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venuscorpio86
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posted September 01, 2013 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello. Question...is there anything in my chart that points to what makes me so...unlovable in regards to relationships, men? I can't seem to ever find or meet one who finds me worthy of anything, I'm so tired of it and irritated. What makes me less worthy than other women where anytime I date or whatever it never lasts even 6 months, I feel like men who do message me (being that I tried online dating) message me and its more like I'm a sex object or something. What is the issue? I'm not prepared or ready to spend a life alone cause that is where it looks like I'm heading...its the worst feeling in the world since I do love and want a family to be in love and find someone who loves me or atleast likes me....I've kept myself morally correct, always had a clean good reputation, sure I go out but I never been known to get around, I tried this Summer to be more "open" had or have a Summer fling but I'm scared it won't go nowhere, I've had cards pulled that look very positive from readers...I feel like now I'm trying a different approach to finding something meaningful which ...hasn't worked for me either yet..instead I feel empty. I've talked met hungout with a few guys they all seem so..disrespectful sex is only thing they seem to be after...what is wrong with me?? Is there anything someone can tell me about my natal chart?

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venuscorpio86
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posted September 01, 2013 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also..why will my chart not post like everyone elses has

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cherful24
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posted September 01, 2013 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi I had to comment on your post I feel the exact same way and I asked the exact same question I just don't get it myself. I know that I have Saturn transitioning my seventh house but even before that I barely got a good decent guy so I don't know. I'm going to be 35 in a couple of days and all my ex's are married are having children or at least a long term relationship and I have no one and I have not had anyone since my boyfriend married and is now having a baby with this girl and it was like a sudden. so I feel you there are no answers but I hope your situation changes

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cherful24
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posted September 01, 2013 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just reread your post and I felt like I had to post again I'm just so taken back by what you said because it's the exact same thing that's happening with me my card look positive I have talked to so many psychic so many card readers I'm always supposed to be meeting guys and then Mr wonderful was to come along but it never happens I to get considered more I'm a fling look at more of an abject than anything else I am supposedly very pretty and very bubbly very sweet so I don't know why my Mr Wonderful has not come along. this is just totally b******* that's all

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zarea
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posted September 01, 2013 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zarea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello venusscorpio, (sorry cheerful, got the alias confused)

what strikes me in your post is the phrasing of your question: something about "you" that doesn't work, even in the phrasing about the chart posting here...

My point is that, you probably need to change how you look at yourself. There's nothing about you that would make a man want to marry you or not, the only thing that send men away is "neediness" and I can't say you're needy or not from your writing here or your chart.

I know society tell everyone/every woman that we're supposed to find prince charming, marry , and live happily ever after. And of course those who don't either by choice or circumstances (life happening) are "blamed" as "failures"...
Do you approach your relationships in a rigid manner thinking of that sublime moment at the altar? if you do subconsciously or not, this may send a vibe to potential partners who feel pressured or boxed...I'm not saying that you do, mind you..
In any case, from looking at your chart, i noticed that you have aquarius on your ascendant with its ruler uranus in your 11th house of hope and wishes making a sextile with your moon which is in your seventh house. This would tell me that you would have an independent personality, value freedom, your relationship and especially your emotional way of expressing yourself is colored by uranian flavors: value freedom in your relationship, detached emotionally sometimes, and the leo moon would make you a proud individual. Pluto is also transiting your twelve house at the moment: I would look into the meaning of that transit if I were you.

In any case, I wouldn't worry about having something "about you" that make men not want a serious long term relationship with you. I would focus on understanding yourself, how you view yourself, and accept yourself. The rest is out of our control and maybe your control more than most as you have uranus in your hope and wishes sector of your chart.

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zarea
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posted September 01, 2013 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zarea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hello Cheerful,

what strikes me in your post is the phrasing of your question: something about "you" that doesn't work, even in the phrasing about the chart posting here...

My point is that, you probably need to change how you look at yourself. There's nothing about you that would make a man want to marry you or not, the only thing that send men away is "neediness" and I can't say you're needy or not from your writing here or your chart.

