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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all
Sorry this is my first post on such a dilemma, this is the reason for joining. I showed an 'astrologer' the folowing charts. She told me some things that frightened me very much and warned me to stay away.
The story is Ive known this guy as a friend for 3 years, I am atracted to him, but the astrologer warned me it would be 'dangerous' to take it further into a r'ship. She went into detail of a list of bad things but there is no way I could write it here.
Please someone tell me what she said isn't true!!!
I am now doubting our friendship. (I am the Aquarian, he, the scorpio)
Our Synastry here:

our composite here:

Please someone of any 'proper' knowledge please help me!!

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SDragon
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posted August 06, 2013 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are quite a few complicated aspects and not as much easy ones. The attraction is definitely due to Pluto touching venus, mars, sun and moon.

Without trying to scare you more, I will say that the relationship would be easier if both partners were already past their 30's with some life experience and lessons behind them. If you're in your early 20's, and the compulsion is strong, it may be a karmic relationship.

Not every relationship is all hugs and roses and sometimes the most rewarding are the ones with drama and struggle, even if they don't last.

Not sure if that helped or not.

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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has, very much!
He is 56, I am 43. He has been through 2 divorces, I, have yet to marry

What is the worst aspect? Is it dangerous?

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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I will say that the relationship would be easier if both partners were already past their 30's with some life experience and lessons behind them"

why would life experience help please??

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Ami Anne
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posted August 06, 2013 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that neither person can clearly see the other. These seems like lots and lots of illusions on both sides. Does that fit?

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Ami Anne
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posted August 06, 2013 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you know how to add the asteroids Nessus, Dejanira and the fixed star Algol, I could give you a better idea

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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I think that neither person can clearly see the other. These seems like lots and lots of illusions on both sides. Does that fit?"

I think I show my 'best' side but all women do with their make up etc.. that would only be the illusion my side

The astrologer did say 'hes not all he seems' Hmm maybe he has a dark side?? Hmmm

Im not sure how to gain other aspects that you mentioned.. sorry

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SDragon
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posted August 06, 2013 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fluffybumkins:
"I will say that the relationship would be easier if both partners were already past their 30's with some life experience and lessons behind them"

why would life experience help please??


Oh, nothing spectacular. Just the adage that you need to know yourself before you can truly know another and whether they're right for you.

So life experience helps with that, but the Moon-Neptune contacts definitely add to the possible 'not really seeing each other' as Ami says.

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meyray
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posted August 06, 2013 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are some points that might console you:

1. Never take astrology as something written in stone. Don’t obsess over synastry. These things are just guides that help us. What will happen depends solely on your decisions and actions and nothing and no one can change or influence that.

2. Everything depends on the people involved. All relationships have a good and bad side. The way these aspects play out is entirely up to how you two handle them. You mentioned you were 43 and he was 56. This means that you are both adults with good heads on your shoulders. If you are both mature, patient and intelligent individuals it will be much easier to deal and resolve these issues. Two irrational and hormone-ridden teenagers with the same synastry would be a completely different story from two grownups.

3. At first glance this interplay of aspects makes me think of a lot of illusions, obsession and manipulation. You two need to be very honest, open and patient with each other. Communication is king and this applies to all relationships.

4. Everything is as complicated and dramatic as you make it – in life in general. You could give it a shot – if you have the emotional stamina to make it work that would be great. If not – let it go. It’s as simple as that. It has as much meaning as you put in it. You could let fear and negative emotions rule you or you can take it in stride.

5. What you do and what happens to you is almost ALWAYS up to your free will and your decisions. Nothing can take the responsibility away from you – not astrology and not anything else. It’s a harsh truth but is still alas truth.

Objectivity, rationality and calmness are always needed no matter what you do. Think about it. Carefully consider the outcomes and make the decision that is best for you. Always remember the last part – think of yourself first. Always ask yourself “How do I feel about this?”, “How will this affect me?”. A little ego-centricism is always needed. You don’t owe anyone anything.

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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you ALL I can now breathe a regular breath!
XXXXX
OK .. Meyray THANK YOU for writing so much to me. ALL points through 1 - 5 apply
I admit I am a little OCD about this guy, so much so thats what inspired me to see an astrologer, because I wanted to see if it was a 'safe bet' thinking of his marriage failings (even though both WERE NOT his fault) and I have proof
Maybe I shouldn't have used predictions and trusted my 'feelers'
We communicate VERY well, on a platonic plane, and attraction is too much to handle.

I will be very careful. I dont think he is too eager, taking into consideration his love history

Maybe one romantic date, maybe that won't harm.
I admit I have never been so sexually attracted to someone in my LIFE! Since day one, and ive kept it to myself for 3 years! I would really miss him if I never saw him again

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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P.s. I was told of past violent aspects and huge rows that could be 'physical'

I thought astrologists were NEVER supposed to scare a client that way!!

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Randall
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posted August 06, 2013 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome! Moving this to Personal Readings.

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Yesyenyes
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posted August 06, 2013 02:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some of the houses and planets are interestingly placed in he natal charts.
Do note that
1/ Astrology is always true, but astrologers may or may not
2/ I practice vedic astrology and one of the principle is to help the person showing the way and not scaring the person, ofcourse all FREE and never should be for money

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quote:
Originally posted by fluffybumkins:
P.s. I was told of past violent aspects and huge rows that could be 'physical'

I thought astrologists were NEVER supposed to scare a client that way!!


