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Twirl
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posted June 03, 2013 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Can someone pull a few cards for me? Can't read for myself. I'll return the favour of course.
Question: was applying here a good move?
Thanks in advance!

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hobbit
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posted June 03, 2013 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hobbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not that experienced - so anyone else reading this is welcome to pull some cards too.

I got:

The Hermit
8 Wands
7 wands

Yes - is my gut feeling. I always associate the hermit with self-study, preparation and reflection. The 7 of wands says you may be having self-doubt but you will come out on top.

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posted June 03, 2013 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Twirl

I used Lenormand

storks + garden + letter + ring + book

overall yes, if it leads to anything it will lead to new social circles, much communication, ring+ letter signifies a contract or an offer. the book i'm less sure about, is this opportunity likely to furnish a lot of knowledge? is it something education-related?

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posted June 03, 2013 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Hobbit! Appreciated.
It doesn't look bad with all the fire (wands cards). Still can't say much about it, because I immediately apply personal stuff onto the cards, making it inaccurate, lol.

What is your question? I'll sit down to read in a few hours

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posted June 03, 2013 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:
Hi Twirl

I used Lenormand

storks + garden + letter + ring + book

overall yes, if it leads to anything it will lead to new social circles, much communication, will be long-standing. the book i'm less sure about, is this opportunity likely to furnish a lot of knowledge? is it something education-related?


Excellent andstuff! Thank you
Makes sense with the book and communicating. And I should bring across knowledge (that is how I saw The Hermit in hobbits cards also)

Please let me know your question also

Btw: I looked at vintage decks. Did you see the remake of the book of Thoth? (not the one from Crowley). Here is the link http://www.llewellyn.com/product.php?ean=9780738704104

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posted June 03, 2013 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Twirl:
Excellent andstuff! Thank you
Makes sense with the book and communicating. And I should bring across knowledge (that is how I saw The Hermit in hobbits cards also)

Please let me know your question also

Btw: I looked at vintage decks. Did you see the remake of the book of Thoth? (not the one from Crowley).


I added the new bit: letter+ring=contract/offer/written agreement

No, I don't think I have seen that one Is it on aeclectic at all?

Yes, I do have a question if you don't mind. Should I try to get myself to England to get an insane full-time job that will kill the artist in me or should I just keep low key trying to make art? Whenever's good and thank you in advance, I'm feeling lucky this opportunity arose

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posted June 03, 2013 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just copied the link for you in the first message. Here it is: http://www.llewellyn.com/product.php?ean=9780738704104

I will look into your question soon
On a personal level I'm very pro-artists and creativity, but I'll take this conviction out when I look in your cards

Thanks for the extra info on the cards. I will keep you updated on that too

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posted June 03, 2013 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hobbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks positive Twirl - I don't think there's anything to fear - at best you may well learn something (hence the hermit). Keep me posted!

If you have time, I had an interview today. What will the outcome be esp. with respect to the salary, which I'm quietly hoping they will increase from what they advertised.

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posted June 03, 2013 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Hobbit,

I looked into the cards for you. I think you can conclude the interview went rather well. Did they already state they quite like to have you for the job?
For the outcome I received the 2 swords + emperor, so I’m expecting they will offer you a contract. I’m not sure it will be exactly the kind of offer you want money wise though.
As an extra on the job offer I also received The Chariot for you.

For the money situation: I’m not under the impression this is a bad paid job at all, because it will seemingly bring you a nice amount of money and enough to live on and you will feel content on a financial level.

Now the cards for if they will offer you more money (the amount you probably brought up/asked for): I am under the impression that at current moment they will not. I’m not sure why that is, I have the feeling that the people who can decide on that are either not there at the moment or they just do not want to look into it at this point in time. A certain ‘take it or leave it’-attitude behind the scenes. If you’ll push that, I think it can be a deal breaker.
I’m expecting them (if I am correct and you will get the offer) to bring up the salary topic and say something along the lines that a raise/more money might be possible once you have been longer into the job, because they would like to see what you can do first. If they are happy, more money is possible. The initial: ‘let’s first see how it goes now, right?’

I hope this resonates with you. Please keep me updated also on how it evolves.
Something else: when I drew the card for the money I saw the number 8. I have no clue what this means and just disregarded it, because I don’t put my cards down like this (and did not take it into consideration, because I did not understand), but if it does mean anything to you I would love to hear.


@andstuff: I’ll have to do my shopping now and return later for your reading.

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posted June 03, 2013 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 03, 2013 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hobbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting - thank you - all very accurate - this was all my impression too. They seemed very keen today to take me on so I will keep you posted about an offer and the salary

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posted June 03, 2013 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hobbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ps - if you don't mind answering - what cards did you pull for the money query

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posted June 03, 2013 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please do
For your financial gain from taking this job I drew queen pents.

For the specific money question (will they offer more money) 4 swords showed up as a block (here also the 8, more of the infinite 8 showed before my internal eye). As a clarifier I received 2 cups reversed.
In addition I drew the Magician.

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posted June 03, 2013 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@andstuff: it will be tomorrow. Bit tired now and I want to take the time for your reading.

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posted June 04, 2013 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:

Yes, I do have a question if you don't mind. Should I try to get myself to England to get an insane full-time job that will kill the artist in me or should I just keep low key trying to make art?

Hi andstuff,

I sat down for your cards.

