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Topic: Horary practice
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Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 256 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 07, 2013 11:28 AM
Hi LL...i posted this original in Astrology for beginners but haven't had any reaponses. Was hoping someone here could help. Thanks! I'm trying to learn horary but still have a long way to go. I asked if I would see a certain person again before I moved. Since the Asc is right at the very end (in the last degree), my understanding is that the outcome has already been determined and so analyzing the chart is pointless? Also, is saturn combust sun or would it just be considered a conjunction? Thanks! [IMG]http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac24/Spritualjourney/1 d526c22-3e48-4fb0-b585-9019e16fe12c_zps254596ca.jpg[/IMG]IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 256 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 07, 2013 11:31 AM
Just realized link didn't copy properly. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 444 From: Sun, Mars, Venus, Saturn - depends on the occasion and the company Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 07, 2013 12:15 PM
Actually, the Asc is at 0 Leo, so there has to happen some things before your question can be answered.I remember reading something about the degrees where planets will be combust from the Sun... I think 17º is when the combustion stops, but if the planet is in the vicinity of the Sun (less than 1º I think), it's a very benefict thing. Something about that... Can't be sure about it, though. Anyway, the conjunction is separating, so whatever it means, it's already in the past. IP: Logged |
start6030 Knowflake Posts: 322 From: neverland:) Registered: Dec 2011
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posted November 07, 2013 01:05 PM
agree with the asc thing...too early to b read (the cchart) ...wait a bit more n u might get a better clarification (awww..i knw hw hard it is to wait ! ) IP: Logged |
start6030 Knowflake Posts: 322 From: neverland:) Registered: Dec 2011
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posted November 07, 2013 01:08 PM
if it could hv a later asc ...i think u would n should hv moved on ( m a novice then,plz remember ) . Bless u ! IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 256 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 07, 2013 02:12 PM
Thank you both your responses! Wow, I really need to practice more.IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1258 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 07, 2013 11:52 PM
When you create a Horary chart you need to use the Regiomontanus House System. The way to find it in Astro dot com is to look under "Options" in the Extended Chart Selections page. Go to the "House System" pull down menu and click on Regiomontanus.Also, with Horary, especially as a beginner, you need to create a chart without the planets Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. Astro now has a way to turn those planets off. Scroll to the bottom of the page in the "Additional Objects" section. The very last box where you can check off items says: Uranus - Pluto off/on Check that box and your chart will be made without Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. It will help your Horary reading by eliminating clutter. The clarity really helps. IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 256 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 12:12 AM
Thanks GV! I tried that and it does make the chart much easier to read. Why does it have to be a regiomontanus chart though? I noticed it makes a slight difference in the division of the houses. IP: Logged |
Tofu addict Knowflake Posts: 411 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 08, 2013 02:13 AM
no need to use regiomontanus. also the outers give sometimes valuable info especially when they appear on the cusps, i would not ignore them but i would not use them as significators, use the classic rulersIP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 256 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 11:21 AM
Thanks Tofu addict! I will consider both GV's & your advice when practicing.IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1258 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2013 06:02 PM
Tofu Addict,She is a beginner which is why I gave her the most basic rules. Once she has that down, it's up to each individual to expand as they feel the need. As for the reason for Regiomontanus houses, I don't have that information at my fingertips right now, but it is a fundamental basic of Horary. IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 6408 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted November 08, 2013 08:44 PM
I'm still a novice, but I'll try... Please update results when you can... Assuming this other person is a romantic interest?
Your sun, he's Saturn both are conjunct in Scorpio.. Scoripo isn't a good place for sun... But I think you both have feelings for each other.. I think it shows a past connection. Sun is separating from Saturn, and Saturn is combust and doesn't have a lot of power to act. So with this, I don't think there will be communication.. Curious.,, Are you thinking or worried about another woman? Or if he's hiding a female from you? IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 256 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 08:53 PM
Hi Lioness!It's sounds pretty accurate to me! We're currently friends and I do have feelings for him, however he has a girlfriend (I guess the other woman you were picking up on). I'll definitely give an update in a few months if we ended up meeting up or not. IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 256 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 08:56 PM
Also, regarding the past connection...it definitely feels like there is. We instantly clicked.IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 6408 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted November 08, 2013 11:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Spritualjourney: Hi Lioness!It's sounds pretty accurate to me! We're currently friends and I do have feelings for him, however he has a girlfriend (I guess the other woman you were picking up on). I'll definitely give an update in a few months if we ended up meeting up or not.
