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chattyfishy
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posted June 11, 2013 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chattyfishy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! I have a question regarding the weight of synastry vs composite in a relationship. My boyfriend and I have a pretty harmonious synastry (with obviously some hard aspects as well, like my venus opposes his mars for example), but overall it seems pretty nice. Communication is there, we understand each other emotionally, conflict is resolved quickly, etc, etc. However, when I do a composite chart it indicates that our relationship will be very challenging in terms of egos and differing view points (which I am ok with because I think this is something you can work around and also if you always agreed you would eventually lose interest). But, one of the major recurring themes in the composite indicates that we idealize each other and not be very realistic about our relationships (which we kind of are not). If we were to get past the unrealistic part (something we are actively working towards and I can explain further if requested) how likely would it be that the composite would hold true? Is the composite just a representation of what could come to be if we are not cognizant of the way we perceive each other and/or is it just a representation of how outsiders view our relationship?

Me (female):
Sun - Pisces
Moon - Gemini
Mercury - Aquarius
Mars - Libra
Venus - Capricorn
Jupiter - Scorpio
Saturn - Libra
Uranus - Sagittarius
Neptune - Sagittarius
Pluto - Libra
Ascendant - Capricorn

Him:
Sun - Pisces
Moon - Aquarius
Mercury - Pisces
Venus - Pisces
Mars - Cancer
Jupiter - Gemini
Saturn - Leo
Uranus - Scorpio
Neptune - Sagittarius
Pluto - Libra
Ascendant - Aries


I think astrology is an interesting tool to understand where each other are coming from and I know that is is not the end all be all, but am just very curious about the composite chart and how much that would end up affecting our relationship. Any insight is appreciated!

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Randall
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posted June 11, 2013 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome! Moving to Personal Readings.

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chattyfishy
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posted June 11, 2013 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chattyfishy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, thanks for moving this. I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to post here because I wasn't sharing a chart. I wouldn't mind posting our synastry and composite for better clarity, but I do not see an option for attachment. Is that a privilege gained through seniority? I have been a lurker on this site for many years (you guys come up a lot on google searches). Thanks!

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Randall
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posted June 11, 2013 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If chart or chart details, it goes here. Basically, if the questions are more personalized.

HOW TO GET YOUR CHART

1. Go to www.astro.com . You can create a free account or enter your birth data as a guest; however, creating an account will allow you to save your information – great for trying the different charts both for yourself and for others in your life. If you don’t know the exact time of your birth, do your best to find out – it *is* important.

2. Go to “Free Horoscopes” and then to “Extended Chart Selection.”

3. “Natal Chart Wheel” is the default, but you will need to go to “House System” (under “Options” use the drop-down to change to “equal”).

4. Click on “Click here to show the Chart,” then click on the chart which will appear.

5. Right-click and save the chart to your desktop.

HOW TO UPLOAD YOUR CHART

1. Create a free account at www.photobucket.com .

2. Select “Upload Now” which will bring up “Select Photos and Videos.”

3. Navigate to your desktop and select.

4. On right, click “Save and continue to my album.”

5. When you hover the mouse pointer over the chart, you will see that a box appears with a few options. If you need to edit out your name or anything else you don’t feel comfortable sharing on the boards, “edit” is in the top band of options. Select “edit” which opens your chart and provides editing options. Go to the tab “Decorate,” and you will see a number of icons, one of which is an eraser. Erase what you need to, and click “Replace original.”

6. Saving should take you to a new screen where you can see your chart and to the right, a bank of options to “Share this photo.” Click on the IMG code, which will flash and let you know that you’ve copied the link.

7. Go to your thread, open a new post and paste your link.

8. Don’t move or delete your chart from Photobucket, because the link only goes to where the chart was saved!

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chattyfishy
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posted June 11, 2013 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chattyfishy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your help! I have an astro.com account and some charts saved on my hard drive so I will just load them into photo bucket. Below are our charts if you or anyone has any interest Thank you!!!!

