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Twirl
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posted September 24, 2013 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

Just saw that my progressed MH is conjunct Transit Chiron in my 11th house (Pisces). Would that make sense with the new direction I took my work in (tarot/personal development/dream work - (so in other words the purpose of this is: healing = Chiron?). Did this before, but now on a much larger scale.

Edit: Oops. I'm not that sure I read the chart right :-/ which would make this question completely invalid. I used a progressed & transit ones (are the red lines the progressions?)
Edit 2: I mixed up transit & progressions. If anyone can have a look at my progressed chart I'll be very grateful.

Thanks in advance

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posted September 24, 2013 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you try astro 2.0? (maybe just rephrase a bit to sound less personalised)

Otherwise keep fingers crossed Ceri comes over

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posted September 24, 2013 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:
Did you try astro 2.0? (maybe just rephrase a bit to sound less personalised)

Otherwise keep fingers crossed Ceri comes over


Hey

Thanks. I might do that. But now I'm not even sure I read my chart right or chose the right one, lol. I'll recheck it first.


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posted September 24, 2013 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, better recheck.

Though I find that the progressed chart is reacting just as strongly to transits than the natal one.

For example I am having Tr Pluto conjunct my secondary pr ASC (and also tertiary progressed, monthly, pr DESC - they are currently moving in step), and boy do I feel this! lol


However the transiting Midheaven would not be as important, as the angles are moving so quickly.

In any other case, yes, Chiron conjunct MC or MH, could definiteyl have a lot to do with healing.

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posted September 24, 2013 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 24, 2013 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, better recheck.

Though I find that the progressed chart is reacting just as strongly to transits than the natal one.

For example I am having Tr Pluto conjunct my secondary pr ASC (and also tertiary progressed, monthly, pr DESC - they are currently moving in step), and boy do I feel this! lol


However the transiting Midheaven would not be as important, as the angles are moving so quickly.

In any other case, yes, Chiron conjunct MC or MH, could definiteyl have a lot to do with healing.


Yay! Thank you. I mixed it up, lol. It was TransitChiron, but my P_MH is in pisces, which is my 11th house in natal. (This is why I don't do astrology, lol, it gets me so confused).

Aah, okay, so MH is moving quickly.
Chiron is aspecting everything in my natal and in the 12th & conjunct south node & Moon. I read all about that yet
But I wondered if the TChiron would want to make me do this work more publicly.

So many questions, lol.

Thanks Ceri! Just let me know if (or when) you want a reading... (or a dream explained...)

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posted September 24, 2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twirl,

Chiron aspecting everything right now?

Hmm, one degree is the orb used with progressions (at least for the most central progressions) - does it still aspect everything?

The angles are most important; it is a bit different in a progressed than transit chart. (transiting angles might be in play only for a few minutes).


So, pr Chiron on your MC definitely is a big indicator!

So yes, Chiron-experiences might come to the surface and forefront, especially in terms of your work or even in terms of family (it is still one end of the parental axis after all).

So this sounds like a major development this year for you.


As for a reading, nice you asked.
If you have a few minutes I would indeed be interested in just a weeny little reading.
As it has become a habit to ask for a reading before going to a concert.

And I am going to go onto a concert on saturday (musical of course). And actually will also go onto another one the saturday after that (on which some singer will be, I haven`t seen for over 3 years, and just thought it would be nice to see him again - and it would be a concert WITHOUT P for a change. lol ).

So if you can pull a few cards as if I will enjoy my time there, on both or on one of them, that would be really nice.

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posted September 24, 2013 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 24, 2013 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, definitely have a look for your concert after my dinner

And no, Chiron is aspecting most in my natal chart. That's what I meant. I didn't look at what the transit is doing.

Ehmmm.. What is the parental axis? :-/ Don't worry, I'll google this.

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posted September 24, 2013 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No need for googling - just ask me.

IC-MC is parental axis. Astrologers argue which parent is described by which house. But if something is up with the family or parents this axis plays a role.

And thanks:

Concert next saturday is called: Da Capo - Romanza

The one after that is called: Hollywood Nights

Just in case it helps to tune in to the energy.

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posted September 24, 2013 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No need for googling - just ask me.

IC-MC is parental axis. Astrologers argue which parent is described by which house. But if something is up with the family or parents this axis plays a role.

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posted September 24, 2013 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Concert 2.

How will the Hollywood night concert be for Ceri:

I think you'll be really enjoying this concert & very much enjoy how the story line is being 'build up'. It seems it has the capacity to fascinate you & I expect you to think about it afterwards. It sparks something inside you & seems to make you think about your own life and 'story line'. Now for the singer you haven't heard/seen in 3 years I think you might have made him a bit 'nicer' then he actually is. Sometimes that happens when memories/expectations are really high. I know that by typing you this the outcome can change already in regards to the singer, because it lowers your expectation. But I think there's something in this musical that wants to make you go over your own life and what you used to like & how you've changed.
All in all a very enjoyable experience.

