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hannaramaa
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posted August 13, 2013 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h466/hannarama/astro_2at_27_does_he_regret_it_hr5761817320_zps8e3c03f2.gif

Hopefully this is the right way to make a horary chart...

Will give a Tarot reading in return.

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posted August 13, 2013 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to be more clear in your question. First : Who is HE? Is he a friend, teacher, lover, ex, current , father, brother etc.

Second : Regret what?

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posted August 13, 2013 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tofu addict:
You need to be more clear in your question. First : Who is HE? Is he a friend, teacher, lover, ex, current , father, brother etc.

Second : Regret what?

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Do I need to redo the Horary chart? He's a friend, and regret hurting me.

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posted August 13, 2013 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No , you don't make a new chart, just the question is unclear, so , is he a friend as in platonic, or a friend as in love interest?

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posted August 13, 2013 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tofu addict:
No , you don't make a new chart, just the question is unclear, so , is he a friend as in platonic, or a friend as in love interest?

Love interest.

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posted August 13, 2013 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

If he is a love interest he is represented by 7th house ruled by mars.
You are venus.

Venus sextile mars but is a separating aspect-like you said it was a fight, an argue between you two.
Mars in cancer=mars in in fall, he doesn't feel good at all.
Venus in virgo is also in fall.

I think you and him fell bad about what happened.
You are in your 12th house, you remain hidden, like...you didn't call him or talk to him in any way since the fight.
He is in your 10th house, does he has something do to with your work, public social status or anything linked with 10th
house?
You are also reprented by moon. Moon in scorpio also in fall, but you like mars.(mars as beeing ruler of scorpio).
also mars like moon-he "like" your feelings towords him.

He is also sun, in loe in domicile, his feeling are ok.

As a conclusion may planets involved are in fall, so i think he feels sorry but he doesn't let you to see it.

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posted August 13, 2013 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well he is placed in sensitive Cancer in his own fall and under your rulership as Moon.. I would like to say yes, but.. It's indeed a confusing question, especially with Saturn in your 1st (some don't read charts with Sat in the 1st), but I see you as Moon approaching him in 9 time units so I guess you will find out for sure then.

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posted August 13, 2013 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait wait wait. First off, where do you learn how to read horary charts? Secondly... you wanna know something interesting? I know someone with the same placements (well he's a Cap sun, Sag moon) and HE definitely has to do with my work. He's a regular customer.

The gentleman I was initially inquiring about... eh, not so much. I mean we are studying the same field but that's it. I started the "fight" per se, after months and months of build up and on / off-ing. So yes, I've remained hidden but he has also reacted negatively by deleting me off Facebook and not dealing with the issue.

With the Cap sun, yes I've remained hidden. I haven't paid much attention to him except to be civil and have stopped all outside contact.

I think both of them feel bad (I know, I was not asking about both of them but since there's cross coincidences...) but I'm not sure how sincere one's feelings are (not the Cap sun, the other one.)

@Hera - that makes sense. I am usually the one to approach him, and I don't like it. This time I'm not going to let myself approach him. It shows that it is only affecting me and important to me, and I wish not to be apart of a one-way street any longer. I want a two-way street. Balance.

@Crys - So about the Moon / Mars - are you saying he likes my attention but his feelings towards me are lukewarm? Just trying to clarify.

Overall, should I ask the question differently and how so, if yes?

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posted August 14, 2013 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

I'm saying that he "likes" your feelings for him, but he is pround and doesn't express his emotions

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posted August 14, 2013 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello,

I'm saying that he "likes" your feelings for him, but he is pround and doesn't express his emotions :)


Oh so that's your way of saying he likes me then?

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posted August 14, 2013 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also what are your and Hera's questions for Tarot?

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posted August 15, 2013 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He likes you and you do too - don't lie! It's all in the chart. I know you don't wanna do the approach all the time, Hanna, I understand that very well. I don't like it either. I think in the context of your question, this shows the opportunity of finding out if he regrets it, in 9 days/weeks or so, which you will initiate, yes. Perhaps you'll ask upfront. I think it's possible, you are angular and have power to act and so does he, despite the essential debility you both have (not in the best times of your lives right now, so to say).

I don't have a question for now, but thank you for offering!

