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moonofneptune
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posted September 09, 2013 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonofneptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone! This is my first post on this site, so if I break any rules, I really apologize and would appreciate if they were corrected!

Here's a bit of backstory on my dilemma:

Just over a month ago, I met a guy where I sail competitively and thought he was pretty attractive, so I told my friend, whose boyfriend is best friends with this attractive boy, that I think he's cute. My friend passed the word onto her boyfriend to give the other guy my number, but my friend's boyfriend messed up and gave the guy I was into the wrong girl's number! Well, the guy I was really into and this other girl started talking. Even after my friend's boyfriend told him he got the wrong girl, he insisted on pursuing her, and not me.

Some people passed the word along to this attractive boy (we'll call him John), that I'm obsessed with him and jealous of his girl (which is partially true, honestly). Infuriated, I had to tell John that what he heard wasn't true, I do not like him, and I don't want the rest of our time together to be awkward. But...I really do like him.

Unfortunately for me, this attractive boy happens to sit right next to me in my Statistics 103 class, which doesn't do me any favors. We pass each other all the time on campus, and despite his looking at me, he brags to his friends that I look at him all the time. To make matters worse, we both sail on the same team competitively, so I have to share a passtime with him. When I tried out for the team, he told my best friend that being together on the team would be awkward.

I've recently learned from my friend (the one whos boyfriend messed up) that John randomly dropped all communication with this other girl 1-2 weeks ago. He stopped texting her out of the blue, stopped saying hello to her on campus, just completely ignoring her. 1-2 weeks ago was when I told John I don't like him.

Despite rejecting me and going after the wrong girl, he has a tendency to look at me in class ALL the time. When I first met him, he knew who I was because of a mutual friend. He also is prone to "peacocking," or laughing loudly and acting great whenever I'm around him. His behavior makes me suspicious and a bit uncomfortable.

To be fair, I'm not unattractive. I, personally, have a healthy view of myself, think I'm pretty, stylish, and intelligent. Plenty of boys have chased me before and found me pretty, including John's friends.

I've analyzed synastry and composites with me and John I've picked up on a few hints that might point to explanations.

Here's John's natal chart (birth time unknown):

Here's my natal chart:

Here's our synastry chart:

