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Twirl
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posted January 03, 2014 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here it is, Fille. Yes indeed. You did read my lame question 'what can you tell me about my next lover', correct

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posted January 03, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha, don't worry, I've already opened it and am looking at it in another window.

Will be doing your reading in an hour or two, as I'm getting something to eat.

Some quick things I can tell you... I think you've met him, you seem to be focused or at least thinking a lot about romance and you're in luck - he's very attracted to you (he's receiving you by rulership). You're peregrine, though, so I think you're not really seeing either his attraction to you or his romantic potential.

Okay, let me leave my question for you... I've been talking to a new guy (old friend), his initial is R. What can you tell me about his feelings and intentions for me?

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posted January 03, 2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Haha, don't worry, I've already opened it and am looking at it in another window.

Will be doing your reading in an hour or two, as I'm getting something to eat.

Some quick things I can tell you... I think you've met him, you seem to be focused or at least thinking a lot about romance and you're in luck - he's very attracted to you (he's receiving you by rulership). You're peregrine, though, so I think you're not really seeing either his attraction to you or his romantic potential.

Okay, let me leave my question for you... I've been talking to a new guy (old friend), his initial is R. What can you tell me about his feelings and intentions for me?


Thanks You might be on to something, because I cannot think of anyone romantically just yet... I saw just one guy briefly who I thought was gorgeous... But that's it & it's been a few weeks, lol.
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Right, in relation to R. the first thing I notice is all the swords. I assume there hasn't been an actual encounter in real life again? It all feels very 'internetty'. As for feelings I'm not getting anything romantic from him, but I can imagine you make him feel at ease/calm.

For his intentions: I'm not sure I'm putting this in the right words. There's something related to 'guilt', but it isn't really 'guilt' what I'm picking up, can't find another word for it. I think he wants you to see something differently/in a different light, but I really think he means that genuinely. So to just see if this contact can be 'open' again/if there's something in there. I think he also might be challenging conversation wise and/or likes that bit. Like sharing philosophies/questioning things together.
Have you been out of touch a long time?
Ps: Was there ever anything romantic going on? Or did he just get out of a relationship and/or talks about relationships that didn't turn out right a lot?


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posted January 03, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twirl

It's really hard to read the aspect charts...

I'm re-posting for you, I would delete your links just to be safe. Also, I'd post it with Part of Fortune - @Tofu always asks for this.

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posted January 03, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 03, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 03, 2014 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol. That's really sweet, except that this is the one with the original info still in it which I wanted edited out

Also, what is an aspect chart?

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posted January 03, 2014 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Twirl:
Thanks You might be on to something, because I cannot think of anyone romantically just yet... I saw just one guy briefly who I thought was gorgeous... But that's it & it's been a few weeks, lol.
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Right, in relation to R. the first thing I notice is all the swords. I assume there hasn't been an actual encounter in real life again? It all feels very 'internetty'. As for feelings I'm not getting anything romantic from him, but I can imagine you make him feel at ease/calm.

For his intentions: I'm not sure I'm putting this in the right words. There's something related to 'guilt', but it isn't really 'guilt' what I'm picking up, can't find another word for it. I think he wants you to see something differently/in a different light, but I really think he means that genuinely. So to just see if this contact can be 'open' again/if there's something in there. I think he also might be challenging conversation wise and/or likes that bit. Like sharing philosophies/questioning things together.
Have you been out of touch a long time?
Ps: Was there ever anything romantic going on? Or did he just get out of a relationship and/or talks about relationships that didn't turn out right a lot?


Okay, so as far as timing goes, I can't give you a very good time frame, because he's significator is giving me an unknown time, while yours is giving me 4 weeks. Did you get this guy's number, name or facebook? Even if he's not your next lover, it's always good to have eye-candy.

Going to make a separated post on him, ok? Give me a few minutes after this one is sent.

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No, there hasn't been a meeting in real life. Lol. Story of my life, for these past couple of years. And we've been messaging a lot on facebook, talking about some very personal stuff, which I find weird for ME to do, as I don't like to open up to just anyone. He does it first, so I feel like I can too, and he won't judge me.

He opened up about himself and we actually got into a kind of discussion of what was acceptable and just. He actually came across to me as someone very conflicted with what he wants for his life, career and love wise, and I told him that he shouldn't feel bad about the things he wants in life, and tried to show him that not everyone lives by the standard guidelines and there is nothing wrong with that. I think he likes talking to me because I don't judge him and he judges himself more than anyone else.

I've know him for 7 years, but we talk intermitently, but we go long months without speaking. He's always surprised to hear from me, and even said it was good to be back talking to me this end of the year.

As far as anything romantic... He tried to hook up with me, but he went the wrong way about it, lol. I got the wrong idea. He said he wanted to study with me and I didn't realize it was "study". I didn't understand he was trying to put his moves on me, so I invited a friend over to study with us. He hit on her to make me jealous, which he succeed in, but I overreacted and kicked him out of my house. (We were all there.) He tried to come over a couple more times, but I was having none of it. Kept things strictly friendly and on MSN.

