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Topic: FilleAspirant
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6069 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 08, 2013 08:06 PM
Okay, how about this for practice? We can try to guess the surround events and situations (as long as we know which each significator is) and once we can't guess any longer we'll reveal our questions?Here's mine (I can guess too so I can practice understanding the various meanings) My significator is Mercury, then Moon. Theirs is Jupiter. I wasn't sure if Moon was VOC in this one since it's at 0 degrees. If it is let me know and we can find another horary chart (yours, mine, anyone's) IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 242 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 09:01 PM
Sorry to bud in Filleaspirant & Hanna, but I think it is VOC. I'm going to follow your thread (since I'm learning horary) and want to see how others come to their conclusions. IP: Logged |
imeanj Knowflake Posts: 996 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted November 08, 2013 09:07 PM
Technically, it is not VOC (at least for horary) because the moon will make aspects and soon to planets. So the moon could be at 24 degrees and be VOC (for example).The moon though is technically in my book VOC 0-3, 27-30 degrees, but I would apply that not in horary but in astrology. @Hanna, dearest, I am tired, but if you have specific points of clarification lmk. IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 242 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 09:15 PM
@Imeanj So if the moon still makes an aspect, regardless of location, then for horary it's not considered VOC?IP: Logged |
imeanj Knowflake Posts: 996 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted November 08, 2013 09:48 PM
^ Yes, but it has to do it before entering a new sign. i.e. if you were at 28 degrees and it makes an aspect before entering the next sign, then the moon is not considered VOC. HOWEVER, different people have differing opinions on this. The moon at 0-3 degrees can be considered VOC - I would look at the chart as a whole to determine. It is similar to when the ascendant is 0-3 there just really is not enough information at the time to determine/make a judgment. The moon and its interactions, etc. are generally the storyline of what will happen in the situation and also often designates the emotional/the feelings in the said scenario. IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 242 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 09:52 PM
That's makes so much sense...thank you for the clarification Imeanj!IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6069 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 08, 2013 10:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by imeanj: ^ Yes, but it has to do it before entering a new sign. i.e. if you were at 28 degrees and it makes an aspect before entering the next sign, then the moon is not considered VOC. HOWEVER, different people have differing opinions on this. The moon at 0-3 degrees can be considered VOC - I would look at the chart as a whole to determine. It is similar to when the ascendant is 0-3 there just really is not enough information at the time to determine/make a judgment. The moon and its interactions, etc. are generally the storyline of what will happen in the situation and also often designates the emotional/the feelings in the said scenario.
"If you were at 28 degrees and it makes an aspect before entering the next sign…" Say the Moon is in Virgo at that, and opposing Jupiter. It's not VOC because it's making an aspect? I thought VOC meant it won't make another aspect before it changes into another sign (Libra)? Personally, when I saw the Moon was at 0 degrees in this chart I didn't really like it or want to read the chart. 0 degrees seems pointless just like when the ASC is 0-3 degrees. But the concept of reading seemed like a fun idea and a better way to practice horary rather than just asking questions and doing the same thing over and over again. In fact, this thread can be a sounding board for people who'd like their horary chart read (as long as you don't tell us your question first. ) IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 242 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 08, 2013 10:35 PM
That's a great idea! This thread sounds fun, thanks for thinking it up H.IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 242 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 09, 2013 12:47 AM
Here's my practice chart! Are we supposed to give the significators? Or are we guessing those too? IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 242 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 09, 2013 12:51 AM
Sorry just re-read the "rules". I'm mercury & they're Venus.IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 242 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 09, 2013 01:22 AM
@ Hanna My guess would be that once mercury goes direct the answer is yes. Does this have to do with a co-worker by any chance? Also, I think it might have to do with lust/sex since the moon is in 8th?IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 793 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 09, 2013 01:23 AM
I don't know if it makes any difference, but we have three Stationary Planets here; all in Water.( Jupiter, Neptune and Mercury.) With Jupiter in Exaltation and Neptune Domicile.Well, at least Mercury will be at around three in the afternoon. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 417 From: South America Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 09, 2013 06:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Spritualjourney: Sorry just re-read the "rules". I'm mercury & they're Venus.
Just to clarify: is this a H3 matter? That's the only way the quesited is Venus...
