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Insilver
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posted August 30, 2013 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Insilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Chryseis I've been following your readings and I just love the way you write, how the words flow and swirl... taking me on a journey. The mental images I get when I read them are quite lovely and I thank you for sharing your gift here with us.

I like your honesty and matter-of-factness, how you help when you can even if it's not what the person was hoping to hear. Plus you're a Virgo sun with a(I believe)Gemini moon, so what's not to like.

At the risk of sounding like I'm totally buttering you up (ok a little lol), I would be thrilled if you had time/inclination to look at the natals, syn, and composite of me and my guy. I feel a very strong karmic bond with him like no other and I feel there's a piece of info perhaps from one of our lives together that will help me very much.

So because I'll only have my mobile for the next while I'm going to post the charts now while I can... no pressure, I understand that sometimes you aren't able to get anything. Thank you for reading all this.

My natal:

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His natal:

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Synastry:

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Composite:

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Chryseis
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posted August 31, 2013 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Insilver, thanks for the compliments, susceptibility to flattery is one of my foibles, fer sher.

I do get good impressions off the charts so I will work my way through. I'll start with the composite then I will go to the synastry, then I will include if there is anything in particular off the natals. Or if I run out of steam with it, I'll just post what I can.

First of all, his ascendant(and midheaven) I believe, are not right. I'm not entirely sure but I think his MC is Aquarius, and his rising is Gemini.

So with the composite, I am reading it but thing the moon and AC etc would be different - but I feel I can still read it. When I looked at it I will tell you my initial impressions
-an impression of 2-3yrs
-an impression of tears, and me feeling a bit sorry for both people
- an impression that something is off but that there is also a lot in it. For example, perhaps you feel that the relationship needs to be much more and he can feel you upset but this is about the extent of a great relationship for him - he has like a ceiling and he's right up against it - so despite it feeling like you just want to amp up this relationship - you are actually getting a pretty much maximum level of engagement off him. So yes, you probably feel quite frustrated with the relationship somehow not meeting a benchmark - he on the otherhand can get quite distressed and at a loss to appease your concerns. You can end up in hurt tears perhaps. Problem is he does not have like the same concept of relationships as you do.

Venus trine the node in composite speaks of social media awareness of one another - and again maybe you would like him to make more of a presence of you in his social media stuff.

Node opposition chiron in the composite. Gives me a pretty good feel, though it can be different in synastry and natal. In the composite it feels like an intervention - a tool to pull the 'scales' from both eyes. On your part, maybe that you just give up with it - and think whatever mate, I'm over it. On his part, there is an element of him waiting like a predator to strike. So I'm not sure what is going on with this. I think he almost seems like despite him giving his best relationship wise, he could actually diversify and broaden rather than heighten and he's waiting/watching you - so he holds himself in reserve - he has a feel of being a 'catch' and I think very loyal and devoted. So though you won't reach the heady heights with him at this point. If somehow you broaden your awareness of appreciation - I think you will find that somehow he lets more 'out' of himself and so the relationship will potentially broaden. So this has a lot to do with values and there is a sexile of Venus and Chiron (Venus often indicating values). So yeah, he won't be taken into a hole with someone - he aspires to more. You do to but you are a bit wowed by how you think a relationship should be rather than the true relationship - maybe - so you might want more show - he, on some level thinks 'not doin it - not doin the show'.

Now for the brain drain, the synastry, because I have to work my way around and guesstimate the aspects.

I'll do it from his perspective: this is what I would like myself 'the secwets...'

So his AC (and MC) like I said, I don't think is correct and I think he does have Gem rising, and Aquarius MC.

