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Twirl
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posted October 07, 2013 12:12 PM
  
Inspired by Rainbow, I thought: ooooohh, I want to know this too. When will I meet a new lover  Anyway, I don't know anything about horary, but the packed 8th house (sorry, you missed him?) & the Neptune & Chiron conjunct ASC do raise eyebrows. As do all the red lines... Is anyone willing to help?
I can return favors.
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Ceridwen
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posted October 07, 2013 12:15 PM
Hmm. interesting.Usually we pick the 7th house for the other, but you phrased the question so that you emphasized lover. Maybe the 5th house would be good for this here.
Let`s ask Hera.
Well, if the 5th house applies, then you are Jupiter in Cancer, very strong.
And Moon, the lover, is applying to you within one degree.
Timeunit of one. Not sure if it is one week or one month though.
Your significator is also in 5th house, so I can see that love is on your mind.
If we are to take Mercury as his significator (ruler of 7th house), things are more complicated. While Mercury is technically applying to Jupiter (you), there are just too many interferences there, especially from Saturn.
Moon is not a problem, but instead would be translating the light from Mercury to Jupiter, if, if not Saturn was in between. Damn it!
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NoRainNoRainbows
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posted October 07, 2013 12:28 PM
Hope Hera answers, but uh-oh TwirlL don't u know i'm the wrong 'energy' to refer to in horaries 
until i get off my a** and actually put effort that is...also you will henceforth be called Twirll by me, so that your name in chaldean numerology is 19 (luckier in love and such things) not the 16 of the tower  okay now hopefully there will be a bit of good news from Hera for you! IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted October 07, 2013 12:28 PM
Oooohh thanks Ceri
But I did mean love (as in serious/no fling). No more knight of wands & king of cups RX types, lol. So it's probably mister mercury involved with all kind of shady business, lol.Wow. Cool that you can see love is on my mind. And BAD Saturn! I really dislike that planet, lol. IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted October 07, 2013 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by NoRainNoRainbows:
Hope Hera answers, but uh-oh TwirlL don't u know i'm the wrong 'energy' to refer to in horaries
until i get off my a** and actually put effort that is...also you will henceforth be called Twirll by me, so that your name in chaldean numerology is 19 (luckier in love and such things) not the 16 of the tower okay now hopefully there will be a bit of good news from Hera for you!
Lol, well I did expect my chart to be invalid, lol.
But see, valid indeed! No jinx
Oh, and did I pick a Tower name?
Wouldn't you just know it, lol. Rise & Fall. Ps: I swear I only notice the Pythagoras system. I don't feel any '3' in my house. Just 9. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 07, 2013 12:33 PM
For some odd reason the Tower has been good to me in recent months. He was overwhelming, but in a pretty amazing way, each time. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 07, 2013 12:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Twirl:
Oooohh thanks Ceri
But I did mean love (as in serious/no fling). No more knight of wands & king of cups RX types, lol. So it's probably mister mercury involved with all kind of shady business, lol.Wow. Cool that you can see love is on my mind. And BAD Saturn! I really dislike that planet, lol.
Your significator is in 5th house (of love) and it is strong there, exalted in Cancer.
IT means Jupiter (you) is ruled by Moon (Cancer), and that Moon is ruling your 5th house. So love is ruling you, sort of.
Don`t take it so literally though, it just means that your mind is focused on whereever your significator falls. lol IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted October 07, 2013 12:42 PM
I believe the 7th house significator and the natural 7th house sig are in the via combusta. The moon is just 3 degrees away from the via combusta. Just worth mentioning I reckon. Be careful of getting hurt.IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows
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posted October 07, 2013 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
For some odd reason the Tower has been good to me in recent months. He was overwhelming, but in a pretty amazing way, each time.
Do you have prominent 2's in your birthday....it seems to be really good for people who have a lot of numerological 2's to them.... IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 07, 2013 12:44 PM
Not really.The sum of my consonants (Pythagorean) is 11 though and my first initial is 11, too. as for my birthday: 18; my whole birthnumber is 33. Oh and in Pythagorean my full name reduces to 7. IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted October 07, 2013 12:48 PM
Tower energy can be good.
I try to prevent it though & nice walk with whatever Death is trying to point out..
(Seriously, I have been working too much with cards, lol)Would I always be Jupiter in a chart? Or does that depend on a question?
@jess, thanks!
I keep hearing everyone speak of Via Combusta. What does it mean? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 07, 2013 12:51 PM
No, you are Jupiter, because your are signified by 1st house ruler (traditional ruler being used) and Jupiter rules Pisces.Via combusta is said tob e a difficult area in Scorpio; some say it even renders a chart unreadable if Moon or 1st house lord are placed there, I havent found that to be necessarily true though.
Usually there is a danger of obsession/ fixation or anxiety though.
Well, it seems I can`t escape either the Death card nor the Tower in tarot, as my latest spreads show. 