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Twirl
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posted August 06, 2013 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by meyray:
Here are some points that might console you:

1. Never take astrology as something written in stone. Don’t obsess over synastry. These things are just guides that help us. What will happen depends solely on your decisions and actions and nothing and no one can change or influence that.

2. Everything depends on the people involved. All relationships have a good and bad side. The way these aspects play out is entirely up to how you two handle them. You mentioned you were 43 and he was 56. This means that you are both adults with good heads on your shoulders. If you are both mature, patient and intelligent individuals it will be much easier to deal and resolve these issues. Two irrational and hormone-ridden teenagers with the same synastry would be a completely different story from two grownups.

3. At first glance this interplay of aspects makes me think of a lot of illusions, obsession and manipulation. You two need to be very honest, open and patient with each other. Communication is king and this applies to all relationships.

4. Everything is as complicated and dramatic as you make it – in life in general. You could give it a shot – if you have the emotional stamina to make it work that would be great. If not – let it go. It’s as simple as that. It has as much meaning as you put in it. You could let fear and negative emotions rule you or you can take it in stride.

5. What you do and what happens to you is almost ALWAYS up to your free will and your decisions. Nothing can take the responsibility away from you – not astrology and not anything else. It’s a harsh truth but is still alas truth.

Objectivity, rationality and calmness are always needed no matter what you do. Think about it. Carefully consider the outcomes and make the decision that is best for you. Always remember the last part – think of yourself first. Always ask yourself “How do I feel about this?”, “How will this affect me?”. A little ego-centricism is always needed. You don’t owe anyone anything.


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Ami Anne
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posted August 06, 2013 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have a chart reading with IQ, if I were in your situation. His banner should be on here. To me, I would take what IQ said to the bank.
If it were me and IQ told me to leave, I would.
The price of the reading( and it is reasonable) is well worth your piece of mind imo.
I wish the very, very best for you, Friend.

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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne, what a lovely person you are and indeed everyone else

I would like to take your suggestion
to take it further with advice from IQ
As a novice Im not sure how to contact on here

I really am such a loving person, and give SO much love, I wouldn't like to think he is a hooded claw character.

Love and light to you all

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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Some of the houses and planets are interestingly placed in the natal charts."

what does that signify?
I dont think I know any astrologer who reads for 'free' :/

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zarea
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posted August 06, 2013 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zarea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello fluffybumkins,

I won't comment on the astrology here as I'm not qualified to make judgement on something that is very important to you.
I agree with what everyone else says, especially the list that was posted regarding principles in astrology.
I have to say though that I'm midway between telling people the truth (without necessarily scaring them) versus glossing everything with a nice pink brush
In any case, since he has been in 2 relationships that ended in divorce, I would investigate these relationships more than anything. I know you said that it wasn't his fault but usually with divorces or break up of relationships, it's everyone's fault. What i mean is that relationships reveal some deeply layered patterns in us that we have to deal with or resolve or be aware of. Don't take his words on why the relationships failed or not, ask around. I'm not saying he's lying to you or anything. It's great that you've known him for three years but I would take the astrologer's comment that "he's not what he seems" seriously, as you have. My experience is that sometimes we think we know people, but we don't. Maybe he's someone else in his very close, romantic, marital relationship that he hasn't revealed to you, not because he's a psychopath or anything, but just because that's who he is.
Just my two cents. I hope that I don't get you worried or anything as I'm not commenting on the charts but just a bit of wisdom here, if I may say.

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Twirl
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posted August 06, 2013 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If you know how to add the asteroids Nessus, Dejanira and the fixed star Algol, I could give you a better idea


Hi Fluffy

I don't know much about astrology, but read cards. Can I ask you if you two have actually discussed a relationship? I think adding these asteroids as Ami suggested is a very good idea.
Also, because what the others see in your chart I see reflected back in the cards. I do not feel this man is always the nicest of people and it would be wise to be a bit careful.

Wish you luck!

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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello zarea
Thank you. Please be assured I have a wise mind on these old shoulders, Whilst I feel a little sad that a relationship is not advisable (astrology or not his track record in reality isn't great) words are very comforting and make me happy
Hey twirl thank you for replying. No, we have not discussed anything romantic, we haven't even said we fancy each other! I have had tarot readings and the Emperor, many swords deck (especially the card of a man in bed with head in hands?? 5 of swords??) Which I was told means 'despair'

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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The astrologist looked at his natal and said 5 words
selfish, manipulative, possessive, secretive, and sly

BUT she could have come up with that out of the sky as a lot of Scorpios have this trait maybe ?

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posted August 06, 2013 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have venus-mars and venus-pluto oppositions? did i read that right..?

if so that indicates intense attraction but not always healthy?

aqua and scorp alone as sun signs can be horribly challenging, squared and all that?

hmmm the astrologer could be onto something

i would be careful

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zarea
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posted August 06, 2013 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zarea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi Fluffybumkins,

Why don't you put just his chart with the asteroids that Ami suggested. Usually for synastry, it's best to start with the individual charts. And it's easier to read the individual chart. I'm interested for learning purposes in what others might read from the chart.

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Originally posted by fluffybumkins:
The astrologist looked at his natal and said 5 words
selfish, manipulative, possessive, secretive, and sly

BUT she could have come up with that out of the sky as a lot of Scorpios have this trait maybe ?


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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Zarea
Do you mean his stand alone natal chart??

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fluffybumkins
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posted August 06, 2013 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fluffybumkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mean his natal? Here it is

sorry I cannot get it any bigger. If its really scary id rather not know LOLOL

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