I will try and give an idea of how he feels his AC's interaction with your chart. So he feels he has slipped up, he has problem talking with important people about you and him - finds it difficult to talk to your mother and difficult to talk to his mother about you and the relationship. So yes, he is 'sitting' and doesn't want to talk to people or even you too much about the reality of what is really going on for him in this. He feels he might have to act poor with you, act frugal too. He's quite extravagant in actuality. He would like to spend more time luxuriating - but feels he has to keep things fairly practical and thrifty. So yes, for eg. he might like to luxuriate in a bath then sort of just while away hours with no goal in particular like just lying on the bed watching TV maybe having sex for a few hours - just basically wallowing in hours of relaxation, sensuality and indulgence - like clean skin contact, good shows to watch, etc etc - just hanging out together but in a nice way - he feels he has to tighten all that up and be more systematic, organised and goal directed in every hour.

His MC gives him these kinds of feels from you chart. He is so totally grateful for you. Like a huge sigh of relief that you are in his life. He is quite dependent on you being around. Totally appreciates many things about you. Secretly would like to be a little like you, wants to be admired by you. Would like to give and receive between you in life so that you help and support one another.

His sun is affected by your Moon, so it would be a minor minor aspect but I think what is in the energies around your Moon-AC-Saturn opposing Jupiter and his Neptune on your DC and quincunx his Sun. It makes him feel a bit nervy sick - like he is worried but can not define it - and it again makes me feel a little sorry for him - he feels under pressure.

His Sun sextiles your Venus: he really likes you, he thinks you think he is good for you - he thinks so too.

His Sun square your Mercury: this is a pressure aspect for him - he admires your thinking style - but it scares him - he's not sure if he can measure up.

I won't worry about his Sun quincunx your Pluto.

His Sun trine your Node: he tries to sweep you under the carpet in a way, like he makes you wait until he is ready to give you his attention - so again he has tone down the influence you have on him to put him under pressure (that's confusing - so he has to curb how much he feels he has to give his attention to you - he can't handle anymore until he can handle more).

His Moon conjunct your Uranus (still in orb of influence): He really likes you - your exciting - so much potential, would always feel electrified by you. Likely to feel unstable emotionally at times around you though.

I'm not sure about his Moon to your Saturn.

It seems his Moon can feel your AC and is affected thus: he feels insecure like he doesn't suit you enough to your liking - and so he can think - "well if that's how you feel then I'm better off without you - but then he thinks no - don't listen to me - but do me a favour, get to know me - I'm what you need".

His Moon sextiles your Venus: He gets an impression that you think he is hot - he does feel like he actually is - in my impression of him - so I agree with you. He is fairly modest but likes to look good - so he does feel like he has attended to the basics and probably justifies what he thinks you think of him. But yes, he has a hot feel to me too, lol.

His Node does feel an affect of your Moon-Pluto combo: It feels a little detrimental to him. Like you will affect his direction in life in a manner that he is not really happy with - I'm not exactly sure of the details.

His Vertex involves a lot more other people in his life that are removed from you.

Your Vertex has a motivated feel regarding him - like a corridor - where you find it hard to find him. I'm not sure of the details.

His natal chart - though he did have a hot impression, when I look at his natal he seems a bit crude, a bit rude, a bit rough - though still has a bit of a hot feel - though I am a little put off. He has lots of problems in his natal - could venture into alcoholism or similar, could be in and out of work, could get involved in semi-illegal stuff, could turn a blind eye to injustice.

Your natal chart - You are as sweet as apples. Totally forgiving and compassionate, could have done well at school - could have made a life out of education and basically lived in education. You love the most sweetest things - your chart has colours in it to me like buttercup and orangey glows like sun on yellow daisies with a hint of green and growing things as well as shelves and desks with the slightest smattering of dust. And stuff like maypole dancing or similar - you can cook, you like recipes, you can write, you are not indulgent of bothersome types of children but in small doses good children could benefit from your attention and you would enjoy them around too.

I would say that you had a serious setback emotionally-psychologically like a large shock - it has already occurred to you and probably in your early twenties - and was revisited in your mid thirties to some degree. It was like your life felt like it all fell into a big hole and you are still trying to recover from the devastation.