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Jessica2407
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posted October 07, 2013 12:57 PM
^ It's from 15 degrees libra to 15 degrees scorp, it's the very infamous piece of the zodiac that is a very dangerous place to find the moon since the moon mostly represents the querent. Even if you are looking for love and romance I would still look at the 7th house, and its significator is smack in the middle of the via combusta and is applying to Jupiter exalted in cancer shows you are being emotional about romance or being alone. Am still new to horary mind you IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 07, 2013 12:58 PM
Ok, let me try and see if I can make any sense out of my interpretation You are Jupiter and I'm gonna put the quesited in 7th House, of relationships, so he's Mercury. Jupiter and Mercury are trining and applying, so I'd say you already know this man. Jupiter in romantic Cancer tells me you want a loving relationship, filled with romance and warmth. I think you used "lover" in the sense he who is loved and who loves back. If I'm wrong (and you were thinking exclusively of a sexual partner), please correct me. Mercury in secretive Scorpio tells of something going on with this person. Either you're not aware of something that concerns him or you just don't see him for who he is. Since the significators are applying, I'd say you know him or is likely to meet him soon. I'm trying to study appearance by horary charts... can I do yours? If I'm moderately sucessful, I might try to get his. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 07, 2013 01:11 PM
I've seen a lot of relational horary charts with either moon or significators in via combusta these past few days... including my own.Interesting. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 07, 2013 01:24 PM
Appearance study - YOUAre you short? I'd say you are. Also pale, with darkish brown hair (may be curly). Large breast/shoulders? Small-shaped eyes. May have large hips, an indication of high fertility. Thoughts? IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted October 07, 2013 01:29 PM
Well that explanation cheers me right up, lol,
I am alone otherwise I wouldn't ask for an upcoming lover
Interesting though. I was wondering what it was for quite some time.And thanks for explaining too, Ceri @fille: very interesting, thank you
Mister Mercury is trining with more though :-o
Lol.
I actually did meet someone interesting, but doubtful that will turn into a follow up. & yes, your description of lover is what I meant (it is what it means in my own language. That's the word I used). I have Neptune in my 7th. I never see lovers for what they are, lol. I made a pact with friends who now check how much reality I'm seeing in regards to love Appearance sounds fun. Go on, give it a try IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted October 07, 2013 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
[b]Appearance study - YOUAre you short? I'd say you are. Also pale, with darkish brown hair (may be curly). Large breast/shoulders? Small-shaped eyes. May have large hips, an indication of high fertility. Thoughts?[/B]
No. This is incorrect. Maybe you want to give it a try with my natal? Or if I give you my moon, sun sign & ASC?
Just in case:
Leo Sun
Moon in Taurus (12th house), conjunct Lilith & Chiron
ASC Gemini (conjunct Jupiter) IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 07, 2013 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Twirl:
No. This is incorrect. Maybe you want to give it a try with my natal? Or if I give you my moon, sun sign & ASC?
Just in case:
Leo Sun
Moon in Taurus (12th house), conjunct Lilith & Chiron
ASC Gemini (conjunct Jupiter)
Bummer... it's supposed to be done with the horary chart itself... I did mine and it was actually close.  Let me see if I get it right this time... Btw, your natal and horary characteristics are nothing alike, lol. What I'm getting for you is: - medium stature, slightly taller than average
- darker skin? tanned, perhaps
- long, strong arms and legs
- big eyes, hazel or a brownish color
- large shoulders/big breasts (it's still showing up here)
- thick lips
- short, plumpy hands
- hair still comes up dark (actually points to black), but it might entail a darker blond IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 07, 2013 02:00 PM
I know they used to do that with horary charts, just it doesn`t work reliably.And think of it, what if a Norwegian had had that horary?
the chances are pretty slim they might be darkhaired, or darktanned, no matter what sign is rising in the horary. IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted October 07, 2013 02:02 PM
No, lol.
Oh dear.
Pale skin, dark, curly hair, yes.
Long arms & legs, yes.
Large shoulders.
Big eyes.
That's it on the hits Ps: I think the boobs must have stayed in the 12th, lol
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filleaspirant
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posted October 07, 2013 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by Twirl:
@fille: very interesting, thank you
Mister Mercury is trining with more though :-o
Lol.
I actually did meet someone interesting, but doubtful that will turn into a follow up. Appearance sounds fun. Go on, give it a try
Moon's being aspected by lots of planets, so you'd have to wait for awhile before anything happens. Also, Mr Mercury is conjunct Saturn, which might imply he's seeing someone. Saturn usually represents a third party and when it's aspecting the partner's significator, it implies he's "engaged" somewhere else. This is just some things I've read, though. Someone more knowledgable ought to interpret this better! quote:
Originally posted by Twirl:
& yes, your description of lover is what I meant (it is what it means in my own language. That's the word I used). I have Neptune in my 7th. I never see lovers for what they are, lol. I made a pact with friends who now check how much reality I'm seeing in regards to love
YES, I'm counting this as a victory!  First time I've interpret significator + sign placement correctly!!  IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 07, 2013 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I know they used to do that with horary charts, just it doesn`t work reliably.And think of it, what if a Norwegian had had that horary?
the chances are pretty slim they might be darkhaired, or darktanned, no matter what sign is rising in the horary.
LOL, now that you've mentioned it... you're absolutely right. I think mine worked because the ASC fell on my natal ASC, so anything I interpreted was actually my own ascendant characteristics... My horaries' significator always seems to fall on my ascendant, though. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 07, 2013 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
LOL, now that you've mentioned it... you're absolutely right.I think mine worked because the ASC fell on my natal ASC, so anything I interpreted was actually my own ascendant characteristics... My horaries' significator always seems to fall on my ascendant, though.
Yes, that happens often. I have seen spooky parallels to my own natal chart (or in terms of another person, also the first meeting chart or composite), if the question is of real significance.
And yes very often it is ASC or 1st house ruler conjunct my natal ASC IP: Logged |
filleaspirant
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posted October 07, 2013 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by Twirl:
No, lol.
Oh dear.
Pale skin, dark, curly hair, yes.
Long arms & legs, yes.
Large shoulders.
Big eyes.
That's it on the hits Ps: I think the boobs must have stayed in the 12th, lol
AHA! Another (partial) victory!!! And the boobs might still be in your future... ever think of breast implants?  IP: Logged |
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