Neptune Conjunction Neptune Orb 0°27'
Lilith Conjunction Venus Orb 0°44'
Sun Conjunction Jupiter Orb 0°46'
Venus Conjunction Uranus Orb 0°49'
Uranus Conjunction Uranus Orb 1°46'
Mercury Conjunction Neptune Orb 1°53'
Pluto Conjunction Pluto Orb 2°18'
Jupiter Conjunction Uranus Orb 2°52'
AS Conjunction MC Orb 3°06'
Chiron Conjunction Moon Orb 4°27'
MC Conjunction Uranus Orb 5°10'
Jupiter Conjunction Neptune Orb 5°41'
Mars Conjunction Mars Orb 5°54'
Mercury Conjunction Uranus Orb 6°39'
Uranus Conjunction Neptune Orb 6°47'
MC Conjunction Jupiter Orb 7°43'
Neptune Conjunction Uranus Orb 9°01'
Venus Conjunction Neptune Orb 9°23'
Pluto Opposite MC Orb 1°21'
Venus Opposite Mercury Orb 1°31'
Lilith Opposite Jupiter Orb 1°32'
AS Opposite Pluto Orb 2°09'
MC Opposite Mercury Orb 2°48'
Sun Opposite Venus Orb 3°03'
Uranus Opposite Mercury Orb 4°07'
Jupiter Opposite Mercury Orb 5°13'
MC Opposite Venus Orb 5°26'
Neptune Opposite Sun Orb 7°07'
Saturn Opposite Mars Orb 7°17'
Neptune Square Moon Orb 0°14'
Mercury Square Moon Orb 2°06'
Pluto Square AS Orb 2°46'
Jupiter Square Moon Orb 5°54'
Jupiter Trine MC Orb 0°25'
Node Trine Neptune Orb 0°25'
MC Trine Mars Orb 0°45'
Moon Trine Sun Orb 0°45'
Saturn Trine Pluto Orb 1°22'
Lilith Trine Saturn Orb 1°22'
Mars Trine Uranus Orb 1°29'
Uranus Trine MC Orb 1°31'
Mars Trine MC Orb 1°47'
AS Trine Neptune Orb 2°08'
Mercury Trine MC Orb 3°22'
Venus Trine Mars Orb 3°34'
Venus Trine MC Orb 4°07'
Pluto Trine Mercury Orb 4°17'
Node Trine MC Orb 4°49'
Saturn Trine Mercury Orb 5°14'
Neptune Trine MC Orb 5°43'
Sun Trine Moon Orb 7°33'
Saturn Sextile MC Orb 0°24'
Sun Sextile Saturn Orb 0°56'
Jupiter Sextile Pluto Orb 1°22'
Pluto Sextile Uranus Orb 1°56'
Mercury Sextile Pluto Orb 2°24'
Uranus Sextile Pluto Orb 2°29'
Mars Sextile Pluto Orb 2°45'
Saturn Sextile Uranus Orb 2°52'
Mars Sextile Mercury Orb 3°51'
Node Sextile Pluto Orb 3°52'
Venus Inconjunction AS Orb 0°00'
Sun Inconjunction Sun Orb 0°11'
Chiron Inconjunction MC Orb 1°01'
AS Inconjunction Moon Orb 2°22'
Moon Inconjunction Venus Orb 2°29'
Saturn SemiSquare Jupiter Orb 0°45'
Moon SemiSquare Uranus Orb 1°54'
Pluto SesquiQuadrate Saturn Orb 0°20'
Mars SesquiQuadrate Jupiter Orb 0°37'
Pluto SesquiQuadrate Sun Orb 0°47'
Venus Quintile Saturn Orb 0°07'
Moon Quintile MC Orb 1°36'
Moon BiQuintile Moon Orb 2°07'
Chiron SemiSextile Pluto Orb 0°04'
Moon SemiSextile Jupiter Orb 0°12'
Moon SemiSextile Saturn Orb 0°23'
Node SemiSextile Moon Orb 0°38'

John is the first planet (so in the aspect lilith conjunct venus, john is lilith, and I am venus).

Aspects that stick out to me are the interactions between venus, pluto, lilith, and uranus.

I'm so sorry about the long post, but I've been stalking this website for answers and just decided I would ask myself! If I could have any insight to aspects that would explain John's mental processes would be awesome. Is he into me? Or not?

Thanks!

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Samo717
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posted September 10, 2013 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samo717     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

From experience, if I were to have advice in a situation that turned out sour, I would say to you to try leaving the astrology bit aside for the most part. It's an amazing tool and great to know things in advance, and no doubt good to know about someone's tendencies before they screw you over if that happens. I would say, trust your gut.

He is an Aquarius, so naturally he will probably feel like an outsider, maybe that's why he overcompensates. More importantly, keep things light with him. Us cancers do cling, and a libra moon, we want that partner. Keep things light and be a little secretive. Don't give it all away at first. See if you can be his friend first. Keep it casual, simple, and friendly, purely friendship intention. I think Aquarians really appreciate growing a relationship from friendship rather than diving right in. Only you can know if he is into you.

Remember, that first girl could have been you, my dear. What if you were actually the one who were talking to him and then another girl came along and told him about her feelings. He may have done the same thing, stopped texting you soon as something more interesting comes along. Try to see the situation from that point. Maybe a higher power wanted you to see that because of who he is. This is totally hypothetical, but something to consider nonetheless. Go for friends, because in the end, an Aquarius will ALWAYS back up a friend if they value him/her, and that can be more fulfilling than a possibly temporary and heartbreaking relationship with a man who doesn't know what the hell he wants! My 2 cents. Hope it goes well.