Haha Well cool... I like being right
Well no offense of course... You know what I mean... IP: Logged |
Tofu addict Knowflake Posts: 411 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 09, 2013 12:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Geocosmic* Valentine: Tofu Addict,She is a beginner which is why I gave her the most basic rules. Once she has that down, it's up to each individual to expand as they feel the need. As for the reason for Regiomontanus houses, I don't have that information at my fingertips right now, but it is a fundamental basic of Horary.
Not true. You can use any house system that you are comfortable with and works for you. some of the traditional astrologers used different systems. Just do a lot of charts and then make a choice. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1258 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2013 04:31 AM
She's not comfortable with anything yet and she's asking to be guided, asking for structure which is what I'm suggesting.Naturally she can do whatever she wants to do. We all can, but I don't throw a New York Times in front a 3 year old and tell them to read it, at least not before teaching them the alphabet. Give Calculus to a 2nd grader. Really, it's quite alright. But don't say it's not true, that's just rude. I know lots of astrologers who use the outer planets and asteroids as part of their Horary chart readings as well. Actually, it's funny. I had a strong vision that someone would insinuate I was lying by saying, "It's not true." This seems to happen with Horary Astrology a lot. IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 256 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 09, 2013 12:07 PM
Thank you both for your suggestions. Am I correct in assuming like angel card reading, horary reading is also somewhat of a personal thing in terms of how it's read? After a practicing you see what works for you & what makes your reading accurate & go with that?IP: Logged |
Tofu addict Knowflake Posts: 411 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 09, 2013 12:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Geocosmic* Valentine: She's not comfortable with anything yet and she's asking to be guided, asking for structure which is what I'm suggesting.Naturally she can do whatever she wants to do. We all can, but I don't throw a New York Times in front a 3 year old and tell them to read it, at least not before teaching them the alphabet. Give Calculus to a 2nd grader. Really, it's quite alright. But don't say it's not true, that's just rude. I know lots of astrologers who use the outer planets and asteroids as part of their Horary chart readings as well. Actually, it's funny. I had a strong vision that someone would insinuate I was lying by saying, "It's not true." This seems to happen with Horary Astrology a lot.
GV get a life. It was not a personal attack. I did not read either that the poster was asking for structure. You might underestimate her intelligence.You are entitled to your favourite way of doing horary but to tell others to do it that way and ask for changing a perfectly good chart is not on and it is not objective. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 444 From: Sun, Mars, Venus, Saturn - depends on the occasion and the company Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 09, 2013 01:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Spritualjourney: Thank you both for your suggestions. Am I correct in assuming like angel card reading, horary reading is also somewhat of a personal thing in terms of how it's read? After a practicing you see what works for you & what makes your reading accurate & go with that?
Yes, more or less. You need to study the strictures, and the special rules and meanings in horary, but once you grasp it, you can see what works for you and what doesn't. Personally, I much prefer a Regiomontanus house system than Placidus, but I haven't had trouble reading when the querent uses Placidus and I go at it regardless of the house system used. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1258 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2013 06:44 PM
Tofu Addict,You're an idiot. You're not the first astrologer here to prove that Horary can be done with outer planets or other house systems. No one said it can't. But if you re-read what your response was after mine, you'll see that you come off as dismissive and insulting. I repeat, you're an idiot who doesn't know how to speak to people and you're doing the same thing you accuse me of doing! Your passive aggressive "It was not a personal attack." bullsh*t is so saccharine and transparent. Say whatever you want at this point. I'm sure all will be entertained. IP: Logged |
Tofu addict Knowflake Posts: 411 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 10, 2013 02:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Geocosmic* Valentine: Tofu Addict,You're an idiot. You're not the first astrologer here to prove that Horary can be done with outer planets or other house systems. No one said it can't. But if you re-read what your response was after mine, you'll see that you come off as dismissive and insulting. I repeat, you're an idiot who doesn't know how to speak to people and you're doing the same thing you accuse me of doing! Your passive aggressive "It was not a personal attack." bullsh*t is so saccharine and transparent. Say whatever you want at this point. I'm sure all will be entertained.
It takes one to know one... IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 4334 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 10, 2013 11:50 PM
I don't get this.Why the name calling?? We are adults aren't we? Geocosmic Valentine, Tofu addict, explained his POV and I happen to agree with him/her, no one is an 'idiot' here. IP: Logged |
Tofu addict Knowflake Posts: 411 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 11, 2013 01:25 AM
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Tofu addict Knowflake Posts: 411 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 11, 2013 01:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: I don't get this.Why the name calling?? We are adults aren't we? Geocosmic Valentine, Tofu addict, explained his POV and I happen to agree with him/her, no one is an 'idiot' here.
Well, I am an idiot according to GV. So for an explanation of that I am as much in the dark as you are. I was trying to make GV see that the horary rules she was imposing on SJ were not necessary. Far from idiotic behaviour imo.
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