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Goatiegirl
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posted December 29, 2013 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Goatiegirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering if anyone would like to help me out with reading/interpreting this.

I am very new to this and I get really into it but then I get frustrated and just start having a pitty party. I have this strong strong feeling that things are just not right in my life and something big and powerful is the cause. I've read up on Saturn Return and Lunar Return and it does make sense but I'm still having a horrible time. I feel so tired already. Like if I'm on this planet to pay for crap my soul has done before or to learn new lessons etc. then what is the point? Why the struggle? I know I was born a sinner but I was also born innocent. I mean wasn't it pure LOVE that got me here in the first place?

I promise I'm not a horrible person and if I made mistakes I'm so sorry but I'm just so tired of "paying" the dues, MY dues I suppose. I'm so tired.
And today is a good day!

1.I'm super blessed; I have a career and I'm healthy and gorgeous. Warm home, food and family- kinda crappy but whatever nobody's perfect I love them, I'm grateful even if my mom is an Aries and have clashed All.My.Life..My father died before I was born..whoopie..suffering since day one.
I feel guilty for feeling bad given the fact that so many people don't have my drive and fortune. I feel bad for feeling bad

2.I know I'm not perfect and I swear that in my heart of hearts I'm sorry for being horrible and resentful and selfish and proud. I truly want to be a good person and helpful and a reflection of the love that I know is within all of us.
But I'm so lonely. Seriously; I wish I could be in love. I don't understand why I'm so alone. It doesn't make sense to me. I feel the way I felt when I was 6 years old and didn't have a father. Everyone else did, why not me? Whats wrong with me?

3.I find astrology to be very helpful sometimes but right now my thought is just like ..damn,I was put on this planet to suffer and struggle.

Can somebody help me with my chart and with pointers on how to cope with this? Special prayers or deeds or exercises or remedies I can do? There has to be a love for me right? Or am I destined to be alone? I can't just lay down and die although that seems like the best option. I'm tired of suffering. But I know there has to be better days for me, right?

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Goatiegirl
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posted December 29, 2013 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Goatiegirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just read that and confirmed to myself..that just isn't me. I'm the first person to acknowledge that life IS NOT FAIR. It's sad and I wish it were beautiful pure love for us all but now that we're here lets try our hardest to do our best and be grateful for all of the love and beauty around us. I'm so hopeless right now and it's been like that for too long. Please please please God help me I'm begging.
For the past year I have been journaling, reading, service projects kicking butt at work. Working out, reorganizing my home. I made a list of all the crappy things I have done to others and I never ever want to hurt people again. I had coffee with my mom and just lived in the moment. I forgave so many people. I'm letting go day by day. Life is good man. Why are these thoughts/feelings bothering me constantly! It's like I am unable to enjoy myself! Ever. Goshhhhh

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MillyX
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posted December 29, 2013 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow goatiegirl! I can relate a little. My father died when I was in my mother's womb I grew up without any males to guide me in life. But honestly, don't let anything stop you. There have been days where I throw myself a why me blah blah pity party but then I realise that everyone suffers in a way. Everyone will suffer in life but it all depends on your attitude and how you handle your life. You can either let situations break you or make you stronger. I have known people who have been through much more worse than me. My mom for example. She is such a positive smiley person but she has been through alot of tough sh*t and she is a survivor and seeing things not get to her & seeing her smile everyday gives me the strength to move on & suck it up. Life is not bad as it seems. I believe that things will always get better. I also believe that your thinking will influence how you view life. If you keep a positive attitude, life will seem less heavy. Don't take life so seriously!! Live Love Life!!!

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Goatiegirl
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posted December 29, 2013 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Goatiegirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Milly. I also did not have any male role models, still don't. No uncles, older brothers or grandfather. Not one kind neighbor. To this day I don't have a male person to help with like house stuff or car things. Or just that male perspective. Its very sad. But like you say we have to suck it up and put on a smile.