I know society tell everyone/every woman that we're supposed to find prince charming, marry , and live happily ever after. And of course those who don't either by choice or circumstances (life happening) are "blamed" as "failures"...
Do you approach your relationships in a rigid manner thinking of that sublime moment at the altar? if you do subconsciously or not, this may send a vibe to potential partners who feel pressured or boxed...I'm not saying that you do, mind you..
In any case, from looking at your chart, i noticed that you have aquarius on your ascendant with its ruler uranus in your 11th house of hope and wishes making a sextile with your moon which is in your seventh house. This would tell me that you would have an independent personality, value freedom, your relationship and especially your emotional way of expressing yourself is colored by uranian flavors: value freedom in your relationship, detached emotionally sometimes, and the leo moon would make you a proud individual. Pluto is also transiting your twelve house at the moment: I would look into the meaning of that transit if I were you.

In any case, I wouldn't worry about having something "about you" that make men not want a serious long term relationship with you. I would focus on understanding yourself, how you view yourself, and accept yourself. The rest is out of our control and maybe your control more than most as you have uranus in your hope and wishes sector of your chart.

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redshoes
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posted September 01, 2013 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What makes me not worthy of being loved by a man?


Nothing to do with the chart, it is to do with you not loving yourself first

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Astro keen
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posted September 01, 2013 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Venuscorpio,

Someone on this site recommended a book for women who tend to get involved in relationships which never last very long because the women simply don't value themselves enough. This translates into being too nice and in overcompensating behaviours. Men realise quite early on that they control the women; these women lack the edge they need and simply lose interest. Lots of examples about what being 'edgy' or self-worth means in different scenarios. The book is "Why men love b****** - From doormat to dreamgirl'' by Sherry Argov. I would suggest you read this.

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andstuff
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posted September 01, 2013 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Astro

Even dream girls get the blues. Being cool and self-sufficient is not a guarantee of happiness. Sometimes there's other things. I used to love a total loser who went to ruin and guess what all sorts come to me and I can't forgive them for not being him. More attractive, more educated, more successful... And yet they just lack a certain something. Not even talking about underloved late bloomers, those are ready to snap anyone up


Just saying "men" and "everyone" often refers to 2 or 3 individuals, whereas the rest is just one big d$ckless nothingness whose opinion barely matters and whose desire to be with us doesn't increase our market value


PS RAS said there is a problem with photobucket images, somehow they are not displayed properly

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posted September 01, 2013 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can you expect men to love you when you don't even love yourself ???
Self-love is the first step to loving others.

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redshoes
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posted September 01, 2013 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SilverFeather

you echoed my post

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Sandra018
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posted September 01, 2013 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sandra018     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have a Venus in Scorpio, which is appealing to the opposite sex..then you have Venus conj Pluto in Scorpio which is again very attractive. So I understand why the opposite sex is so interested in you on a sexual level. you have that extra something that's attractive.
Having know that you need to use it to your benefit. Be aware of the effect you have on the opposite sex and weed out the guys who are only after that.
Please understand that its your energy, you carry it everywhere and people react to it, its only natural..and its not something you do, so don't beat yourself up over it..
I hope this helps

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redshoes
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posted September 01, 2013 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
..and remembering ladies something my mother used to say to me when i was growing up

*give a man an inch and he will take a yard*

she also said women need to set the boundary line with men, if you don't how can you expect them to respect you and treat you well

have to be tough sometimes!

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ScorpionAz
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posted September 01, 2013 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpionAz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a lot of good comments thus far on this post so there's not much I can add. However ...

The most important relationship in your life should be with yourself. A man nor a relationship should determine your worth. It is YOU who determines your worth and don't accept anything less than you deserve. Happiness comes from within. You aren't going to get what you're seeking from a man. I can say these things because I've been exactly where you are.

As far as your problems with dating, you're not the only one. That's the way it is. You have to weed through the garbage to find the rare gems. If men contact you on a dating site and start talking about sex, tell them that it is disrespectful and cut them off. Make it clear that sh*** isn't acceptable. Make sure there are no sexy pictures on your profile. Respect yourself and a man will respect you too ... Demand nothing less! You can generally tell before meeting a guy what they are after, so don't waste your time setting up dates and hanging out with them. If they are making sexual comments or asking/sharing nasty pictures, trust me, they aren't looking for a "serious relationship". I don't care what their profile says. Most of what you'll find online is a waste of your time. Be very wary and careful.

I want to say ... take a break from dating and work on yourself. Love will find you as soon as you love yourself. You don't have to try so hard. It usually surprises you when you're not looking for it. And don't feel so down on yourself because men want sex. That is the nature of the beast. When you meet someone, take the time to get to know them. If "86" is the year you were born, then you are still pretty young. RELAX!