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posted August 15, 2013 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He likes you and you do too - don't lie! It's all in the chart. I know you don't wanna do the approach all the time, Hanna, I understand that very well. I don't like it either. I think in the context of your question, this shows the opportunity of finding out if he regrets it, in 9 days/weeks or so, which you will initiate, yes. Perhaps you'll ask upfront. I think it's possible, you are angular and have power to act and so does he, despite the essential debility you both have (not in the best times of your lives right now, so to say).

I don't have a question for now, but thank you for offering!


I do like him, I care about him.... I just miss talking when it was obvious we cared about each other vs. lots of tension and bitterness (bitterness on my end at least.) He won't open up to me though and it frustrates me. I will not initiate this time!!!! WILL NOT! :P

Oh okay, but if you ever need one just ask me! I'm pretty good at Tarot

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posted August 15, 2013 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's just an opportunity to talk, not precisely you going out of your way to approach him. It's a trine so it will go nice, and there's mutual reception. I would take the chance to be honest. It's good news!

Thank you, I will keep it in mind! It's not that I don't have questions - I have too many! lol Plus I've been getting too many readings lately, I should let the matters rest for now.

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posted August 16, 2013 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think it's just an opportunity to talk, not precisely you going out of your way to approach him. It's a trine so it will go nice, and there's mutual reception. I would take the chance to be honest. It's good news!

Thank you, I will keep it in mind! It's not that I don't have questions - I have too many! lol Plus I've been getting too many readings lately, I should let the matters rest for now.


We live in different states.

He compared our relationship to the characters in Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind.... depressingly sweet and makes me feel bad.

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posted August 16, 2013 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww.. that is a beautiful movie, but that doesn't say he doesn't have feelings for you, on the contrary. Sounds like Mars or Pluto squares in synastry or composite. What do your charts look like, btw?

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posted August 16, 2013 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Awww.. that is a beautiful movie, but that doesn't say he doesn't have feelings for you, on the contrary. Sounds like Mars or Pluto squares in synastry or composite. What do your charts look like, btw?

Unless he's messing with my head so I come back...

Saturn, Uranus, and Venus on my DSC. My Sun, Mercury, and Venus trine his Venus, Uranus, Saturn. Sun trine Sun by sign, I think. His Cappy moon squares my S, M, V stellium in Aries but it falls in my 8th house and I would assume trines my Taurus moon. He's a Sag sun.

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posted August 16, 2013 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awwwwwww but Aries-Sag relationships are EPIC! Truly, who else is gonna be our knights in shining armors and slay dragons just to be with us while passionately declaring their love to the whole world?! Been there, sister.. been there. When it ended, it nearly killed me, and it's not an euphemism. When it was good, it was so damn good.. but when it was bad, it was horrifying.


BTW I think I might change my mind about that reading after all.. This love sh*t messes with my head too.

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He won't TALK to me though like tell me directly and it's maddening. I have Gemini rising. I've SEEN his talkative side. SO I KNOW he has it. It's almost like he won't make an effort since I'm not THERE. Ugh.

Sure just tell me your question.

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Well how far apart are you guys?? Idk, I feel distance is a silly thing to let to come in the way of love and happiness.. but that's me and I like it EPIC lmao! But if he closed himself to the possibility because he doesn't see a future due to distance, I don't know what you can do. Insisting might be considered desperation and us Aries are too proud anyways. I still think that Moon-Mars is a v good opportunity to settle things.

My question is when is that big love that's ALWAYS around the corner but never found, teh big love of my life, yadda yadda, that I know I am not ready for, WHEN is it coming???? If you can't see when, whatever details you can spare, what I need to do to get there, what's he like etc. Ok on a more serious note, I've been freaking out about this, at times it feels like it will always be like this and it's not that I need it, but yeah.. I want a companion, a comrade in arms, a BFF with lots of benefits and deep feelings too. Bahh, love. Such a cruel joke on us humans.

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posted August 17, 2013 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well how far apart are you guys?? Idk, I feel distance is a silly thing to let to come in the way of love and happiness.. but that's me and I like it EPIC lmao! But if he closed himself to the possibility because he doesn't see a future due to distance, I don't know what you can do. Insisting might be considered desperation and us Aries are too proud anyways. I still think that Moon-Mars is a v good opportunity to settle things.

