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Topic: Karmic?
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coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 292
From: California
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posted December 29, 2013 05:15 PM
  
My chart  . His Chart  Synastry 
Composite
I basically know nothing of karmic astrology. But I can guarantee you there is SOMETHING here. I have a theory but I don't want to plant ideas!
Hint, my north node is scorpio, south node taurus. IP: Logged |
Twirl
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posted December 29, 2013 05:59 PM
Intrigued by the fact you both have your sun lighting up the others 12th; shedding light to subconscious patterns/behaviours.
Possibly also a karmic bond? I'm not sure, but I like the Sun in 12, because it makes it feel comfortable with stuff you aren't clear about yourself.
Also a lot going on with the ASC. Why don't you put in the Vertex? Apparently that can bring even more clarity. Don't know much about this though...
Also intrigued by your Chiron in his 12th. I think that may indicate he has the ability to help you heal/come to terms with certain patterns or vice versa. Hope someone else responds too :-) IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 292
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posted December 29, 2013 09:12 PM
Thank you Twirl. I appreciate you taking time to look at it. Its funny you say that.Ive always had issues with physical touch and hes the only person i am comfortable touching. To the point i want it, and it makes me feel at home. I wonder if thats the 12th house stuff. IP: Logged |
coolingembers
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posted December 30, 2013 02:59 PM
Bump...IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 30, 2013 03:03 PM
Since WHEN planets in 12th house synastry makes the couple comfortable?
If you were killed in a past life by your current life's partner would you feel comfortable with this thought? I don't think so.This was an example. IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 292
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posted December 30, 2013 03:05 PM
Uh, what? Is that what that placement could signal...? I don't know anything of chart reading yet. I don't know how you do it. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 30, 2013 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by coolingembers:
Uh, what? Is that what that placement could signal...?
No. No killing. That was a brutal example. I'll do it but tomorrow. I am pretty tired at the moment.
You should post the composite chart too. IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 292
From: California
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 30, 2013 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
No. No killing. That was a brutal example.
Good to know . That'd be a unsettling thought. This guy has never even yelled at me or had a fit of anger.. Theeen again, its always the queit ones you have to look out for isn't it? IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 292
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Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 30, 2013 03:08 PM
Thank you! I'll post it.  Does it matter which composite? Mid point method? Natal? Also, my time of birth is accurate but I don't know his for sure. Virgo rising suits him greatly, so I do believe that it is close. I hope you can still reading something, even if its just mine, even with his unconfirmed birth time. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 30, 2013 03:10 PM
He has ho reasons to yell or get angry at you.
Midpoint method.IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 292
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posted December 30, 2013 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
He has ho reasons to yell or get angry at you.
Midpoint method.
Huh. I guess you're right. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 31, 2013 03:22 AM
While the synastry didnt strike me much, I cannot say the same for the composite. You are right. There is SOMETHINGA THERE. This relationship with your boyfriend is a very karmic one.
The fact that he doesn't yell at you is because of that Mars in 12th house. That doesn't mean he cannot get angry because of you or that because he doesnt show to YOU this anger, the anger doesn't exist. Its a repressed one. You have three planets in 12th house. This alone shows that you were born and brought together to clear a negative karma from a past life. The ruler is in the same house and its squaring Saturn in Pisces which is in 7th house. Now, the ruler of Saturn is Neptune and he is sitting in 5th house. This relationship might or might not LAST. The thing is that while you feel glued in this relationship and you may think that can last, the karma and heaviness of it it will be shown in time. To be able to handle the heaviness of Saturn karma and those planets in 12th you need to be mature which in your case, I cannot really say that. Your relationship might be of that kinnd where you two meet now, enjoy the relationship for a while, you broke up and then meet again later in life usually after 30. I cannot vouch for that because the ruler of Saturn is in 5th and this shows a short living relationship. With Saturn in 7th house and Rx, marriage is out of question. If you force this relationship to become more than it is you not only will dicolve it but also you will leave with more karma and more heavy for the next lifetimes.
I see you have Pluto and NN in 4th house. NN is at 29 degrees. SN is in 10th house with ruler in 12th. Something really bad happened in a past life. and ironically I think I was right. Mars and Venus being conjuncted and the SN ruler being Venus, I think you ended things with a crime passion. If one of you thought everything would end by the killing act, you were wrong. You have unfinished bussiness and I believe he is the one who bears some guilt in himself even if its not conscious about it. In this life, even if you don't get marries (or at least not right away) you are destined to have relationship where you must learn something from it. You must learn what PEACE and FORGIVENESS (Saturn is in PISCES) is. You must learn and build a PEACEFUL and harmonious relationship. If you fail to do that you will be born again and live the same patterns until you will learn the karmic lesson. It is a sign why Saturn is in 7th. In a past life you two endede badle because of INSECURITY (Uranus is in 5th), JEALOUSY (Taurus SN) and INSTABILITY (Saturn conjunct Uranus SQUARE Mars, Sun and Venus).