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venuscorpio86
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posted September 01, 2013 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
Hi Venuscorpio,

Someone on this site recommended a book for women who tend to get involved in relationships which never last very long because the women simply don't value themselves enough. This translates into being too nice and in overcompensating behaviours. Men realise quite early on that they control the women; these women lack the edge they need and simply lose interest. Lots of examples about what being 'edgy' or self-worth means in different scenarios. The book is "Why men love b****** - From doormat to dreamgirl'' by Sherry Argov. I would suggest you read this.



I love reading, so this would probably be a good book for me to read. Sounds interesting! I think I will def read it...I've transformed myself alot taken different approaches. I've been the ***** , I've been the nice, sweet girl, I've been the one to make sure they know I'm looking for something real, I've been the one to act aloof I don't let on that commitment is what I want. Nothing works. I've been myself I've been something else I've tried it all.

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venuscorpio86
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posted September 01, 2013 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andstuff:
@Astro

Even dream girls get the blues. Being cool and self-sufficient is not a guarantee of happiness. Sometimes there's other things. I used to love a total loser who went to ruin and guess what all sorts come to me and I can't forgive them for not being him. More attractive, more educated, more successful... And yet they just lack a certain something. Not even talking about underloved late bloomers, those are ready to snap anyone up


Just saying "men" and "everyone" often refers to 2 or 3 individuals, whereas the rest is just one big d$ckless nothingness whose opinion barely matters and whose desire to be with us doesn't increase our market value


PS RAS said there is a problem with photobucket images, somehow they are not displayed properly



True! You can be a self-efficient, independent strong women doesn't matter men don't respect me for that, I can be the dependent type make a man feel needed, doesn't work. I love you post very blunt and honest lol

Yes, photobucket is having issues because I have posted my chart before successfully, last night it just wasn't working for me

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venuscorpio86
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posted September 01, 2013 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ScorpionAz:
There's a lot of good comments thus far on this post so there's not much I can add. However ...

The most important relationship in your life should be with yourself. A man nor a relationship should determine your worth. It is YOU who determines your worth and don't accept anything less than you deserve. Happiness comes from within. You aren't going to get what you're seeking from a man. I can say these things because I've been exactly where you are.

As far as your problems with dating, you're not the only one. That's the way it is. You have to weed through the garbage to find the rare gems. If men contact you on a dating site and start talking about sex, tell them that it is disrespectful and cut them off. Make it clear that sh*** isn't acceptable. Make sure there are no sexy pictures on your profile. Respect yourself and a man will respect you too ... Demand nothing less! You can generally tell before meeting a guy what they are after, so don't waste your time setting up dates and hanging out with them. If they are making sexual comments or asking/sharing nasty pictures, trust me, they aren't looking for a "serious relationship". I don't care what their profile says. Most of what you'll find online is a waste of your time. Be very wary and careful.

I want to say ... take a break from dating and work on yourself. Love will find you as soon as you love yourself. You don't have to try so hard. It usually surprises you when you're not looking for it. And don't feel so down on yourself because men want sex. That is the nature of the beast. When you meet someone, take the time to get to know them. If "86" is the year you were born, then you are still pretty young. RELAX!



Thank you I took a six year break from dating, being intimate or anything..I thought that was long enough lol. My profile is simple I'm not being provocative at all in them, yes, I cut those men off real quick and block them

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ScorpionAz
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posted September 02, 2013 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpionAz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's great, Venus. You're already ahead of the game. I think a lot of women feel they have to post sexy pictures to get attention but they're only getting the wrong kind, especially younger women and/or women with low self esteem.

Just try not to over-think the dating thing. I know that's hard to do. I'll be 42 in November and it's really hard to stay positive, especially since I'm generally pessimistic by nature. It sucks being alone sometimes but it sucks even more to be in a relationship and FEEL alone .. or be with a man who isn't worthy of you. Keep those standards high and don't accept less than you deserve.

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posted September 02, 2013 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am looking at your natal chart based on 5 deg. orbs.

You have natal S sqr. MR - your are not afraid to take on a challenge, but, you might become argumentative in the process.

You have a tight Grand Trine with your natal M (tri. NN and tri. UR) - this suggest that you have the potential to be favorably flexiable in your emotional issues.

Your VE is aspected well, but, - it is positioned poorly between your natal MR sqr. S and your natal JP sqr. SA.. And this where your astrological problems are rooted.