My question is when is that big love that's ALWAYS around the corner but never found, teh big love of my life, yadda yadda, that I know I am not ready for, WHEN is it coming???? If you can't see when, whatever details you can spare, what I need to do to get there, what's he like etc. Ok on a more serious note, I've been freaking out about this, at times it feels like it will always be like this and it's not that I need it, but yeah.. I want a companion, a comrade in arms, a BFF with lots of benefits and deep feelings too. Bahh, love. Such a cruel joke on us humans.


5 hours. But meh. This is just my healing process and how I work through emotions (by obsessing... :blush I already know 5 hours isn't a big deal at all, but he won't compromise with me or hear me out, validate what I'm saying. It's a lot of effort for someone that I'm not even sure is worth it now. So onto greener pastures I go

I will be back with your reading later tonight or tomorrow. Apologies for leaving you hanging so long!

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Oh.. well I'm never pro forcing people or influencing their free will. If he doesn't want to hear you out then just let him be. His loss. The Moon-Mars trine might be your closure then.

Oh I'm not in a hurry with the reading, so take your time. Thank you!

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posted August 18, 2013 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My question is when is that big love that's ALWAYS around the corner but never found, teh big love of my life, yadda yadda, that I know I am not ready for, WHEN is it coming???? If you can't see when, whatever details you can spare, what I need to do to get there, what's he like etc. Ok on a more serious note, I've been freaking out about this, at times it feels like it will always be like this and it's not that I need it, but yeah.. I want a companion, a comrade in arms, a BFF with lots of benefits and deep feelings too. Bahh, love. Such a cruel joke on us humans.

Okay girl, we got an interesting spread here!

2 of Swords
4 of Pentacles

These are the first two cards and unfortunately they show me you are really really really not open to anything right now?! That or you are not seeing the value of people and opportunities you've crossed paths with. There's a tinge of selfishness in these two cards that you're unwilling to change your idea of what you want and expect. You are quite stubborn which is both a blessing and a curse.

Next is The Magician as the root of this. You can do everything yourself. I think it is hard for you to need people and this is due to past pains of being let down by them. You are a very, very capable woman indeed and you need an equally capable man. Unfortunately that is not your lesson at this time. I think you are supposed to be a teacher. You need to be depended on vs. depending on others. When you meet the right person you will know. It's almost as if you will just bust wide open. Ironically enough I don't think you are comfortable under the spotlight, under one on one circumstances. I think you are used to having this rich inner world and feel a bit invaded when someone focuses on it?

At the moment, and maybe internally this is going on, but you're focusing on your pain and trying to make sense of it. It is deep rooted in your heart. You're a very sensitive person and find it hard to understand why others do not take note of this or take precautions. I feel as though you feel left out concerning someone you were talking to recently? They were exciting and inquisitive. Ultimately you would of course like to get on the horse again but right now you feel very blocked and just seem so "done" with trying to find love. I believe it is some kind of spiritual process happening that is close to completion.

You have very compassionate people around you, one in particular who likes to protect your feelings. They are very warm and nurturing and I think you're highly physically attracted to this person. You will eventually move on from this period of stagnation, and with a determined attitude I must say. It seems this is just a resting period for you. Coming up I think you'll meet three important people that are significant to your love life. One is very serious, focused, most likely has dark hair and not in touch with his sensitive side BUT is very protective of you, likes to watch out for you. That's how he shows his love. I think he travels a lot. There's a couple other situations you'll find yourself in but you won't stick around with them for very long because they're not serious. You'll know this, so no worries. They're immature and from what I see just wasting you time - no big deal *dust hands off.* I would just say to work on your communication skills, pay attention to the words people use?! I feel as though this will be how you know the next man you'll get involved with. Something about the way he speaks will light up your world. Maybe he has an accent....

Don't be afraid of criticism either. Come out of your shell and shine bright (like a diamond - SORRY I couldn't help it!) Work on stabilizing your confidence so that you can brush off unpleasant things a bit easier. Don't be afraid to ask the hard questions, get to the point, be a mover and a shaker.