The thing is that I'm tired of putting up that front. That's not the way I want to live my life anymore. Sucking it up. Comparing myself to those less fortunate and then being semi satisfied for what a few minutes or days?
I want to enjoy truly 100% live breathe smell enjoy my wonderful life, this beautiful world. Not just be grateful that I'm not a homeless person or don't have cancer or my village didn't get wiped out by bombs. I'm so horrible I know. I know how lucky I am. but its just not fair. It's never enough. We all suffer. Why? for what? for a few good moments of happiness? for heaven? it's all temporary. That's what reading about my transits and planits and synergy and north node has me thinking.

You know I just thought of a sad thing. I haven't been hugged, embraced in years. years man. I'v been whistled at and told how beautiful I am. I've been called "baby" and told all this BS yeah that I have..but a real nice I truly care hug? Nope. My family is not the hugging type. Oh but I am. I hug them all the time. It would be nice to recieve one and feel loved not for any reason but just because. Maybe Saturn will hug me when I go see him.

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MillyX
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posted December 30, 2013 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goatie, it's ok not to feel ok sometimes. Like you said it's all temporary (sadness & happiness) Life is composed of cycles. You'll have good periods and bad periods. You'll also have good transits & difficult transits. I'm not saying that you have to pretend to be happy & put on a fake smile. Feel your feelings, it's ok not to be ok but don't dwell on your emotions too much.

Lol anyways enough with me playing dr phil here, it's draining as hell. I hope you'll feel better soon.

When I look at your chart, I see that transit Jupiter is in your 12th house. The 12th house is the house of reflection. No wonder you've been feeling a bit depressed. I've been through that. Trust me you will survive.

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Goatiegirl
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posted December 30, 2013 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Goatiegirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!!!
What do you know about Saturn Return, Lunar Return? Am I entering or in the middle or about to enter one of those?

I recall that two days before Saturn entered Scorpio-where it was when I was born- I had one of the worst days ever.

And this past October 1st. like clockwork One of the worst days. I don't know what was going on that day but it was rough. Totally out of my hands but effecting almost every aspect of my life.

Thanks again Dr.Phil..er Milly

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posted December 30, 2013 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Goatiegirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump??

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Rosalind
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posted December 31, 2013 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all calm down. You sound desperate and that's not a good sign.
Secondly, sorry to hear about your father. Unfortunately you have Pluto in 4th house with ruler in 8th house. This position shows clearly the loss of a parent at early age.
Thirdly, you a late bloomer. And you are alone because you haven't learned your karmic lesson yet and I can see that from the way you write. You need to work on yourself. the ruler of your ASC is Moon and Moon is placed in the same house where Saturn is. Not to mention that the ruler of your DSC IS SATURN. You are gonna find love and marry LATER in life.
Now, back to your karma, sweetheart, if you were THAT blessed you werent coming on the forum and complaining about your life. You have some problems regarding yourself. You say "I'm super blessed; I have a career and I'm healthy and gorgeous." but you ARE NOT this person. You ARE TRYING to be self confident but you fail because you refuse to see the TRULY you. That Moon with Saturn in 5th house don't sit there for nothing.You have internal struggles and emotionally you seem to be on two roads. You keep saying that you are a good person etc, you are trying to convice yourself and others that you are a good person BUT you fail to realise something. You can be BAD too. You can make mistakes too. And more important... you feel guilty if that happens.
You are a young soul. In a past life you were very unstable emotionally and your relationships failed one after another. Before getting married and having children you need to GROW up. You need to realise YOUR true value and see YOUR true YOU.
You said you were born a sinner but also innocent. That Mars in 9th house is having a bad influence over your religious views. You need to change that. You blame astrology because your love life is a failure. You trust more in religion but you don't trust YOURSELF.
You need to FORGIVE youself. To stop blaming yourself and realise that you are only a human being. You need to stop seeing things in yourself that are not there. You are a good person but as a human being you can be bad too. You can make mistakes. Leave religion aside and start looking inside you. Embrace the true you, accept the fact that you CAN fail, that people can FAIL you. Be YOURSELF.

