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Topic: horary help-what is sebastian feeling right now?
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whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 03:43 AM
  
So I told him I'm in love with Bryan, and how I was previously in love with him. I did this over facebook, and then he got off so abruptly Can anyone help interpret this is he happy? Sad?[IMG]http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q730/frankieelizabeth/whatishefe elingrightnow_zps044e9b4e.gif[/IMG] IP: Logged |
elixir
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posted August 27, 2013 03:51 AM
Interesting...chart ruler mars(motivation, passion, action) in the 5th house(love, dating). You may have stirred something up in him. Its well aspected with the moon but squares saturn. IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 03:52 AM
what could I have stirred up in him? A longing?IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 03:54 AM
or an anger?IP: Logged |
elixir
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posted August 27, 2013 04:00 AM
I think it made him THINK first of all. Reassess. Moon in gemini confirms that lol. His mind might be going back and forth. I only started reading horary charts re ently so you should get a second opinion on this though. IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 04:01 AM
ok thank you elixir I appreciate it,  IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 04:06 AM
Anyone else have any insights on this???IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 27, 2013 07:12 AM
Ok, my first reaction was to say chart is invalid because Saturn is in the 7th house and theoretically it shouldn't be read, UNLESS Saturn is one of the significators. Now since you love Bryan, Bryan is your DC ruler Venus. Question is who is Sebastian, to you? A friend, an ex, a fling, a boss etc? Answer me this so I can assign him a planet. IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Ok, my first reaction was to say chart is invalid because Saturn is in the 7th house and theoretically it shouldn't be read, UNLESS Saturn is one of the significators. Now since you love Bryan, Bryan is your DC ruler Venus. Question is who is Sebastian, to you? A friend, an ex, a fling, a boss etc? Answer me this so I can assign him a planet.
He is someone I used to be in love with, and he knew that, but he didn't want to pursue it, which he told me openly, now I'm thinking that he regrets it, because I love bryan now. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 27, 2013 07:13 AM
Ok so would you say that right now, he's a friend?IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Ok so would you say that right now, he's a friend?
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Hera
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posted August 27, 2013 07:15 AM
I am asking what is currently the nature of your relationship.. I need this to figure out who is he in the chart. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 27, 2013 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by whitewitch111:
yes
OK. I thought so, I mean I felt that. Then Sebastian is Saturn, ruler of your 11th house and also Saturn can represent exes and past loves. This makes the chart stand the possibility of being interpreted. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 27, 2013 07:29 AM
So I would say that Saturn definitely has strong feelings for you because he is ruled by you and this is even stronger because it is a night chart and Mars is Scorpio's nocturnal ruler. He didn't want to pursue you because previously he was in Libra, your sign of detriment. He wasn't into you back then. But now I would say that his feelings are strong and you seem to be the one in his heart. On your side, I see you much more neutral about him. You recently switched signs too, but also in his detriment. I would say his rejection left you with some bitter feelings, even though I see you also warm and friendly with him. But since you're now in Leo, you're very proud and unlikely to budge because Leo is fixed. So is Scorpio. His feelings for you are not going to change very soon. I would say he has kept these feelings hidden, he hasn't showed you he had them, perhaps didn't even realized himself, because he is in Via Combusta. I see you approaching him by square, as if you want to put the matter finally to rest and straighten things out even if you have to be a bit harsh so that he gets the message. This is intention on your part but perhaps will not materialize because Sun interferes and sextiles Saturn before you get to square him. Something comes in between and changes things, I would say possibly a minor illness (like a cold) or something hidden surfaces. If contact still happens, you might get into an argument. IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
So I would say that Saturn definitely has strong feelings for you because he is ruled by you and this is even stronger because it is a night chart and Mars is Scorpio's nocturnal ruler. He didn't want to pursue you because previously he was in Libra, your sign of detriment. He wasn't into you back then. But now I would say that his feelings are strong and you seem to be the one in his heart. On your side, I see you much more neutral about him. You recently switched signs too, but also in his detriment. I would say his rejection left you with some bitter feelings, even though I see you also warm and friendly with him. But since you're now in Leo, you're very proud and unlikely to budge because Leo is fixed. So is Scorpio. His feelings for you are not going to change very soon. I would say he has kept these feelings hidden, he hasn't showed you he had them, perhaps didn't even realized himself, because he is in Via Combusta. I see you approaching him by square, as if you want to put the matter finally to rest and straighten things out even if you have to be a bit harsh so that he gets the message. This is intention on your part but perhaps will not materialize because Sun interferes and sextiles Saturn before you get to square him. Something comes in between and changes things, I would say possibly a minor illness (like a cold) or something hidden surfaces. If contact still happens, you might get into an argument.
