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Topic: Horary help, please @Jess, Hera, Tofu, etc.
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imeanj
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posted December 14, 2013 01:48 PM
  
I am getting that he has feelings, but that a relationship may be hindered by Saturn. Even though Moon and Jupiter aspect in the end it may not work out because of the Rx. No contacts between, Mercury and Jupiter primary signifiers. However, aspects with moon - though no mutual reception...and also a moon/Sun square. Please do not quote, just want feedback and more details if anyone can see something I've missed. Thanks!  IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney
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posted December 14, 2013 01:59 PM
Hi ImeanJ,
Sorry I don't have any feedback but do have some questions about your chart, if you wouldn't mind helping.
1) What is the significance of moon conjunct DC? Moon is your secondary sig so does that mean that you are focused on relationships? Or would that mean a good thing when signifcator of 1 person is in other person's house?
2) There is a grand trine with moon, and jupiter (him) and saturn. Is this not a good thing?Thanks! IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted December 14, 2013 02:19 PM
No worries, I like to discuss horary. 1 - Um, I think the DC/Moon is strong, but people have varying opinions on how the ascendant, DC, IC, and MC work and if an aspect means yes/no. In personal experience and from reading, it is usually good. In this case, I was not totally sure because I think it is applying, but not completely 100%. Also, I think we would prefer him to be in the 1st house, "The 1st house ruler in the 7th suggests the querent is the more ardent of the two. Conversely, the 7th house ruler in the 1st shows the quesited to be most keen." http://www.skyscript.co.uk/relationships.html EDIT: Though Mars in 1st House is a good sign - means immediate action, but it could be someone else too. Eek, so hard to read your own charts. 2 - The trines and stuff usually mean that things are good, but I haven't really gotten into pattern aspects in horary. Though I know what they mean in synastry and composites. Someone told me that's just a reflection of the situation or how life is going... Finally, it does look good, but Saturn is usually considered a malefic, and I am not clear if it can then be used for a translation of light. Also, Jupiter is retrograde, so the queisted it could be he is not necessarily thinking clearly or will change his mind? Likewise, within the trine, Moon and Saturn are peregrine, only Jupiter is exalted. Extra - I just noticed that Jupiter is in the 11th House - just friends? Technically its in his 5th House. UGH, sometimes when you look at a chart too much, everything just becomes wonky - that's why you guys are great! Thanks for your comments - not sure we got anywhere further, but again these discussions helps us all learn. HUG! IP: Logged |
Spritualjourney
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posted December 14, 2013 02:47 PM
Thank you for sharing your wisdom!. Ahh so many factors to consider...just when I thought I was starting to understand horary lol. Practice practice. Haha I totally get how reading for yourself is confusing! IP: Logged |
Tofu addict
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posted December 14, 2013 02:49 PM
Imeanj, can you put in the POF and also the coordinates of where you live or the place, I like to run the chart on my own softwareIP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows
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posted December 14, 2013 03:06 PM
If imeanj does not want to put her location (which is understandable given the amount of shameless and rude stalkers who come by these forums at times)then i think if you email Randall, and ask him to pass your email to tofu addict in private, he'll do it if he's free. No emails on these forums* **alternatively if you both email me, (find my moderating email on one of the forums i moderate, then i will pass it to each other, and you can go on with your readings from there.) IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted December 14, 2013 03:14 PM
Thanks @Tofu and @Rainbow - will email Rainbow!IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows
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posted December 14, 2013 03:32 PM
Great, okay you guys let me know when you've sent your emails!IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted December 14, 2013 03:52 PM
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imeanj
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posted December 14, 2013 04:34 PM
@Rainbow - email sent!IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted December 15, 2013 02:03 PM
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Tofu addict
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posted December 16, 2013 12:39 AM
Thnks IMeanj, you can delete.IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted December 16, 2013 12:50 AM
There is mutual reception between moon and Jupiter. Moon in pisces, Jupiter in Cancer, and Moon in the 7th house tightly conjunct the DSC. Am a little stumped on the moon in the 7th house, does it mean that the querent wants an romantic long term relationship with the quesited or does it mean that the quesited is thinking about the querent. I had moon in the 7th house too in a horary chart I recently casted. There is one huge trine in this chart Imeanj, with moon-saturn-Jupiter. Hmm why do you say there is no mutual reception imeanj??? am confused. you are being received by sag in his 9th turned house, he is being received in the terms of Mercury. am i getting this wrong? IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted December 16, 2013 12:53 AM
^ so are you giving me a yes?  IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted December 16, 2013 12:56 AM
Huh, your question was how does he feel.I think he is in love with you.there is mutual reception, although Sun is squaring moon,do you guys have some issues to sort out? EDIT: I think there is though. Is he someone from another country? IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted December 16, 2013 12:59 AM
We are just friends and it's driving me and him nuts. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted December 16, 2013 01:02 AM
This is a powerful mutual reception Imeanj, but I don't think there will be contact, like concrete contact YET. This guy is in love with you and you are in love with him, but I don't see contact. or may be am wrong :/ BUT watch out for that moon sq sun! IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted December 16, 2013 01:02 AM
Don't worry, @Tofu will come back with something...Thanks Jess. Good luck with your situation. It's about time we both found LOVE! IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted December 16, 2013 01:07 AM
awww thank you sweetie!! wish so for you too! strong mutual receptions are really important it means that the people involved can work wonders to make things happen! GOOD LUCK TO YOU! IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted December 16, 2013 01:14 AM
No reception for the Moon and Jupiter though....EDIT: ^ big oops on my part! Brain is wonky. IP: Logged |
Tofu addict
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posted December 16, 2013 01:16 AM
Okay, first off, i’d say he likes you and has feelings for you. In relation to reception of the main significators of the first and seventh house, Mercury, you, in detriment and Jupiter , him, in exaltation are in reception by Ruler-Term, they are not in aspect though.
The Moon makes an effort to translates from Mercury to Jupiter, but hits on Saturn first before it reaches Jupiter. Like you already said yourself, Saturn seems in the way, but this could be very well a delay instead of a no. Saturn is the ruler of the 5th, and it fits the theme of course.
Venus and the Sun are both on a critical degree, Venus being your co-significator and the Sun being his co-significator , so emotions are hard to balance. He is in your 11th house, friendship.
Moon-Jupiter : reception by Ruler-Ruler, Ruler –Trip, Ruler-Term. I think he is dealing with emotional stuff at present, Chiron and the Moon near the cusp or in the 7th house and Jupiter R.
Be a good friend for him right now, and then take it step by step ( with Mars in your house you might be impatient, but Mars is also on a crititcal degree . and in detriment so it not in the best position) and something can very well develop into a relationship. The chart shows good potential for that.
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imeanj
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posted December 16, 2013 01:29 AM
Thank you @Tofu/@Jess - will keep you guys updated as it develops. IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted December 16, 2013 06:22 PM
We just had a 'talk' to clarify things. He wanted to know how I felt, but gave away nothing about how he felt and also said he didn't want anything because of conflicts of interest. IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted December 20, 2013 11:58 AM
Have been spending day in and day out together. Things are awesome the way they are - slow and steady wins the race. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted December 21, 2013 12:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by imeanj:
Have been spending day in and day out together. Things are awesome the way they are - slow and steady wins the race.
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