You have some tasks in your life - you have to work on your self esteem - as you are quite fragile. You have to give more - as I think you have minimised your giving to others. I think you could work on your self esteem via building your reputation - so you need to tell people about how good you are so that you believe it too and they treat you better. I'm not normally one for this type of solution but this seems like the answer for you.


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Insilver
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posted September 04, 2013 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Insilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Chryseis, first of all THANK YOU for that amazing reading. You hit it right the whole way through and I am so impressed with how deep you were able to see and interpret thusly. Giving me insight into his thinking and intentions (and my own!) is such a gift, I can't thank you enough. I have been sending you the loveliest energy.

I wanted to reply after digesting and processing what you said and then there have been computer/mobile delays. I didn't want to go too long without giving thanks and I am going to give you feedback tomorrow morning on my work pc. This has opened my eyes and your kindness has made a big difference for me. Thank you.

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posted September 05, 2013 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Insilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chryseis:
Hi Insilver, thanks for the compliments, susceptibility to flattery is one of my foibles, fer sher.

~~You're quite welcome ~~


First of all, his ascendant(and midheaven) I believe, are not right. I'm not entirely sure but I think his MC is Aquarius, and his rising is Gemini.

~~ This part I wonder about as he is quite Geminian but it would put his bunch o' planets in his 12th and I kind of thought them being in the 11th is where he gets his adoration for his friends (but then maybe I'm just used to it). Plus it would put our composite Venus in the 1st house instead of 12th and we definitely have been living a 12th house Venus (hidden). I have no doubt if you say it's off then it is.~~


So with the composite, I am reading it but thing the moon and AC etc would be different - but I feel I can still read it. When I looked at it I will tell you my initial impressions
-an impression of 2-3yrs

~~yes that's how long we've been together~~

-an impression of tears, and me feeling a bit sorry for both people

~~yes there has been some of that and I have felt that way about us too~~

- an impression that something is off but that there is also a lot in it. For example, perhaps you feel that the relationship needs to be much more and he can feel you upset but this is about the extent of a great relationship for him - he has like a ceiling and he's right up against it - so despite it feeling like you just want to amp up this relationship - you are actually getting a pretty much maximum level of engagement off him. So yes, you probably feel quite frustrated with the relationship somehow not meeting a benchmark - he on the otherhand can get quite distressed and at a loss to appease your concerns. You can end up in hurt tears perhaps. Problem is he does not have like the same concept of relationships as you do.

~~that is exactly right. I have felt hidden and was at a loss as to why he didn't seem to want to define us. Yet he seemed honest and with good intentions. I had a hard time figuring out him and his intentions but this makes total sense.~~

Venus trine the node in composite speaks of social media awareness of one another - and again maybe you would like him to make more of a presence of you in his social media stuff.

~~lol yes I would. We used to be on each others' facebook but early on after a disagreement I defriended him and we haven't re-friended yet. My bad for overreacting.~~

Node opposition chiron in the composite. Gives me a pretty good feel, though it can be different in synastry and natal. In the composite it feels like an intervention - a tool to pull the 'scales' from both eyes. On your part, maybe that you just give up with it - and think whatever mate, I'm over it. On his part, there is an element of him waiting like a predator to strike. So I'm not sure what is going on with this. I think he almost seems like despite him giving his best relationship wise, he could actually diversify and broaden rather than heighten and he's waiting/watching you - so he holds himself in reserve - he has a feel of being a 'catch' and I think very loyal and devoted. So though you won't reach the heady heights with him at this point. If somehow you broaden your awareness of appreciation - I think you will find that somehow he lets more 'out' of himself and so the relationship will potentially broaden. So this has a lot to do with values and there is a sexile of Venus and Chiron (Venus often indicating values). So yeah, he won't be taken into a hole with someone - he aspires to more. You do to but you are a bit wowed by how you think a relationship should be rather than the true relationship - maybe - so you might want more show - he, on some level thinks 'not doin it - not doin the show'.