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Cancer sun
Leo rising
Libra moon

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slowpoke
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posted September 10, 2013 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is how your colorvision Synastry Aspecting Chart might look.


Planet and color code, in both directions:

S = ego energy
MR = raw energy
P = passionate energy
Asc = showmanship energy

Yellow boxes = high priority position for favorable major aspects.

Green column and row = emotions

Black column and row = North Node = groups of people that you know and do not know.

Gray column and row = communication channels

Black Aspects Not In NN columns = strong influences that could lead to physical fighting and separation.

Inner Box (VE on VE to JP on JP) = the core of the unit, favorable aspects in this area are very good indicators of success.


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What Draws You Together?

S 183 VE - yes, no. Yes, no. Yes, no!!?

M 121 S - A naturally mild attraction.

VE 1 UR - Woo - Nelly !!!

MR 5 MR - Yeah ! (A Cobra - Mongoose kind of attraction.)


What Is Holding You Together?

S 1 JP - The best Synastry Asepct to have. You promote the growth of each other.

M 121 S - Your energies blend well.

VE 1 UR - Hang on! This has the potential to put you on a fast ride.

JP 3 UR - This is a tremendous communication influence !

P 116 MY - If you need to get private in your discussions, you can.


What Are Your Problems?

S 183 VE - I want to, and then I get up close, then suddenly I don't.

MY 92 M - You are turning me off with your wrap.

VE 179 MY - We don't think on the same plane.

MR 5 MR - I'm just waiting for you to do something wrong . . .

JP 175 MY - Explain yourself or stop wasting my time.

UR 176 MY - I don't believe you said that, get out!

NP 90 M - Clear your mind, focus, this is not what I thought. Focus - what to do?

P 87 Asc - I'm hearing it through the grape vein, someone is messing up.



What Might Happen If You Stay Together?

S 183 VE - may not allow the union to settle into a traditional pattern of love.

MR 5 MR - raw energy may need stronger outlets.

NP 90 M - insufficient emotional reinforcements

MY 2 NP - the secret search to find something better begins.


North Node: both directions

NN represents small groups of people, from family members, work associates + boss, the social environments you frequent, teams and clubs you are part of and, all of your neighbors.The aspects to the NN, represent your natal planets action towards the NN, and the NN's potential response toward the Synastry unit from the actions.


MC of just the SD (Subject Date Person):

If the SD is active in public commerce as a business person or the Synastry unit wants to do business activities, then the aspects made to the MC suggest how the second person might help the SD and what the quality of that support might be like. If the SD is not an active business person or unit, then the MC is of little importance.

If the second person wants to do business activities, the MC for the second person is not taken into account on this chart. However, if there are aspects that pertain to the SD's MC, then it is safe to say that the SD may have valuable input, if the aspects imply it.


Bottom Line:

The strength of this union appears to be communication. If you allow yourselves to discuss issues, it is apparent that you will do it with zeal and probing determination. This is supported by the very good aspect of JP 3 UR and this is supported by S 59 SA, SA 125 MY, SA 121 P and, P 116 MY. However, clear communication may not be present all of the time, supported by MY 92 M, MY conj. NP, VE 179 MY, JP 175 MY and, UR 176 MY. You could wined up saying "I don't want to talk about it.". Although, with that JP 3 UR - highly unlikely.

The emotional indicators are weak. Besides the M 121 S, there are no other emotional indicators that suggest a lot of contentment. But, the sextile aspects running down the P column, serve as a suitable workaround for the weak M.


The sex, love and, affection in this union is up for grabs. Meaning, the sex might be good but the potential for love and affection may be hampered by the influences behind S 183 VE and MR 5 MR. Take these two aspects out of the equation and you would be good to go. But, NOT! The energy of S 183 VE is drawing you together and repelling you at the same time. MR 5 MR is a power aspect, it does not approve of S 183 VE and both of you might let it be known.