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starmoon
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posted June 11, 2013 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you’ll just take my opinions for what they are – I’m still learning and studying as I go. I’m going to guess that you’re quite beautiful – you have your natal venus almost exact conjunct your ASC., which usually indicates a beautiful face. So, your guy is likely very drawn to your physical appearance and that pisces/feminine sun you have, since it does conjunct his own sun (by about 5 or 6 degrees). However, the rest of his planets in Pisces are not close enough to your sun for close conjunctions. He has several important natal planets housed in the 12th, which is rather challenging for synastry and relationships – unless the other partner has a few planets there too, or similar elements to the partner. So, lets say you had a water moon or venus… it’d work a bit better for understanding him and his emotions. And a 12th house venus appears in the composite with several oppositions. 12th house stuff is ‘hidden’- the emotions and energies that are housed there can be expressed ‘wrong’ or not at all, depending upon the mood of the person. And since Pisces is a water element your guy is going to be moody and distant often, and swimming in emotional stuff that you won’t ‘get.’ He even has his mars in a water sign – you have your mars in air, so fighting/disagreements, planning/taking initiative – these are going to be challenging, as you both approach things very differently. Differences can be overcome and you said you were aware of the differences, but you have to hope that your partner will keep making an effort when those difficulties remain. You do have some nice synastry house overlays – his moon in your 1st and your mars and Saturn in his 7th. But your venus, mercury and asc. are in his 11th house of friendship – so perhaps (eventually) you’ll be viewed as a close friend rather than his great love? Natally, you have moon opposite Uranus and he has moon opposite Saturn; these are very challenging natal placements. These placements generally indicate that someone is not emotionally connected to their inner core; they often vacillate between wanting a close connection to someone and then wanting independence and to be free of the partner and commitment. You both have this energy. The composite is filled with oppositions, including to the venus (which is in the 12th). I can see why you guys were drawn together and it might be a good relationship for a while, but imho I don’t see this as forever. The composite chart is meant to represent how the couple may end up being viewed by others, and how they might eventually come to feel about one another/act as a couple. It’s based on the natal charts, which form the syanstry chart, so, just my opinion, but if the synastry is unfavorable I don’t know how a couple would even get to the composite aspect. To me, it’s hypothetical and doesn’t hold much weight, but for others I know it does. just how i see it :-)

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chattyfishy
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posted June 11, 2013 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chattyfishy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
I hope you’ll just take my opinions for what they are – I’m still learning and studying as I go. I’m going to guess that you’re quite beautiful – you have your natal venus almost exact conjunct your ASC., which usually indicates a beautiful face. So, your guy is likely very drawn to your physical appearance and that pisces/feminine sun you have, since it does conjunct his own sun (by about 5 or 6 degrees). However, the rest of his planets in Pisces are not close enough to your sun for close conjunctions. He has several important natal planets housed in the 12th, which is rather challenging for synastry and relationships – unless the other partner has a few planets there too, or similar elements to the partner. So, lets say you had a water moon or venus… it’d work a bit better for understanding him and his emotions. And a 12th house venus appears in the composite with several oppositions. 12th house stuff is ‘hidden’- the emotions and energies that are housed there can be expressed ‘wrong’ or not at all, depending upon the mood of the person. And since Pisces is a water element your guy is going to be moody and distant often, and swimming in emotional stuff that you won’t ‘get.’ He even has his mars in a water sign – you have your mars in air, so fighting/disagreements, planning/taking initiative – these are going to be challenging, as you both approach things very differently. Differences can be overcome and you said you were aware of the differences, but you have to hope that your partner will keep making an effort when those difficulties remain. You do have some nice synastry house overlays – his moon in your 1st and your mars and Saturn in his 7th. But your venus, mercury and asc. are in his 11th house of friendship – so perhaps (eventually) you’ll be viewed as a close friend rather than his great love? Natally, you have moon opposite Uranus and he has moon opposite Saturn; these are very challenging natal placements. These placements generally indicate that someone is not emotionally connected to their inner core; they often vacillate between wanting a close connection to someone and then wanting independence and to be free of the partner and commitment. You both have this energy. The composite is filled with oppositions, including to the venus (which is in the 12th). I can see why you guys were drawn together and it might be a good relationship for a while, but imho I don’t see this as forever. The composite chart is meant to represent how the couple may end up being viewed by others, and how they might eventually come to feel about one another/act as a couple. It’s based on the natal charts, which form the syanstry chart, so, just my opinion, but if the synastry is unfavorable I don’t know how a couple would even get to the composite aspect. To me, it’s hypothetical and doesn’t hold much weight, but for others I know it does. just how i see it :-)

Thanks for your reply. I do appreciate any insight even if it isn't what I would want to hear. I have an extremely independent chart and nature - I know that I have a constant inner struggle between wanting my independence and being close with someone. I can't stand a clingy man but I go nuts when I can't pin someone down. It's definitely something I have been dealing with for as long as I can remember!