~~goodness this is brilliant. So true. Every time I've walked away he's chased me and won me back. I totally agree that he's loyal and devoted but doesn't want 'the show', though that has always caused me to interpret it as hiding me.~~

So he feels he has slipped up, he has problem talking with important people about you and him - finds it difficult to talk to your mother and difficult to talk to his mother about you and the relationship. So yes, he is 'sitting' and doesn't want to talk to people or even you too much about the reality of what is really going on for him in this. He feels he might have to act poor with you, act frugal too. He's quite extravagant in actuality. He would like to spend more time luxuriating - but feels he has to keep things fairly practical and thrifty.

~~ Yes! I know he doesn't talk about me or us much at all and I know his mother doesn't know about us yet, which feeds the 'hidden' aspect I feel. He is generous $$ with me at times but others he holds back.~~

So yes, for eg. he might like to luxuriate in a bath then sort of just while away hours with no goal in particular like just lying on the bed watching TV maybe having sex for a few hours - just basically wallowing in hours of relaxation, sensuality and indulgence - like clean skin contact, good shows to watch, etc etc - just hanging out together but in a nice way - he feels he has to tighten all that up and be more systematic, organised and goal directed in every hour.

~~ Wow you just described to a t how we love to spend private time together. It's like our own eden. We both love it, yet I do feel he does try to tighten it up like you said.~~

His MC gives him these kinds of feels from you chart. He is so totally grateful for you. Like a huge sigh of relief that you are in his life. He is quite dependent on you being around. Totally appreciates many things about you. Secretly would like to be a little like you, wants to be admired by you. Would like to give and receive between you in life so that you help and support one another.

**This melts my heart. Thank you for telling me this. I too would love to give and receive with him.**

His sun is affected by your Moon, so it would be a minor minor aspect but I think what is in the energies around your Moon-AC-Saturn opposing Jupiter and his Neptune on your DC and quincunx his Sun. It makes him feel a bit nervy sick - like he is worried but can not define it - and it again makes me feel a little sorry for him - he feels under pressure.

**This I feel from him when he pulls back**

His Sun sextiles your Venus: he really likes you, he thinks you think he is good for you - he thinks so too.

**I think he is too lol**

His Sun square your Mercury: this is a pressure aspect for him - he admires your thinking style - but it scares him - he's not sure if he can measure up.

**This I also feel but his merc in Gemini is quite amazing. His style is different but definitely tantalizing**


His Sun trine your Node: he tries to sweep you under the carpet in a way, like he makes you wait until he is ready to give you his attention - so again he has tone down the influence you have on him to put him under pressure (that's confusing - so he has to curb how much he feels he has to give his attention to you - he can't handle anymore until he can handle more).

**This is the part that gives me the most irritation. Now I can see why he does it but it just emphasizes how I feel hidden. I get this though and I`m glad you mentioned it**

His Moon conjunct your Uranus (still in orb of influence): He really likes you - your exciting - so much potential, would always feel electrified by you. Likely to feel unstable emotionally at times around you though.

**I feel the same way and I like it a lot**

Well I have to stop here for now but I will finish the rest very soon.


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Chryseis
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posted September 06, 2013 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi InSilver, thank you for your responses.

Yes, it is only like a general idea that his AC is incorrect. To read your affects on his AC and MC I just read it by sensation.

I considered why you would experience it as a 12th house Venus and it seems that there is interplay between composite Venus and the MC. So, I can not determine which sign it will be but think it could still be Pisces.

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posted September 10, 2013 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Insilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello Chryseis, I finally have some uninterrupted time to finish up my feedback for you, it seems like lately I've had people around me constantly. lol


It seems his Moon can feel your AC and is affected thus: he feels insecure like he doesn't suit you enough to your liking - and so he can think - "well if that's how you feel then I'm better off without you - but then he thinks no - don't listen to me - but do me a favour, get to know me - I'm what you need".