The saving grace might be with S 1 JP and MR 121 UR. The S 1 JP is by far the best Synatry Aspect to have in any union, it has the power to deal with many situations in a favorable manner. And the MR 121 UR is a supplement aspect that supports your communication channels nicely. The MR 121 UR will help you put positive raw energy behind the decisions you make.


Can this union work? It might, I have seen less favorable Synastry Aspecting relationships work. The individual you are interested in, has drawing power, so you could end up with a lot of competition.

Like, with most Synastry Aspected Units, you will have to work at making this one work for you. This can be a decent friendship union.


This is a statistical report, the Synastry Aspect analysis does not suggest the results to be an absolute given.

slowpoke

Expand your people search:

The following dates are favorable transit dates for you on any given year. You should try and do as many positive things on these dates as possible.

(read as: 213 - 215 = Feb. 13 thru Feb. 15 of any given year.)

213 - 215

307 - 325

605 - 625 !

909 - 927

1206 - 1225 !


There is an added bonus to the these dates. People who have a birthdate on any of the dates listed, of any age, above will have their natal Sun making favorable aspects to your natal planets. Some of these people may have the potential to become friends. But, caution, this does not mean that they would be compatible with you. You will have to research the colorvision Synastry Aspects to get a broader understanding of those unions.

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Jessica2407
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posted September 10, 2013 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome moonofneptune!

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moonofneptune
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posted September 10, 2013 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonofneptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slowpoke:
This is how your colorvision Synastry Aspecting Chart might look.




Hey! Thank you so much for your insight! It's really appreciated.

I'm really interested in your colorvision synastry reports, but I'm having some issues understanding the way they work. I looked on your wix page and found the excel tutorial, but other than that, do you have any links to instructionals on how to use colorvision?

Also,

" The energy of S 183 VE is drawing you together and repelling you at the same time. MR 5 MR is a power aspect, it does not approve of S 183 VE and both of you might let it be known."

What kind of energy do these aspects give off? When you say that the aspect draws us together and repels us at the same time,is it by our own discretion or that of outside forces? Please elaborate?


Thank you a TON!

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moonofneptune
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posted September 10, 2013 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonofneptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Samo:

Thanks for the advice. I consider the relationship unsuccessful, but I thought it had some great potential for astrological research. You're right, though- he's too Aquarian for me.

Jessica:

Thank you!

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slowpoke
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posted September 11, 2013 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry Aspect, Sun opposition VE represents an involuntary influence that causes you two to be attracted to one another, but when you try to get together for social affairs, both of you will feel a kinda rebuffing force between you. You may not be aware of it, but it is there. And it is this force that creates a reason for not doing more together.

This is like trying to put a positive and positive end of two magnets together. No matter how hard you try to press them together, there is that constant force repelling them.

Synastry Aspect, MR conjunct MR. This is an aspect that is more prone to breaking up a union than being beneficial to it. This is raw energy vs. raw energy, where both individuals take issue with the things that each other does. And this can lead to physical fights.

There is a positive element to MR conjunct MR, it can be the power that can have both individuals doing extraordinary things together. But, for this to happen, the rest of the Synastry chart should have many many favorable aspects that support the individuals working together and getting along together. Otherwise, it will only be a matter of time before the destructive influence of MR conjunct MR takes hold. In your case, the S opp. VE, MY sqr. M, MY opp. VE, JP opp. MY, UR opp. MY and, P sqr. Asc are all major aspects that would enhance the MR conj. MR stressful influence.

The Colorvision Synastry Aspecting download has the instructions with it.
http://risingpeople.wix.com/synastry-aspecting

click on

"Full Explainations Can Be Found Here"

Once you some idea of how it works, you can get a free tool that allows you to do as many Synastry Aspecting Charts as you like.
http://risingpeople.wix.com/synastry-aspecting#!in-the-closet-astro-tools/c1s43

click

"Make up to 3 Colorvision Synastry Charts with anyone!"

slowpoke

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moonofneptune
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posted September 16, 2013 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonofneptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! I'll definitely take a look!

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