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posted September 24, 2013 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now for the first concert.

Will Ceri enjoy herself during this concert?

Unfortunately something seems to be overshadowing this concert & my biggest guess is that this has to do with work mostly. Did you take on a massive workload again? For some reason I'm getting the idea there's something going on with work that needs attention. Something seems to be 'hard work' & it feels stressed. Like you are thinking out what still needs to be done when you are there. Is there something going on you want to bring to a successful end which us also around the time if the concert? I'd advise you to delegate as much as you can and make sure there are no loose ends around this time & when it's weekend, make sure it is that way. Work & refining skills (or do you have to check students assignments?) can wait till Monday. Just firmly close that work door to open up to what you enjoy doing

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posted September 24, 2013 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No need for googling - just ask me.

IC-MC is parental axis. Astrologers argue which parent is described by which house. But if something is up with the family or parents this axis plays a role.


Thanks
Wouldn't MH be the father (cause of Sun?) Or how do you read it?

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posted September 24, 2013 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Twirl.


"hink you'll be really enjoying this concert"
That`s exactly what I wanted to hear.


"I think you might have made him a bit 'nicer' then he actually is."
Oh, I am very aware of that, though to be honest I never thought of him as all that `nice` (how could I? With his Mars exactly conjunct my Pluto, his Mars square my Venus, and my Pluto square his Venus, which conjuncts my Venus, with his asteroid Eros exactly on my Venus - he is gay, btw So much for sexy synastry ).


Nah seriously, he doesn`t matter all that much. I just remember him to be quite an entertaining performer.
But there will be 3 others high-quality-performers as well, and the concert just sounded good.

Though I still haven`t totally made up my mind if I shall go see this one or rather revisit "Evita".
I think it will be a last minute decision.


"But I think there's something in this musical that wants to make you go over your own life and what you used to like & how you've changed. "
Yes, that would make sense.

His first appearance "in my life" (or rather on screen. lol) plunged me into my Dark night of the soul.
Not his fault, but people sometimes become catalysts for certain developments unknowingly.

But apart from being my pyschological Nemesis for almost 20 years, no, nothing special to report about him.

I am joking, well semi-joking.
But yes, in a way my emotional reaction to him would probably tell me a lot about how I really have laid my emotional past to a rest. It would be a good closing to that chapter.

You know sometimes I view my life-development like a spiral. And this partial part of my journey kind of started with him, and I have the feeling, it shall end with him, too.

I know this doesn`t even make much sense probably, but I guess it only has to make sense for me.

But apart from overanalyzing that thing, it is just a concert after all.

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posted September 24, 2013 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Twirl:
Now for the first concert.

Will Ceri enjoy herself during this concert?

Unfortunately something seems to be overshadowing this concert & my biggest guess is that this has to do with work mostly. Did you take on a massive workload again? For some reason I'm getting the idea there's something going on with work that needs attention. Something seems to be 'hard work' & it feels stressed. Like you are thinking out what still needs to be done when you are there. Is there something going on you want to bring to a successful end which us also around the time if the concert? I'd advise you to delegate as much as you can and make sure there are no loose ends around this time & when it's weekend, make sure it is that way. Work & refining skills (or do you have to check students assignments?) can wait till Monday. Just firmly close that work door to open up to what you enjoy doing


Yes, that makes much sense. I am working again, and my schedule is very busy. Especially on friday I have to work long hours. The concert will be on saturday, me not having a car, I have to stay there overnight to come back on sunday and get back to work on monday. However luckily the following week there will be some days off (thursday and friday).

It takes a bit of organizing, but have done this so far.
As for work, I already rescheduled several apointments and talks to have this week instead of the week after. But still of course there is always something to do. And the main issue really will be if I can let it go for the evening.

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posted September 24, 2013 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Twirl:
Thanks
Wouldn't MH be the father (cause of Sun?) Or how do you read it?


some say it is the father because of its natural association with Saturn, some say it is the mother. Some say it can be either, depending on the individual experiences.

In my chart my MC is conjunct Pluto and my Mum is a Scorpio.
my IC is in ARies with ruler Mars conjunct Neptune.
my Dad also has a Mars-Neptune-conjunction with Mars in his 1st house.

So for me my MC seems to reflect my mom more than my Dad, though it is mixed (my Dad has Moon in Taurus in 8th house; Venus opposite Pluto).

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posted September 24, 2013 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 24, 2013 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 24, 2013 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 24, 2013 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, with all these double posts my thread looks so popular

Thanks. Love to hear an update after you went
And thanks for the info on the axis
Ps: it made perfect sense

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posted September 24, 2013 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One more question: how long does the moon progress? How quick? Or should I move into the monastery with the PVirgo Moon & Cap in 7th? Lol. Actually that sounds really appealing to me
Oh dear...

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