**this is totally true right from the beginning pretty much, but it seems to be better over time**

His Moon sextiles your Venus: He gets an impression that you think he is hot - he does feel like he actually is - in my impression of him - so I agree with you. He is fairly modest but likes to look good - so he does feel like he has attended to the basics and probably justifies what he thinks you think of him. But yes, he has a hot feel to me too, lol.

**lol funny you should say this, I think he's crazy hot and we call one another hot pretty much daily lol**

His Node does feel an affect of your Moon-Pluto combo: It feels a little detrimental to him. Like you will affect his direction in life in a manner that he is not really happy with - I'm not exactly sure of the details.

**This I can see because he likes to travel a lot and be very spontaneous with plans and I'm much more of a planner as I have two little responsibilities that he does not have. We have different lives plus an age difference so I can totally understand this**

His Vertex involves a lot more other people in his life that are removed from you.

**I feel that, he's got quite the large circle of friends and aquaintences, most I haven't met**

Your Vertex has a motivated feel regarding him - like a corridor - where you find it hard to find him. I'm not sure of the details.

**not sure about the meaning here but I have feelings of not wanting to leave him behind for some reason**

His natal chart - though he did have a hot impression, when I look at his natal he seems a bit crude, a bit rude, a bit rough - though still has a bit of a hot feel - though I am a little put off. He has lots of problems in his natal - could venture into alcoholism or similar, could be in and out of work, could get involved in semi-illegal stuff, could turn a blind eye to injustice.

**honestly in the beginning (and middle) I wondered if he was bipolar or something. His behavior was erratic and it took a long time before he'd confide in me and let me in. I know he likes to drink socially, has never done drugs, has worked at the same place for many years, seems very conscious of 'doing the right thing' but at the same time is careful about getting involved in things where he might be over his head, thus turning a blind eye perhaps **

Your natal chart - You are as sweet as apples. Totally forgiving and compassionate, could have done well at school - could have made a life out of education and basically lived in education. You love the most sweetest things - your chart has colours in it to me like buttercup and orangey glows like sun on yellow daisies with a hint of green and growing things as well as shelves and desks with the slightest smattering of dust. And stuff like maypole dancing or similar - you can cook, you like recipes, you can write, you are not indulgent of bothersome types of children but in small doses good children could benefit from your attention and you would enjoy them around too.

**thank you very much, your words are so lovely. The word sweet I hear a lot as a descriptive of me. I enjoyed any post secondary education I have done and look forward to more but just workshops really. It's totally true about bothersome children lol**

I would say that you had a serious setback emotionally-psychologically like a large shock - it has already occurred to you and probably in your early twenties - and was revisited in your mid thirties to some degree. It was like your life felt like it all fell into a big hole and you are still trying to recover from the devastation.

**very true, those times coincide with both my marriages which were disastrous. Jumped in too quickly and was very unhappy. I feel the last hurdle is forgiving myself for being so impulsive and blind**

You have some tasks in your life - you have to work on your self esteem - as you are quite fragile. You have to give more - as I think you have minimised your giving to others. I think you could work on your self esteem via building your reputation - so you need to tell people about how good you are so that you believe it too and they treat you better. I'm not normally one for this type of solution but this seems like the answer for you.

**you are right again, I do hold myself back from giving because I used to give way too much. I find your solution interesting and usually I'm not one for that either but the older I get the easier self-promotion is**

**So again, thank you so much for this. I have really taken it all in and made changes in how I'm relating to him. I ease the feelings of pressure and he gives more of himself.**

Blessings to you Chryseis.


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Insilver
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posted September 10, 2013 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Insilver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chryseis:
Hi InSilver, thank you for your responses.

Yes, it is only like a general idea that his AC is incorrect. To read your affects on his AC and MC I just read it by sensation.

I considered why you would experience it as a 12th house Venus and it seems that there is interplay between composite Venus and the MC. So, I can not determine which sign it will be but think it could still be Pisces.

**you're welcome. I know so little about astrology compared to what there is to know and I an grateful for any interpretations that will help me to learn more, so thank you **


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