me seems to say the choice is yours. You can continue to nurture him but you're going to feel more and more alone. U might need to do what is best for you.IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 29, 2013 11:30 PM
His energy alone has opened me up to new things, he hasnt had to do any work....just being around him makes me open up to myself...and want to heal!
I would have hoped he would also grow, and he has...but hes a taurus sun, taurus merc, taurus saturn, taurus venus...all in his 4th house, saturn is sitting 2 degrees from IC..gemini mars, saggy moon, saggy nep.Im a virgo moon, saggy sun, saggy merc,saggy nep, libra venus, gemini mars.
i guess i'm much more open to change, with all my mutable planets, i crave it and he with all his fixed planets fights it every step of the way. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 29, 2013 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by Fleurdelis:
Hermit shows you've been alone in this for a long while and you are seriously contemplating a breakup. The outcome to me seems to say the choice is yours. You can continue to nurture him but you're going to feel more and more alone. U might need to do what is best for you.
I feel like its best for me to just let it go....i am tired of being alone!
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Fleurdelis
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posted April 30, 2013 12:46 AM
It seems to me also the empress is saying that you are standing on your own two feet, not only nurturing him but yourself? You mentioned he helped you open a side to yourself, could be the "empress", the giver who is strong on her own; you don't know how much you are capable of. I do believe once you've learnt enough from him you will move on.. It seems like you're coming to the end of a long situation of self sufficiency. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 30, 2013 03:14 AM
I have spent too many years waiting...but not wasted! Waiting has made me stop fluttering here and there...instead just stay focused do my best and hold on. Lonely as its been, its also been a focused time and yes doing it without help proved to myself I can do it! And ive done an amazing job to, the empress??? I ask only becuz somehow ive done a much better than any man has ever done for me...and I have 3 children! My kids are so kind, loving and happy...i feel they are my reward for all the years of sacrifice to make sure they were always protected and had better than I had!
I guess i thought in the end he, this guy would be ready and healthy enough to have faught through his fears....so I waited...happily, didn't mind being patient i wanted him to be ready in his own time and not be pushed...as he worked through his stuff...but it just seems we will never be on the same page. Like im always going to be far enough ahead to always feel im alone...at one time i do believe he was much farther ahead of me...but now, hes sat idle and i kicked into high speed...so im doubting I'll ever really feel we get each other or feel needs are being met. I think we just move at such different paces.IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 30, 2013 03:26 AM
He grew up in a relatively decent family/childhood.....me, not so much! So I think I was way far behind when we met and he inspired me. But im realizing he was just at the place he always lived emotionally...head above water but still not able to understand his fears enough to fight them.
He's still there....and his inspiration gave me the courage to jump off the cliff emotionally and see if I could fly, but he didnt jump with me, lol....hes still standing there going,"i knew you could do it, your so strong and amazing"as he's still standing on the edge peering over going....good for her....but im not doing that, i wouldn't make it! LolIP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 30, 2013 11:18 AM
I don't think its me that's being pressured by fear of losing myself and being opened up to things in myself that im scared of....but that does describe him perfectly!
its the reason he stays so far away emotionally....he just told me how much I help him, I make him feel relaxed n safe and nobody does that...he even said he hates that he needs me and gets scared ill leave and never come back...but he does nothing to make sure I don't go away.
So I think the best thing is to just go away!IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted April 30, 2013 05:38 PM
The way I read it was you approached a situation from a logical fair standpoint and my feeling is that this logical view is still influencing you. The present is fairly obvious, you feel alone or that you are alone on this particular path. Your decision in the past led you to it. Underlying all this is a feeling of destruction/illumination, the old falling away to the new. Perhaps a mental breakdown to help push you forward and make changes you need. The advice here as I see it is to love and accept unconditionally. I guess it could be seen as self-love as well. The outcome as the lovers seems to go full circle to the Justice card in making a decision. It's hard to advise someone (especially not knowing them) to leave a relationship (unless it's abusive. But going back to the tower and lovers is this choice to either give in or let go. It sounds from what you've said that you want to let go. I still feel however there is a part of you that is afraid of being that close to someone. Maybe I'm wrong *shrugs* There may be more work to be done between the two of you.. From my point of you the lovers is hard to break away from because it's a binding tie, it's a decision that will alter you. Have you spoken to him about how you feel? It sounds to me like he may have moon/saturn or moon/uranus afflictions. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted April 30, 2013 08:34 PM
Looking at the overall spread, the answer is no dont hang on.. Let go becauseyou can do much better and focus on yourself (Empress). You can do much better  . tower is the only card that isn't blocked. You guys will end up breaking upIP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 30, 2013 11:43 PM
Thank you for your help so much i really appreciate all the responses...its given me so much to think about, i do believe i deserve so much more! Ive finally started to want to be taken care of like i take care of everyone...its taken me a long time to get here and im tired of wasting the energy on something that doesnt respect me the way this relationship doesnt respect my needs!IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 30, 2013 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by littlecloud:
The way I read it was you approached a situation from a logical fair standpoint and my feeling is that this logical view is still influencing you. The present is fairly obvious, you feel alone or that you are alone on this particular path. Your decision in the past led you to it. Underlying all this is a feeling of destruction/illumination, the old falling away to the new. Perhaps a mental breakdown to help push you forward and make changes you need. The advice here as I see it is to love and accept unconditionally. I guess it could be seen as self-love as well. The outcome as the lovers seems to go full circle to the Justice card in making a decision. It's hard to advise someone (especially not knowing them) to leave a relationship (unless it's abusive. But going back to the tower and lovers is this choice to either give in or let go. It sounds from what you've said that you want to let go. I still feel however there is a part of you that is afraid of being that close to someone. Maybe I'm wrong *shrugs* There may be more work to be done between the two of you.. From my point of you the lovers is hard to break away from because it's a binding tie, it's a decision that will alter you. Have you spoken to him about how you feel? It sounds to me like he may have moon/saturn or moon/uranus afflictions.
Ive spoken to him about it in the past and all it does is make him distant...
Maybe it is me that has an issue with devoting myself to someone, im afraid of being rolled over and caged in. My pluto on my Ac seems to attract controlling people who find me a challenge they want to conquer. Like they want to control me and overpower me to feel powerful...all i want is some peace!
Sometimes i do wonder if ive become a bit scared of people getting close to me through the years...im tired of the fight just to be me! I dont want to be controlled, i just want to be loved!
AC Libra@7.05
Pluto libra@11.05
Venus libra@18
Ugh, this aspect is enough to kill someone, its too much of a constant battle!!
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