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posted December 31, 2013 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey lady


[i'm curious why Ros was in such a massive rush to give you the late bloomer bit she adores delivering to all sorts of people, but this is none of my business]

First, I know a girl born on exactly the same day as you and she's been married for quite a while don't reckon she's cancer rising tho

So far I can say you've got Venus conjunct Mars (like me :heart : ) and this is a cool placement for lovers, as we are intense and have experiences others couldn't dream of. Mars in Pisces is also a femme fatale placement (Edie Sedgwick, Liz Taylor, Marylyn Monroe, pretty much everyone), and Pisces is the best Psyche as well. I was born a couple of weeks before you so some things we have in common. And about Venus conj Mars I can tell you we are very accidentally seductive, possibly more so than we're aware. I personally tend to fail to notice guys who fall for me, they can be in love for years and I'm like "no one wants me", by no one meaning "no one up my avenue". Thats a massive difference

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Rosalind
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posted December 31, 2013 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see Placidus. Or I am am getting blind?

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posted December 31, 2013 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok sorry must be the sky in texas, i assumed it would be like in western europe, on the lobe sided side

not discussing your manners on this occasion

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posted December 31, 2013 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andstuff:
ok sorry must be the sky in texas, i assumed it would be like in western europe, on the lobe sided side

not discussing your manners on this occasion


huh? What are you talking about?

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andstuff
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posted December 31, 2013 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry, don't feel like feeding you love of flaming. not on this board.

i apologised for my mistake and this is really all that has to be said. i was the one who overlooked the house system and said you were wrong, and that was my mistake. see? i'm quite cool to do that.

PS just because you are a late bloomer [you said so yourself] it doesn't mean you have to label everyone that with the tiniest placement suggesting the possibility of it. reading this is not ace. but knowing your love of lavishing this particular piece of info on people, i just thought OP has the right to know things might be less bleak given your fixation on this issue

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posted December 31, 2013 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:
sorry, don't feel like feeding you love of flaming. not on this board.

i apologised for my mistake and this is really all that has to be said. i was the one who overlooked the house system and said you were wrong, and that was my mistake. see? i'm quite cool to do that.

PS just because you are a late bloomer [you said so yourself] it doesn't mean you have to label everyone that with the tiniest placement suggesting the possibility of it. reading this is not ace. but knowing your love of lavishing this particular piece of info on people, whatevs. must be your pet peeve or something. maybe it makes you feel better, but it looks kinda weird. but none of this is my business. and besides you are "never wrong" so really what can one object to you?


But... its her aspect. SHE is a late bloomer. I don't understand what did I say wrong. I only read what her chart says. What she does outside of astrology its her thing. I only read her chart.
When did I say saying that people being late bloomers makes me feel better? I simply don't care. Its their life not mine. What I do care about is what astrology says. That's my "job" not something that makes me "better". I sense that this late bloominess bothers you and that everytime I say it its annoying you. Why? Have I said something to you that upset you? If so I apologize. It wasn't my intention. But still... I really cannot understand your attitude. What am I suppose to say to people? Things that arent true?

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posted December 31, 2013 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) Rodalind- Why do you say she is a late bloomer? I'm curious. My sister is one but the charts seem very different to me to make a connection (at least at my quick glance)

2) You're (the op) feeling this way especially now bc venus is rx over your 7th house and applying a conjunction to your ASC.

3) With sun in the 7th you tend to overly identify with a significant other. Like your life more or less revolves around them. A co-worker of mine has this, and while she works from time to time it's mostly so that she can go shopping. Without her husband she wouldn't be leading the life she has.

4) Saturn in the 5th is pretty hard. There's no airiness to falling in love for you, it becomes pretty heavy and serious from the start.

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posted December 31, 2013 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I already explained why. Its part of her KARMA.