Thank you so much Hera!!! Greatly appreciate that!
All right, whenever you want your reading just post pics in this forum. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 27, 2013 07:36 AM
Does this make sense to you?
A part of my mind still thinks I should have went with Venus, but since Bryan was mentioned and he's your wanted "partner" I thought he should be Venus lol.
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Hera
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posted August 27, 2013 07:38 AM
As to the actual question, what he's feeling, I think jealous is right on top. Possibly vengeful/spiteful of Bryan too, because Saturn is in Venus's detriment so he can't stand him right now. Via Combusta makes me think he could secretely plot something.
Does he know any coworkers of yours, is he friends with them? Or anything pertaining to your 6th house, your doctors, dentist, trainer, pet pharmacist etc?
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whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
As to the actual question, what he's feeling, I think jealous is right on top. Possibly vengeful/spiteful of Bryan too, because Saturn is in Venus's detriment so he can't stand him right now. Via Combusta makes me think he could secretely plot something.
Does he know any coworkers of yours, is he friends with them? Or anything pertaining to your 6th house, your doctors, dentist, trainer, pet pharmacist etc?
NO he doesn't know anyone like that of me, but we do share a mutual friend named Lilly, and I wouldn't put it past him to try to go through Lilly to get to Bryan, he doesn't know Bryan as far as I know though. IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 07:57 AM
Oh wait, he used to work for my grandma on her farm, could that be of any constellation?IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Does this make sense to you?
A part of my mind still thinks I should have went with Venus, but since Bryan was mentioned and he's your wanted "partner" I thought he should be Venus lol.
It makes perfect sense!! I mean if I were still in love with him, this info. would make me happy, but I feel a sick pride...which I'm ashamed of almost like "see now you can't have me"
However another part of me feels sorrow for the fact that he's suffering, but no the love is not there. IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Does he know any coworkers of yours, is he friends with them? Or anything pertaining to your 6th house, your doctors, dentist, trainer, pet pharmacist etc?[/b]
[b]As to the actual question, what he's feeling, I think jealous is right on top. Possibly vengeful/spiteful of Bryan too, because Saturn is in Venus's detriment so he can't stand him right now. Via Combusta makes me think he could secretely plot something. My sixth house is ruled by Libra, I don't know if that means anything though. IP: Logged |
whitewitch111
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posted August 27, 2013 08:30 AM
By the way is there any indication of where things with Bryan will go now?IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 27, 2013 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by whitewitch111:
NO he doesn't know anyone like that of me, but we do share a mutual friend named Lilly, and I wouldn't put it past him to try to go through Lilly to get to Bryan, he doesn't know Bryan as far as I know though.
Hmm.. this is where it gets interesting. Because the Sun approaches him, whomever the Sun is. However, there is a frustration to that aspect too, because Moon applies to square Sun and Moon is faster. It seems like there will be some gossip and he said, she said cr@p. Moon could be you or an ex (your ex-ruler) or family member. You said he knows your grandma? IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 27, 2013 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by whitewitch111:
It makes perfect sense!! I mean if I were still in love with him, this info. would make me happy, but I feel a sick pride...which I'm ashamed of almost like "see now you can't have me"
However another part of me feels sorrow for the fact that he's suffering, but no the love is not there.
Well the pride bit has to do with Mars being in Leo. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 27, 2013 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by whitewitch111:
My sixth house is ruled by Libra, I don't know if that means anything though.
Nope, natals mean nothing to horary lol. IP: Logged |
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