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lotus_flower
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posted September 15, 2013 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotus_flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone!

Asking for some insight into this situation. Would gladly trade and do a tarot reading in exchange!

I posted about this months and months ago, and by chance happened upon this persons birthday information.

I looked at the charts curiously, just to see if there was something there that might explain my feelings (which went on for a long time). Anyway, I thought I was "in love" with this person and it became an unrequited thing for me. I couldn't shake the feelings for months and months. I had never felt this way about anyone before. Well, it turns out it was a waste of feelings; but I'd still like to get some answers astrologically.

Anyone care to provide some insight.....in the meantime, let me go find my cards! :-)

(By the way, I don't have the birth time....)

Also, I am the one on the outside (Moon in Taurus)

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Twirl
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posted September 15, 2013 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Helllllooo you are back

Right, still don't know much about astrology, so hope someone else steps in.
You do have the Pluto-Mars connection there (took me about a zillion years to get over a BF with whom I had this conjunction). I'm not sure what pluto conjunct pluto does. In all the 'intense connections' I had, Pluto played a major role. And here it's all happening in the 5th of attraction.., http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.nl/2012/01/mars-pluto-synastry.html?m=1
Oh, and your pluto squares his Venus: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130730133925AALQhZV

He also has the moon in your 12th which makes you feel he can fully understand you & his Cheiron is conjuct your moon. Not sure what that does, but I did notice that with people's Cheiron in your 12th you can 'heal them'/'help them heal'. Perhaps you also had the feeling he could heal your emotions?
Just brainstorming here.
And then there's all the attraction with his planets that fall into your 7th of relationships including the Neptune connection (effects like The Moon in Tarot).

Just some thoughts. Don't take me too seriously. Hope someone else will reply

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slowpoke
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posted September 16, 2013 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lotus_flower

This is how your colorvision Synastry Aspecting Chart might look.


Planet and color code, in both directions:

S = ego energy
MR = raw energy
P = passionate energy
Asc = showmanship energy

Yellow boxes = high priority position for favorable major aspects.

Green column and row = emotions

Black column and row = North Node = groups of people that you know and do not know.

Gray column and row = communication channels

Black Aspects Not In NN columns = strong influences that could lead to physical fighting and separation.

Inner Box (VE on VE to JP on JP) = the core of the unit, favorable aspects in this area are very good indicators of success.


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What Draws You Together?

MR 90 VE - instant sexual attraction, sex becomes distasteful.

MR 4 P - power player aspect, instant passionate stimulus, benefits are based on supporting aspects.

P 122 Asc - something moves when you first meet, over time your personal universes expand.



What Is Holding You Together?

MR 121 Asc - similar to S 120 M, the individuals are willing to do things together.

JP 1 NP - a high potential to appreciated mystical subjects, but can be mislead, if the supporting aspects suggest stresses.

P 122 Asc - the potential here, is an undercurrent of trust and physical awareness.

JP 180 Asc - the key word for any Opposition is "compromise". If, you are willing to agree to disagree, the rewards may be substantial.


What Are Your Problems?

S 94 MR - possible conflicts on control

S 91 SA - possible stresses related to other people

S 87 P - possible stresses related to passionate convictions over control

M 94 MY - conversations stirs the wrong emotional reactions

VE 88 S - you are drawn to each other, but, the reasons of why you are drawn run contrary to your assumed beliefs.

MR 90 VE - this is a physical attraction. But, the act of sex, over time, does not meet expectations at all.

MR 4 P - this is a power player aspect. Passions are aroused for any type of physical activity. This aspect needs a lot of favorable aspects touching it and no stressful aspects touching it.

JP 175 M - a clear meeting of the minds must be established before the influences represented by this aspect can become beneficial.

SA 88 S - possible stresses related to other people

SA 91 MY - a difficult time relating to each other over detailed data.

SA 4 JP - this is a power player aspect. With the right supporting cast of aspects, the potential can become great, sadly, not in this case. This aspect needs a lot of favorable aspects touching it and no stressful aspects touching it.

UR 90 S - you may need to learn how to expect the unexpected in a down turn of events.

NP 180 Asc - if you fail to temper your expectations, the results may disappoint you deeply.