Your natal MY is in an (exact tri. with JP and conjunct P) - this is powerful communication aspect combination but, like your VE, it is situated in your planet collection where it is not as beneficial as you might like.

The bottom line, your communication potential is out of sink with your love potential. This is not your fault and this does not mean you can not have a meaningful love life, it does mean you may have to learn how to temper what you say and, perhaps learn how to apologize.


During the coarse of the year, your life goes in and out of high points in direct correlation with your natal planets. Every year the transiting Sun will hit both your favorable natal aspects and your unfavorable natal aspects. When the transiting Sun hits your favorable natal aspects, this can be called the high points. This may help you take action to improve your life, I have listed your important cycle peaks and valleys. If you can, make a vertical calendar, then color code the calendar according to the data given. This may help you visualize and internalize your life cycle. This one calendar can be used for life.

(101 - 108 = Jan. 01 thru Jan. 08 of any given year, do positive upbeat things.)

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This is your Vertical Sun Cycle:

101 - 108

128 - 327 (This is not your time to be heard, bit your lip and go with the flow!)

331 - 418

423 - 612 (This is not your time to be heard, bit your lip and go with the flow!)

614 - 710

723 - 929 (This is not your time to be heard, bit your lip and go with the flow!)

1004 - 1106! - This is the best time of year for you. Do as many positive things you can possibly do during this time, on any given year.

1111 - 1211 (This is not your time to be heard, bit your lip and go with the flow!)

1213 - 1231


There is a bonus to this list. If you find people who have a birthdate, of any age, on any of the positive dates I have listed, then these people will have their natal Sun in good aspect with many of your natal planets. Some of these people may have the potential to be friends with you. But, caution, this does not mean that they will be compatible with you. You will have to research Synastry Aspects to get a clearer picture of that.


Best Wishes,
slowpoke

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venuscorpio86
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posted September 02, 2013 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slowpoke:
I am looking at your natal chart based on 5 deg. orbs.

You have natal S sqr. MR - your are not afraid to take on a challenge, but, you might become argumentative in the process.

You have a tight Grand Trine with your natal M (tri. NN and tri. UR) - this suggest that you have the potential to be favorably flexiable in your emotional issues.

Your VE is aspected well, but, - it is positioned poorly between your natal MR sqr. S and your natal JP sqr. SA.. And this where your astrological problems are rooted.

Your natal MY is in an (exact tri. with JP and conjunct P) - this is powerful communication aspect combination but, like your VE, it is situated in your planet collection where it is not as beneficial as you might like.

The bottom line, your communication potential is out of sink with your love potential. This is not your fault and this does not mean you can not have a meaningful love life, it does mean you may have to learn how to temper what you say and, perhaps learn how to apologize.


During the coarse of the year, your life goes in and out of high points in direct correlation with your natal planets. Every year the transiting Sun will hit both your favorable natal aspects and your unfavorable natal aspects. When the transiting Sun hits your favorable natal aspects, this can be called the high points. This may help you take action to improve your life, I have listed your important cycle peaks and valleys. If you can, make a vertical calendar, then color code the calendar according to the data given. This may help you visualize and internalize your life cycle. This one calendar can be used for life.

(101 - 108 = Jan. 01 thru Jan. 08 of any given year, do positive upbeat things.)

=========================================================
This is your Vertical Sun Cycle:

101 - 108

128 - 327 (This is not your time to be heard, bit your lip and go with the flow!)

331 - 418

423 - 612 (This is not your time to be heard, bit your lip and go with the flow!)

614 - 710

723 - 929 (This is not your time to be heard, bit your lip and go with the flow!)

1004 - 1106! - This is the best time of year for you. Do as many positive things you can possibly do during this time, on any given year.

1111 - 1211 (This is not your time to be heard, bit your lip and go with the flow!)

1213 - 1231


There is a bonus to this list. If you find people who have a birthdate, of any age, on any of the positive dates I have listed, then these people will have their natal Sun in good aspect with many of your natal planets. Some of these people may have the potential to be friends with you. But, caution, this does not mean that they will be compatible with you. You will have to research Synastry Aspects to get a clearer picture of that.


Best Wishes,
slowpoke


Thank you what does the 1004-1106 signify? Is that Oct-Nov??

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slowpoke
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posted September 02, 2013 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.

1004 - 1106 = Oct. 04 through Nov. 06 of any given year.

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posted September 02, 2013 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one is unlovable, you just haven't found the right person

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