First impression: knight of pentacles showed reversed to me (popped out of the deck). I took this as a significant card. Probably how you feel at the moment: not building towards anything sustainable in real life and feeling rather unbalanced about where you are actually going.

Then I put down a spread for you asking the question: Should andstuff try to go to England and work in a full-time job there?
For your current position I received the knight of swords. There seems to be a certain/drive conviction that action is needed right now & in this moment. You want to get somewhere & you want it now. You are doing this in a rather impulsive way though. It’s not that well thought through.
In the (rather recent) past this started as an idea that would possibly solve all! And you have gotten driven and convinced about this idea being the solution you are looking for (and given you that direction that you want so much. Please realise that it is a direction you are graving, not the particular work you are supposed to be doing). To sum it up: It’s like you got this idea in ‘a that’s it, that could be a solution’-kind of way and then got fixed on it.

I also feel that you are in an extreme hurry. Things are not evolving quick enough for you and now you want to make a wild move to get (make!) things moving. You are just not sure where everything is going at the moment and you are unsure if you invested in the right direction. It feels like you have the feeling you just cannot wait any longer.

For the potency of this idea (going to England and work in this job) I do feel that if you want this, it can absolutely be done. You will get there and probably work in a job that will enable you to live well on a material level (house, well fed, clothes, etc). (If you do want to pursuit this plan, the cards advice you for alteration so your creativity will find a way out of you also).

However, if I look into the future position in regards to this question I see the 5 of pentacles. You will not feel happy with this decision. You are going to feel you left out an important part of yourself and will experience ‘poverty’ on the personal needs/well-being level.
I do feel greatly that this plan only comes from a need to supply yourself on a material level and having a goal/direction. It emerged from a feeling of 'non balance'. There are basically no loving feelings involved in this idea at all. Perhaps just the thought of England that suits you on some level, but that seems to be it.

Overall impression: If you want to pursuit this path, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind you would be able to manifest it. However, you will be locking an important part of yourself out which will make you unhappy. There is this distinct feeling that you currently feel very undirected in life and just don’t know where you should be going. That’s the core of this situation and your current plans.

For the arts: It is a misconception to think you will be able to dismiss them and ‘kill the artist’ in you for I saw this is part of who you are. This doesn’t mean you will be full-time busy with being an artist, but it is something that belongs to your basic way of expression. It will show up in your life on and of, because it truly expresses your core being. So even if you would decide: no! I will not do it anymore it will always come back to you.

Now there also seems to be a ‘secret option’ 3: the cards try to point out that the decisions you are playing with are not either/or situations. I see a possible mixture of the two, but you seem unwilling to take (or look) at that option. It will be able to offer you more stability/worldly goods though, but it (for now) isn’t exactly what you envision for yourself (on an emotional fulfilling level). Does this make sense to you/ring a bell?
You are still rather young, right? So don’t worry too much and realise there really isn’t much pressure to know everything in the here and now straight away. You don’t necessarily have to put out lights around the path (like airplanes when they are landing – if this makes sense) to know exactly where you are going, because where would the adventure be in that? Perhaps if you realise that, it will give you some peace of mind.

Hope this helped you and it resonates. Would love to hear your feedback.


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posted June 05, 2013 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hobbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got the job Twirl, not sure about salary yet.

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posted June 05, 2013 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh excellent Hobbit! Congratulations!
Thanks for the update. I'm curious about the salary also. Did you tell them what amount you were looking for?
Love to hear when you find out

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posted June 05, 2013 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hobbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I did Twirl, the salary would be adequate. But low, it needs to move up otherwise I will take it and probably move again (I didn't tell them that).

I asked for a very reasonable slight raise with a justification.

So we'll see how they take it now

I pulled cards to ask if they may agree and got

knight of wands
queen swords
knight of pents

Maybe I'm projecting, the decision is out of my hands now anyway

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posted June 05, 2013 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I ask: did you actually 'lower' the initial salary you had in mind?

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posted June 05, 2013 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hobbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked to increase the initial package they offered by a reasonable amount

But here's how it is as an example. Figures are made up -

They are offering 6
I had 10 in mind, and could get 10 if I moved cities
I asked for 8 today which I think is reasonable

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posted June 06, 2013 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hobbit:
I asked to increase the initial package they offered by a reasonable amount

But here's how it is as an example. Figures are made up -

They are offering 6
I had 10 in mind, and could get 10 if I moved cities
I asked for 8 today which I think is reasonable


Let's see how this works out I'm still expecting they might add some on top (because of the queen of pents - she is content financially), just not the whole 9 yards. If not, I'll seriously re-study your cards

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posted June 06, 2013 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hobbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the reading Twirl.

Final update: Got 8 - what I asked for - If I work hard, can go to 12-13 as there is a possibility.

You were definitely spot on - queen of pents seems an accurate depiction - especially since I am a capricorn!

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posted June 06, 2013 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Hobbit

Excellent! Good to hear! Thanks for the update Did they say that to you? That you can go up to the 12-13 if they like what you do?

-edit: just read figures were made up-

Update on mine: I seem to be able to start on my (part-time) job on Monday. So your gut feeling and cards of andstuff as well were very correct

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posted June 06, 2013 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hobbit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, if I achieve certain targets, I can get commission.

Well done Twirl - part time jobs are hard to come by, so it's quite an achievement! It was difficult for me to write in depth, but I did have a strong feeling Congratulations!

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