posted May 20, 2013 02:52 AM            

querent is saturn
man is sun
fiancee is venus
situation is moon

although, ive seen other folks using jupiter

one wants to see a connection between the sun and venus. there isnt any at this moment. however, sun will progress to gemini, so, doesnt that imply a future union because the sun will be aspecting venus at some point?

moon is in virgo, i think you want to see moon aspecting venus, at this moment, it is a square. but, venus is in gemini, in the 3rd house (mercury), and moon is in virgo, ruled by mercury too... isnt that a connection that may mean yes?
what do you guys think?

here is the chart:

posted May 20, 2013 04:50 AM            

Otherwise I am unclear and confused by the rest of the comments. Who is asking the question? Why is fiance Venus? And unsure about the Jupiter business.

posted May 20, 2013 06:36 AM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
They will get married, Sun and Moon trine. Moon is exalted in triplicity and Sun is in Moon's exaltation in Taurus.

Otherwise I am unclear and confused by the rest of the comments. Who is asking the question? Why is fiance Venus? And unsure about the Jupiter business.

Hope this helps - hug!

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thanks. i am asking the question. does that change anything?

as to fiance venus...and the jupiter business, i followed another model, and some folks used that.
thanks again.

posted May 20, 2013 07:35 AM            

These questions are useful in assigning the significators. I personally do not go by "if the other person is a man, he's the Sun". I also do not go by "the other person is represented by the 7H ruler, regardless of his relationship with the querent". To me, that is too vague and deprives you of the true essence of interpreting horary. If he's a friend, use 11H ruler. If he's a crush, use 5H. If he's your brother, use 3H.

BTW, whomever asked the question is seriously confused and might not have all the details or facts known. Neptune is intercepted in the 1st. I also dislike Moon's interception in the 7th. Someone is meddling in someone else's affairs and has no business doing so.

posted May 20, 2013 08:43 AM            

i'll always care for him, so he is a crush, 5 house.
Hera, as to moon's interception and the rest,...i dont know what to say about that because we dont communicate at all, so, it is def. not i who is being nosy, that is, if you mean that someone is trying to get between them.

i found out about the engagement, which is shocking because they had broken up, and, she was (dont know if this continues) emotionally abusive toward him.
he started looking like a corpse after getting with her, and..it was found out that he started abusing a particular substance...
after they broke up, he started looking healthy again...
now, i was shown a picture of them together, and, he is looking like a ghost again...
some friends say that she is the one supplying him, or, maybe this is his way to cope...because for sure, she is not using it. when he was with her, he always looked jittery, afraid...with the head down.
anyways. just giving you some background as to how pathetic this is.

when you mention not having all the details or facts known. i do 'feel' as if something is not
making sense...i dont know, im getting this via gossip...i like to think they are not engaged.

posted May 20, 2013 08:51 AM            

and, she is a cancer moon....the transit may indicate building a nest, home...

posted May 20, 2013 10:28 AM            

However, moon before reaching sun, squares jupiter, the ruler of the house of marriage and end of matters in horary. Reception is bad and both planets are strong being angular. Sun, too enters gemini, where jupiter is in detriment. Now this is what i'm not sure of. Interestingly, jupiter again is under mercury. So we reach square 1.

posted May 20, 2013 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by depth:
Sun, him, is about to change signs which means something in his life is going to soon change.
It is entering gemini with mercury as it's dispositor.
Moon, which also represents the wife (and a fiance is a to be wife) too is disposited by mercury.
Mercury, which is the relationship itself is very strong being domicile and almost angular, is applying to venus which again says yes. Moon's last aspect is a trine to sun, him. Mixed reception, strong angular planet above the earth and i have seen this giving yes.

However, moon before reaching sun, squares jupiter, the ruler of the house of marriage and end of matters in horary. Reception is bad and both planets are strong being angular. Sun, too enters gemini, where jupiter is in detriment. Now this is what i'm not sure of. Interestingly, jupiter again is under mercury. So we reach square 1.

They could get married after all and if we count jupiter, it won't come easy.

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posted May 20, 2013 07:16 PM            

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Originally posted by depth:
There will be obstacles with that square
More so, because moon is in jupiter's fall and both planets - strong enough to act against each other. Moon is obviously stronger than jupiter being essentially dignified but is weakened because of the interception. It is difficult to make the marriage happen without effort. Moon already in jupiter's fall and squaring jupiter and sun about to enter jupiter's detriment can destroy the prospects of marriage. The only saving grace is the mercury/venus conjunction.

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