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filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 417 From: South America Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 09, 2013 06:27 AM
Also, I realize this is a stupid question, but can someone teach me how to see if the Moon is going to make an aspect it hasn't done yet? I understand the rules around VOC Moon, I just can't determine when it is so.Hence why I stir away from saying anything on it, unless it's a significator. Obviously I skipped my astrology lessons and went straight into the horary ones... What a dumb thing to do IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6069 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 09, 2013 08:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by filleaspirant: Also, I realize this is a stupid question, but can someone teach me how to see if the Moon is going to make an aspect it hasn't done yet? I understand the rules around VOC Moon, I just can't determine when it is so.Hence why I stir away from saying anything on it, unless it's a significator. Obviously I skipped my astrology lessons and went straight into the horary ones... What a dumb thing to do
Haha, well I think (and it's me assuming) you can tell if it will aspect if it's in between other planets, or there's planets opposing it. So, say Moon is in the 5th house, there's nothing in the 6th house and then Venus is in the 7th. You know Moon will at least be sextile Venus, BUT once it changes from 5th House (Leo, for example) to 6th house Virgo, it won't aspect Venus anymore. Likewise can be said if there are any planets opposing the side the Moon is in. Can't guarantee it will form an opposition aspect, but if there's no other planets around at the time of transition then most likely that's it's last aspect. Make sense? Or was I rambling?
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6069 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 09, 2013 08:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Spritualjourney: Sorry just re-read the "rules". I'm mercury & they're Venus.
They would actually be Jupiter since Pisces is the DSC! IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6069 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 09, 2013 08:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Spritualjourney: @ Hanna My guess would be that once mercury goes direct the answer is yes. Does this have to do with a co-worker by any chance? Also, I think it might have to do with lust/sex since the moon is in 8th?
It's not a co-worker because we're using the 7H as their significator, so like yours, it's someone I have a relationship with (note: relationship doesn't always mean romantic, but if it was a co-worker we'd use the 6th… I think…) IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6069 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 09, 2013 09:07 AM
@SpiritualJourney -So far about your chart - Mercury and Jupiter are not aspecting, nor are Moon and Jupiter. Sun is trine Jupiter though, and Jupiter is trine Saturn, while Moon is squaring Mercury. Based on that, I think the other person is in a stable place, or may be unusually serious or cold during this time and is overconfident (I want to say overconfident about how you feel about them, but I don't have anything astrological to support that). You were hiding your feelings before and are now ready to be open about them? Perhaps obsessing a little bit? I wonder what it means if the other significator is aspected heavier than the asker's significator? IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 242 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 09, 2013 11:06 AM
@ Filleaspirant & Hanna: Yes my chart is a 3rd house matterIP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 242 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 09, 2013 11:35 AM
@hanna Your interpretation makes sense if I had asked my original question (the one I thought of then switched to the Q I used). I thought it was a co-worker since the sun is in 6th but I think I was confusing horary with SR (focus of chart). The sun in horary is doesn't give you further indication if the relationship type in horary? IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 417 From: South America Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 09, 2013 11:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Haha, well I think (and it's me assuming) you can tell if it will aspect if it's in between other planets, or there's planets opposing it. So, say Moon is in the 5th house, there's nothing in the 6th house and then Venus is in the 7th. You know Moon will at least be sextile Venus, BUT once it changes from 5th House (Leo, for example) to 6th house Virgo, it won't aspect Venus anymore. Likewise can be said if there are any planets opposing the side the Moon is in. Can't guarantee it will form an opposition aspect, but if there's no other planets around at the time of transition then most likely that's it's last aspect. Make sense? Or was I rambling?
Makes sense, but the thing I want to know is how to calculate if the Moon is going to do another aspect before leaving the sign it's in when she is in the late degrees of said sign. If Moon is in the earlier degrees or even in the middle, I know it's gonna aspect something eventually... I want to know how to read it when it's in the later degrees. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 417 From: South America Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 09, 2013 11:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Spritualjourney: @ Filleaspirant & Hanna: Yes my chart is a 3rd house matter
quote: Siblings, relatives, neighbours. Short journeys. Schooling, early education. Cars. Personal communication, letters, emails, advice. Gossip, rumours, news.
Which one is it? I'm a bit busy atm, so guess-work will have to be scheduled to a later date, if you guys don't mind... IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6069 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 09, 2013 11:58 AM
Not at all! This isn't a hard ass thing, just something to learn and pass the time with. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 417 From: South America Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 09, 2013 12:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Not at all! This isn't a hard ass thing, just something to learn and pass the time with.
If you want, tell me your question and I'll read the chart, going step by step so you can see how I'm doing. Like I said, bit busy atm, so I'll do this later (in the evening, more like). IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney Knowflake Posts: 242 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 09, 2013 12:03 PM
@filleaspirant: Personal communication
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