Cards:

2 of Swords / King of Swords (maybe there's someone around you who is trying to talk to you and you're not hearing what they're saying?)
4 of Pentacles / 8 of Swords (Scared of change.)
The Magician / 3 of Pentacles (You feel cornered a bit, but I also read this as being the center of attention)
3 of Swords / The Chariot (Moving on from discomfort or pain, and quickly. Regaining one's freedom)
Page of Wands / Queen of Swords (totally opposite personalities. You should work on thinking less, doing more. Following your heart.)
The World / 4 of Wands (aha! There's that relationship we were looking for... )
Queen of Cups / Queen of Wands (interesting...)
8 of Pentacles / 10 of Pentacles (Is everyone around you married? Are you a workaholic?)
The Lovers / 6 of Pentacles (talking about a relationship with someone you've known for awhile or feel comfortable with)
Page of Cups / 5 of Swords.

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posted August 18, 2013 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You weren't kidding! You are VERY good!!
Everything you said rings very true.

Indeed right now I do not feel like I am ready for a relationship, I do need to spend a little more time with myself until I heal so right now I am not actively trying to find love - you were right that this is a spiritual process coming to and end, this is how I feel, I am almost there, almost at the shore. Some new guy right now would just distract me from the work I know I need to be doing. I am a bit stubborn about what I want and will not compromise the type of interaction I want to have with my partner for something else. I am quite independent and do like it that way. It is hard to need people, especially since I almost never can depend on them.

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I think you are used to having this rich inner world and feel a bit invaded when someone focuses on it?

Yes. They usually come uninvited and wearing combat boots where delicate issues lie.

It is good to know that I am coming out of this period. While it is comfortable, I also know I need to move on from it sooner or later. It does feel like I am "stuck" sometimes, but I think it's just inertia. I should do more, think less, like you said. I feel better when I am proactive.

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Coming up I think you'll meet three important people that are significant to your love life. One is very serious, focused, most likely has dark hair and not in touch with his sensitive side BUT is very protective of you, likes to watch out for you. That's how he shows his love. I think he travels a lot. There's a couple other situations you'll find yourself in but you won't stick around with them for very long because they're not serious. You'll know this, so no worries. They're immature and from what I see just wasting you time - no big deal *dust hands off.*

So you're saying the first one is the right choice, the relationship you saw later on? I have a few not serious situations already and I am taking them as such. I am indeed good at recognizing them, so it shouldn't be a problem.

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Something about the way he speaks will light up your world. Maybe he has an accent....

Lol, it could be, but doubt it's the accent. I actually generally don't like accents much, but I do love people who talk a good game (Mars in the 3rd).

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Don't be afraid of criticism either. Come out of your shell and shine bright (like a diamond - SORRY I couldn't help it!) Work on stabilizing your confidence so that you can brush off unpleasant things a bit easier. Don't be afraid to ask the hard questions, get to the point, be a mover and a shaker.

I think for most part I already am. There is a situation that I need to take care of, settling things with my family, that I have been putting off and should get over with soon. The stagnation period will probably end after that, since this is why I have been dragging my feet - avoiding this.

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2 of Swords / King of Swords (maybe there's someone around you who is trying to talk to you and you're not hearing what they're saying?)

Could be. I'm Mercury sq Asc, I do have issues with communication. Will pay more attention.

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3 of Swords / The Chariot (Moving on from discomfort or pain, and quickly. Regaining one's freedom)

Thank goodness!!!

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8 of Pentacles / 10 of Pentacles (Is everyone around you married? Are you a workaholic?)

Not everyone but most of the people, yes. I do want to settle down, eventually. But yeah, I am also a workaholic sometimes.

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Page of Cups / 5 of Swords.

Hmm.. 5 of Swords is my most hated card! What do you make of it? I gather these are the outcome cards.


I loved your spread and interpretation! Actually there's a deck I have that's basically 2 decks, one in color, one in bland and white, and encourages you to draw 2 cards for each position, from each deck. I wasn't very good at interpretation back then, so I soon dismissed the black and white deck. Your reading kinda makes me think I shouldn't have! It's amazing on how much detail you were able to pick up!

Two thumbs up!!!

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posted August 19, 2013 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Page of Cups and 5 of Swords... at the time I wasn't sure to be honest, so I left that blank but it has just hit me that maybe you need to learn how to manipulate situations into your favor better? Play the game so to speak, so that people are nicer to you.

The King of Swords is indeed the one I think you'll like best. He's private and only asks important questions, expects honesty and fairness above all else and isn't overly emotional which I think you'll be more comfortable with anyway.

As for the rest - YAY! I'm glad you liked it.

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