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posted December 31, 2013 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think someone should comment on these? i could but it would be very en amateur

ruler of the 7th in the 5th
ruler of the 5th in the 4th

besides Jupiter conjunct DSC alongside 7H in Capricorn

I'd assume @Goatiegirl you want mutually contradictory things in a person. You want them serious and conservative and YET generous, expansive, perhaps with a house open to millions of guests, these are two opposite energies so might be tricky to have them blended in one person at a time.

so i'd assume saturn in the 5th makes sense, maybe someone older than you could be suitable, ruler of the 5th in the 4th accentuates the importance of family and some kinda heath/home where you feel protected. maybe you should [be ready to] contribute towards this yourself without expecting someone to come round and organise all of this for you

PS karma itself is a very debatable concept and no one really knows how it ticks. i always say life is not a classroom, so you can't expect good things upon learning these so called "lessons".

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posted December 31, 2013 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just because one doesn't believe in karma that doesn't mean its not real.

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posted December 31, 2013 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ i said no one knows for sure how karma works. besides you once or twice told me i should have relationships with older men [who are so not my cup of tea] so really a pinch of salt is never too much when one reads you, thats all really.

you called me a late bloomer and i've had my legs kissed and love songs written about me YEARS before Saturn Return (which is still like... not quite on ze doorstep). just saying you can be wrong thats all. no offence intended obvs, this is how things are, you shouldn't take offence at facts

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posted December 31, 2013 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:
^ i said no one knows for sure how karma works. besides you once or twice told me i should have relationships with older men [who are so not my cup of tea] so really a pinch of salt is never too much when one reads you, thats all really.

you called me a late bloomer and i've had my legs kissed and love songs written about me YEARS before Saturn Return (which is still like... not quite on ze doorstep). just saying you can be wrong thats all. no offence intended obvs, this is how things are



So that's the problem? That I never say I can be wrong? Well, in my opinion, outside astrology there is free will. Everyone should do whatever they want. Their lives, their mistakes.

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posted December 31, 2013 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
edited. none of my business

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posted December 31, 2013 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Goatiegirl, you're form the same year of birth as me. I don't know much about your life, but it does indeed suck a lot when we are trapped in that state you are in, unable to see the light and get out of this loop of negativity. I have my own issues even thought they are not that bad, and then I know people who have this kind of issues in strong ways too, and what I noticed is that it's so easy for the ones outside the box to see things clearly, not as much as the one who is trapped. Often it takes time to truly learn the real lessons - we can logically/rationally understand what we can do, but we are not truly learning the lessons 'till our hearts learn about them, to truly understand and rise free.

Saturn has been transiting your 4th house, squaring your AC before, and now in your 5th; then Pluto has also been transiting over Mercury/Neptune, soon squaring you IC/MC axis. Harsh transits from Saturn and Pluto are far from sweet, you were "demanded" to face your own issues and limitations, kind of without proper rest from them.
Now Saturn is going to your 5th house, soon conjunct your own Saturn and South Node. It can further dampen your joy/light, you might feel closed to yourself, and Saturn might demand you to face your Saturine issues (for example, I'm also having Saturn return soon, and I've been facing my own Saturine issues regarding to my negative thoughts loop pattern - my Saturn is in the 3rd house cj IC).
But I wanted to say this since I wanted to say that this is more of a phase that you have been through. Sometimes we have harsher phases, that demands us to deal with the issues the hard ways (Saturn/Pluto transits making positive aspects like trines are more like facing things and healing the soft ways), so that better transits will come.

Besides, soon Jupiter will transit your 1st house, and that can be a better period, feeling the joy again.


Now as for your chart... With Pluto sextile Neptune/Mercury, you have a sensitive mind. Their midpoint is conjunct Moon (your AC ruler), which is also conjunct Saturn/Uranus midpoint. Moon is also opposed to Chiron. Saturn/Uranus are rulers of 7th/8th houses, showing a focus on relationships and longing for deeper intimacy; you long for it, sometimes might even be obsessively (Merucry/Pluto), and that causes pain.
Also, your interest in relationships and others is further shown with Sun/Jupiter conjunction on DC. Mars/Venus conjunction might also indicate passion and need of expressing it, thought it's at the beginning of 9th house. If Venus is in the 8th house, then it can be another sign of longing for deeper bonds through love. Also, with them squaring Uranus, these urges of expression can be unstable, striking intensively, needing of excitement.