P 89 VE - a physical draw likely, then jealousy, passiveness and, resentment may set in.


What Might Happen If You Stay Together?

separation from the romantic and loving mindset.


North Node: both directions

NN represents small groups of people, from family members, work associates + boss, the social environments you frequent, teams and clubs you are part of and, all of your neighbors.

The aspects to the NN, represent your natal planets action towards the NN, and the NN's potential response toward the Synastry unit from the actions.


MC of just the SD (Subject Date Person):

If the SD is active in public commerce as a business person or the Synastry unit wants to do business activities, then the aspects made to the MC suggest how the second person might help the SD and what the quality of that support might be like. If the SD is not an active business person or unit, then the MC is of little importance.

If the second person wants to do business activities, the MC for the second person is not taken into account on this chart. However, if there are aspects that pertain to the SD's MC, then it is safe to say that the SD may have valuable input, if the aspects imply it.


Bottom Line:


The power behind your attraction is MR 90 VE and MR 4 P. Your willingness to want to stay together is supported by MR 121 Asc, MY 179 Asc and JP 180 Asc. And, the many squares within this chart adds to the influences of tension associated with attraction. But, once you get to know the person, those supposed attractions would then begin to manifest themselves as stresses between the union, that are hard to ignore. The lack of enough favorable M, VE and, JP aspects means that there is not enough emotion, love and, friendship influences in the union to hold it together, with all of those squares. This union is brought down a few more notches because of the Suns. The Sun represents ego energy, both - in this case, are very poorly aspected. There are not enough favorable major aspects to help balance out the pending ego conflicts.

This is a statistical report, the Synastry Aspect analysis does not suggest the results to be an absolute given.
http://risingpeople.wix.com/synastry-aspecting

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starmoon
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posted September 16, 2013 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This isn’t bad synastry – maybe just a lack of connections that are remarkable. Time of birth would move things around and shift the placements of the house overlays. So his moon and planets might not even fall into your 12th/5th/7th. I’d just say your signs and his don’t mesh well overall. He has 3 ‘dual’ signs if you will – signs that are prone to flip-flopping and seeing things from multiple perspectives that make it hard to make decisions – his gemini, pisces and libra placements. Your placements are more grounded (excepting the sag venus perhaps) and focused. I would assume the attraction was stemming from your ASC and his moon sharing the same sign, he probably felt really comfy and familiar.

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lotus_flower
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posted September 18, 2013 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotus_flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you ALL!!

Twirl, yes I am back. Been a hectic few months! Graduated from my publishing program at the end of July!

I appreciate everyone's imput.

Do all three of you want readings?? Let me know please!

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lotus_flower
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posted September 18, 2013 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotus_flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twirl-

I like how you pointed out Chiron--there is that link there which has to do with healing (and my chiron is attatched to my singleton moon as well as you know of course!) So it probably really triggered something in me.

Also, when I really look at the aspects, it's all me bringing intensity--I'm pluto in the venus square (I've never experienced this aspect). I'm also mars in the venus square as well. Even in the large orb trines, I'm pluto and mars as well. Something to think about! And yes Twirl, I do take you seriously. LOL

Slowpoke--

Thanks so much for the in depth analysis--I've never seen a colorvision chart before--at first I was completely confused, but it does highlight things very clearly.....I agree there was lots of attraction which was unexpected and that really threw me for a loop for sure! How did you happen upon that site??

Starmoon--

I like you quick analysis--not bad, but nothing "remarkable" Yes, a birthtime would change things for sure--I think he has a fire rising sign--he is very "macho" "manly" and he is very protective I think. When I first saw him I definitely picked up on the testosterone. He often referenced being "a man" and he did have some rough edges but also completely gentlemanly as well. I speculate, but then again, I totally missed the Pisces part..lol.

Well, I guess these are explanations as to why I may have felt this way...although I guess I'll never truly understand it.

Thanks again!

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Twirl
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posted September 21, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, oh dear. Not too serious I hope.
Yeah, I remember about the moon of course
Also you may want to look at how much 'fixed signs' you have. That's is also way harder to get over someone... But if this is the only guy you had that with, that is probably not it. Did you ever speak to him about it or did you let it go?
Btw since your reading I swapped so much around & it's really going rather well Yay.
Take care

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