Yes, the 12th house stuff does worry me. But I hope that perhaps my Mercury can activate his Moon (both in Aqua) to make him feel comfortable about opening up to me more. We had a brief conversation today about something very personal to him and he went into it and then changed the subject. I know he has had a lot of loss in his life (mother and sister) so he carries that around.

He does something to me where I can actually picture a future and children with him. I am not the kind of woman that dreams of babies, it really has to be because I can picture a life with someone. My last serious relationship was 3 years ago and we dated for 3 years. He was a Cancer Sun with a Capricorn Moon and Scorpio Moon.. talk about secretive.. that was like pulling teeth. I think I am just attracted to a more elusive kind of man (no matter how different they are, because these two are quite different when it comes to outward personality).

And thank you for compliment I joke and say that my face is my money maker (worked in sales for quite some time). He also does tell me how beautiful I am and how lucky he is.. but in a sincere and not over the top kind of way (I can't stand when people are gushy and lay it on thick).

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chattyfishy
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posted June 12, 2013 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chattyfishy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that I believe the 12th house Venus oppositions in the composite represent our current situation. We met going on 7 months ago while I was over in London (I live in NY). Since then we have gone back and forth every month (him coming here more) to see each other. We are now at a point where one of us has to move and it is something I am seriously considering because 1) I want to be with him and 2) I wouldn't mind living in Europe for a few years. He may have a better chance of securing a Visa than I would (it's just easier for a foreigner to get a visa in the US than vice versa), but he has some family issues making it difficult for hiim to just up and leave at the moment, but it's something he is beginning to consider because I've applied for over 20 jobs and was rejected from all because of the visa situation (I've gotten a few responses but they always end at the Visa question). If I'm lucky my job would transfer me.. which I'm waiting for the best opportunity to inquire about something like that. That's basically why I asked about the composite and how much weight it holds. If we get past this major obstruction then how much does all of the 12th house oppositions really hold true? I interpret the composite as how others view our relationship and how it may be unrealistic. It is a little bit out there, but the fact that we have this connection from so far away is intense. I live in NYC and I meet men every day (attractive, educated, great careers) but nothing can distract me from him.

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starmoon
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posted June 12, 2013 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took a look at everything again after reading your entry. you might want to research this more (or hope for more responses here) but I did see that his Uranus sign falls into your 9th house in synastry, and that Uranus appears again in the 9th house composite. that would definitely explain your interest in going abroad to be with him. 9th house placements generally inspire travel/love with a foreigner/interest in other cultures/etc. so it's something that is indicated in the synastry and composite

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chattyfishy
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posted June 13, 2013 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chattyfishy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmoon:
I took a look at everything again after reading your entry. you might want to research this more (or hope for more responses here) but I did see that his Uranus sign falls into your 9th house in synastry, and that Uranus appears again in the 9th house composite. that would definitely explain your interest in going abroad to be with him. 9th house placements generally inspire travel/love with a foreigner/interest in other cultures/etc. so it's something that is indicated in the synastry and composite

Now that you mention it I see it too. I am going to look into that. Do you think that could change the entire dynamic of the composite chart? We actually talked about it last night and I was really happy that he was open minded enough to listen to my astrology stuff and why I think it's an interesting tool to understand yourself, others and how you affect each other.

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chattyfishy
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posted June 13, 2013 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chattyfishy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't found much regarding my wanting to move to be with him but I've read that I could be fascinated and drawn to other cultures (which I am). Also to be noted, he has Uranus in his 7th house, which I think explains his attraction to me. For one, I am foreign to him and I also have my mercury in Aquarius. He often tells me I am very intriguing and he's still trying to figure out how I sucked him in from across an ocean. We also have Uranus trine Venus in our synastry, which explains our ability to give space and trust each other. No one understands how this works for us. My father is an Aquarius sun along with his moon and mercury, so maybe I associate masculinity with aquarian traits? Hmmm!

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