Looking further, North Node, which symbolizes our life path and lessons, is in Taurus 11th house. Saturn is conjunct South Node, while Sun/Jupiter trines NN. I'm a bit confused here, of Saturn being the 7th ruler in the SN (I'm only starting to read more natal charts of others recently), but I guess that it can show that over focus on relationships negatively affects your ability to reach NN (where your path should be); while a more positive outlook (generous, healthily detached - Sun/Jupiter, with Jupiter being ruler of 6th) can help you achieve your life lessons (trinning NN). Also, your NN is in the 11th, a house focused on joined projects of the groups and communities. So I would say that you should try not be by yourself, joing something that links you to others, a cause or group activity/hobby, something you agree with in terms of values as well, that has some shared purpose. Not with the mindset of wanting a romantic relationship, but to learn how to belong to a community, friends, what it means to have things in common. It's not like romance wouldn't happen in that scenario, but focusing too much in romance might blur these opportunities. Romance can naturally happen but don't over focus on wanting it to happen.
Also, it being in Taurus, you can find group activities focused on pleasant, calm things, maybe nature related, things that helps relaxing and enjoying. Scorpio SN and Taurus NN can indicate that we need to stop obsessing and simply enjoying life earthy things more. There is wisdom in getting closer to life and the little joys it has to offer.
Also, NN ruler is Venus (in the 8th/9th house?), squaring Uranus, ruler of 8th. Again, negative focus of the desire and need for intimacy can hinder your growth. You have to deal with this need of course, not simply repressing it, but you have to deal with it not by focusing on it obsessively, at the expense of your growth, rather learn to understand why you have such strong need, and not let it take over you.

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Hi goatiegirl, I just wanted to comment since our charts have some similarities.. I’m also a Cancer Asc with Sag Moon in 5th house, and I have Sun in 7th house conjunct Saturn. Overall I think astrology is a very valuable tool, although it can become unhealthy if we start obsessing and allow the negatives turn into a self-fulfilling prophesy. But I do believe in karma and that we don’t always get to control when it decides to step in and de-rail our lives... I wish I would’ve been more prepared for these transits so I’ll just comment on the ones I’ve gone through personally..

Saturn has just entered your 5th house and there’s no way to sugar coat it, this can be a depressing transit especially with moon there natally (although you also have Saturn in 5th so maybe it won’t be as difficult) But still, as far as romance and dating go, there might be some rude awakenings. I think 7th house Suns like to always have the option of being in a relationship. Or with moon in 5th, if not something serious at least some mutual attraction or a fling... and to not have that option suddenly can be a little alarming if you’re used to always having prospects (as vain as that sounds) But with this transit Saturn will humble you lol. For me at least, after Saturn entered my 5th over a year ago, I was rejected by my long term fling/love interest who ended all contact, I couldn’t go groveling back to my ex because he was dating someone new at the time, and other than that the options seem to be getting involved with immature/destructive people who I felt like I needed to parent, or finding people who are Saturine themselves: emotionally cold, won’t show affection, always busy with work, etc. But of course you could also be the one doing the rejecting as you refuse to “settle” for things you might have in the past. So basically you might have to accept being alone at this time, but you’ll learn a lot about what you really want and need out of romance. 5th house also represents self-image, creative expression, and the ways we “have fun”... So issues can come up with all of those things as well.

Transiting Neptune square your moon can make life seem pretty foggy, and it can be tempting to wander around in a haze or want to just escape everything, but be careful to avoid finding self-destructive ways of doing that (mind altering substances, other addictions, etc.). With moon in your 5th, if you do start dating anyone new make sure you are seeing them clearly/objectively and watch out for deception or idealizing them into something they’re not. Stay away from anything that feels like a victim/savior situation.