Venus square Pluto is another sign of crime passion. Venus and Pluto are in sitting in two karmic houses (4th and 12th). While Venus in 12th show the love you once had and still have in this one, the SOUL (4th house) is hurt and vengeful. (Pluto and NN). This urge of revenge MUST be cleared with LOVE, maturity and you must BRING PEACE and FORGIVNESS for yourselves through this relationships. Forgive youselves.PS: When I said he had no reasons to yell of be angry towards is because you SHOULD be. But you MUSNT. You must forgive him and giving him the chance to fix things. IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 292
From: California
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 31, 2013 03:34 AM
I just sat here and re read your reading multiple times. I just, im so freaking confused. Not in the sense that what you wrote doesnt make sense, you wrote it well and i understand what you're trying to convey... I stand by what i said when i say theres something here. I never dated before him. I wouldnt even let guys kiss me that i had serious interest in. It never felt right. This guy, i met on a whim and ended up kissing within two hours. I feel this unbelievable pull and attraction.But i did everything in my power to achieve what you say we have to achieve. I was stable, calm , supportive. I was always there, and when he was there too i was happy. But he pulls away, he withdraws. Last November he withdrew, and didnt return until january. I took him back because he said he hadnt dated anyone else and only worked on himself. shockingly enough he had. 8 months proved that. Then november hit and it got rocky again. To the point id call and make plans , and he wasnt interested. I was sick of feeling like i was forcing him to stay with me, so i told him he was free. I didnt want that, at all. he never responded. Silence. So. I am very confused. He is unstable. I am not. He changes his mind. I do not. I want everything , i want a future, he does not. So i had to leave and focus on me, because i had no option. New years is tonight and all i can think about is him going to the party we planned on going to together, and kissing another girl. Childish right? Keep in mind , i am only 19 :P . I recognize it as childish, but it still BURNS. Because i want to spend new years with him , and im not. The thought of him kissing another girl makes it 100x worse. So really. I dont know how this karma can be worked out. I am trying everything in my power. I tried being there, i tried giving him space, and i tried setting him free. He seemed incredibly invested. Maybe he fooled me. I am just really angry and hurt. He swooped in a fought for me, and when he got me he swooped back out. Oh , yeah, not my boyfriend anymore. I left him December 20th . Really did not want to, but my hand was forced. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 31, 2013 03:41 AM
No. Karma is forcing him to go back to you. He tries to avoid what he feels for you with other girls. What he feel is GUILT. He is unstable because he wasn't to escape it. Venus square Pluto made you kiss so fast. But he feel inside him that investing in this relationship with you would cause you more hurt. He is 20, though. He is not mature enough to take the resposability for his actions. That's wshy I said this relationship would work LATER in life.IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 292
From: California
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 31, 2013 03:46 AM
You sort of scare me. Because he has said over and over how guilty he feels. He says he cant make me happy, and he just feels guilty all the time.A few weeks ago, when him and i were just looking at eachother, i made the comment " If you and i met in our thirties wed be set. I love you. You love me. but this is a mess because were too young" You're dead on. I just dont know where to go from here. I was forced into a breakup, and hes running from me. I dont know if hes coming back, and even if he does how i should react. I dont want a relationship like this, when hes here hes great and amazing and he makes me SO happy. But if hes just going to leave and im going to crash, i dont want it. At this rate though it looks like i dont have to worry about that decision, because he seems perfectly okay not speaking. Its day 11. Not a word. Its funny, because him investing would make me feel incredibly happy. Incredibly. Him running kills me. It doesnt save me from hurt, it makes me hurt. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 31, 2013 03:50 AM
Sorry if I scared you. That wasn't my intention. I just told you how the things really are and should be.
Take your time. Focus on yourself and let the time decide. Its the best thing you can do.IP: Logged |
coolingembers
Knowflake Posts: 292
From: California
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted December 31, 2013 03:56 AM
I meant it in a good way, not a bad way. I really respect you. You're accurate and i seriously appreciate the reading. I just cant seem to let it go and move on. My gut is saying hes coming back. By February.He left his things here. He has a knife he carries everywhere with him ,every day, and he only left it once before. Last december, the last time he pulled the fade away act. I thought it was an accident but it wasnt. This time he left it again. I know it sounds crazy but i think thats his way of saying "im returning." IP: Logged |
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