You have transiting Jupiter in your 12th house, which I’ve been going through too and can be a pretty dark and isolating time. This transit is about internal reflection and healing though, so try not to put too many demands on yourself right now. It can feel like there’s nowhere to run from your deeper issues or “demons”, but Jupiter here will help you move on once and for all if you’re able to find calm and healthy ways of bringing them to the surface. As MillyX said, there’s no use putting on a front or feeling guilty for your emotions, just let yourself feel them and acknowledge where they come from so they can move along without overpowering you. I think Sag moons can sometimes have a huge problem with feeling guilty if we're not able to look at the "bright side" of things, or realize how fortunate we really are compared to others who have it much worse. But sometimes not allowing ourselves to feel the pain and darker emotions everyone goes through at some point can ironically really hold us back and prevent us from appreciating and participating in all the good things in life that we value so much. Anyway with these transits I've found that meditation and yoga can help a lot in letting down those walls and feeling at peace with whatever comes up...

Also, going through your Saturn return can be a notoriously difficult time, and you also have Saturn square Sun and Jupiter natally. But it doesn’t always have to mean terrible obstacles you have no control over. With saturn in 5th square your 7th house planets I would imagine self-worth and what you’re willing to compromise in relationships will be a main theme. Anyway, sorry if this is way too long, but I hope some of it resonated and just wanted to say don’t get too discouraged and just remember like everything else in life these transits/challenges are temporary

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posted December 31, 2013 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sandra018     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think that Saturn in the 5th house would mean a late bloomer..as 5th house is dating and with Saturn everything takes time and doesn't come easy. Saturn is old, so that would make sense to me..
and Moon in 5th ( by the way I have this myself) means your soul is into dating, and love and kids, and fun. I know I definitely think about love and dating and obsess over it, and why its not happening the way I expect/wish to happen..although my Moon is in Virgo, so I guess that's why I overanalyze it too.

I Came across this great response from one of LL contributors in the past and I kept it for my records to read when I feel blocked. Now, I personally do not have any Saturn squares or oppositions, but have Pluto opposing my personal planets and have found that to be limiting as well.
I didn't copy the name of the person who wrote this, so I m sad that I cant give him proper credit for the lovely words, but here it goes:

"No, you can't "overcome" saturn squares. There will always be times when you will feel rejected, limited, criticized, inadequate in the area of life indicated by the planet that squares Saturn. You will subconsciously attract circumstances and people into your life that ensure that this will happen till the day you die. This is a recipe for bitterness, self-pity, crippling self-consciousness, feelings of chronic unworthiness and guilt, defensiveness and rage against the unfairness of life, is it not???
Hmm. Maybe. That's why so many people with Saturn squares are twisted up inside. But .. there is another way when you remember that "you" are not your experiences, your memories, your thoughts or your instinctive emotional reactions to outside influences. "You' are in fact the being that chooses how to respond to these. From this perspective "you" can acknowledge the truth and reality of your Saturn pain, but at the same time not have a knee jerk reaction to it. Instead ask yourself what is the real reason for your pain? Is it because you believe that you *are* what external circumstances / people are judging you to be? i.e. unworthy, guilty, inadequate? If this is the case, try to understand why they need/want/cause you to feel that way. What is their payoff for causing your pain? The answers to this question can be quite illuminating. At the same time, try to remember that you - like them - are not perfect in your human form, but the real you (your higher self) resides in a place of gentle acceptance and wholeness and therefore is capable of guiding you towards responding to your Saturn experiences with kindness, understanding and compassion towards yourself and others."


I hope this helps some,its mostly our attitude. Nothing is good or bad, its how we chose to react/perceive it.

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"No, you can't "overcome" saturn squares. There will always be times when you will feel rejected, limited, criticized, inadequate in the area of life indicated by the planet that squares Saturn."

DUMBEST thing ever written on this forum. Carry on. Carry on.

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