However, he did tell me about how his last serious relationship was and how much it affected him. He also made a wise ass comment about my taste in men, lol. He just dislikes all the guys I like, thinks they don't treat me right...

Doing your reading next.

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posted January 03, 2014 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aah okay, thanks. Makes much sense. Basically what I saw in the cards... The 'hitting on your friend' might be the thing he feels guilty about & I am also not surprised he likes pouring his heart out (the calming effect you have on him).
Wouldn't try to take it to a next level, he is not stable enough and/or ready even. So I think you see it rather clearly.
Ps: is he a type to ask for sexy pictures, etc? If yes, that wouldn't surprise me... But I wasn't sure on it.

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No phone number for the eye candy...

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posted January 03, 2014 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Done. You can delete your links if you want.

Aspects are what is applying or separating - hence the A or the S next to the planets...

Don't have time to analyze the chart, but perhaps I'll come back to it later.

I agree with @fille you may have already met him because of the Saturn/Sun aspect separating 4 counts. The Yod looks helpful with Jupiter; however, I don't like the t-square. Also, you are the Sun in the mess of the Capricorn stellium, so looks like you have someone (Mercury) who is super into you and keeps on aspecting you - he is likely not the one you really ought to go for.

Hug!

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posted January 03, 2014 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Done. You can delete your links if you want.

Aspects are what is applying or separating - hence the A or the S next to the planets...

Don't have time to analyze the chart, but perhaps I'll come back to it later.

I agree with @fille you may have already met him because of the Saturn/Sun aspect separating 4 counts. The Yod looks helpful with Jupiter; however, I don't like the t-square. Also, you are the Sun in the mess of the Capricorn stellium, so looks like you have someone (Mercury) who is super into you and keeps on aspecting you - he is likely not the one you really ought to go for.

Hug!


Lol, this sounds like a stalker!
Thanks for taking the time to edit the data I'll remove the links

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posted January 03, 2014 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I think you're more interested in knowing about your next lover, I'm gonna skip a little on you, because I think you've got your head in the right place and you're coming from a very practical stand.

Okay, he's in your 3rd house. Either he's someone you'll meet through family, he's a neighbour or he's someone that works in the communication career. Gut makes me lean more towards him working as journalist or a related career, but if you've been taking classes on something, he might be a colleague or even the teacher.

He's in his 9th. He might be a foreign or someone that lives far away from you (as 9th is the house of long distance travel). He seems to be doing some soul searching or he'll be a spiritual person (might be religious). He might be into legal stuff and even a lawyer.

Unfortunately, he's in Via Combusta and in secretive Scorpio. Even though I don't usually interpret a planet being in Scorpio as the querent/quesited being secretive and hidden, gut feeling is telling me to tell you that this is the case. On top of you not being able to see him for who he is, he's where he is: I don't think I can see him for who he is, aside of what I've already said, because of that.

Poor guy is peregrine, so he doesn't know how to approach you and show you his interest. He's not being received by you, which again makes me think you don't see his potential, but you will: he'll enter your face in 15', so you're going to start liking him. Not as much as he likes you, though. You'll probably find him to be a nice guy and likable, but your feelings for him will be nowhere near his to you.

He's applying aspects to Mercury and Mars, so he's focused/worried about his communication with you, your interest in romance, shared resources and/or his work.

Let me know if you have questions.

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posted January 03, 2014 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Twirl:
Aah okay, thanks. Makes much sense. Basically what I saw in the cards... The 'hitting on your friend' might be the thing he feels guilty about & I am also not surprised he likes pouring his heart out (the calming effect you have on him).
Wouldn't try to take it to a next level, he is not stable enough and/or ready even. So I think you see it rather clearly.
Ps: is he a type to ask for sexy pictures, etc? If yes, that wouldn't surprise me... But I wasn't sure on it.

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No phone number for the eye candy...


I was actually VERY surprised when he started talking about something very personal, after me talking to him for 10/15 min after six months without word from me. I was telling him about my newfound interest in astrology, ended up reading his chart for him and asked if he related to a couple of things. Of course he focused on his Venus and how he can separate love from attraction and cheat on someone with a woman he just met. According to him, he likes to meet new people and have variety. The whole time he was saying that, I was thinking "yeah, you're not the one for me, not even for fun, light dating!!"

Honestly, there are no hard feelings from him hitting on my friend. I had no romantic feelings for him then... he just ****** my Leo Venus, that dislikes jealousy games and games in general.

LOL, I have NO IDEA if he's the type to ask for sexy pictures. I wouldn't know, as even the guys I really, truly like are aware I'd take offense if they asked it of me and I'm very vocal about how stupid it is to take risqué pictures of oneself and send it to someone on the internet.

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Ahh. You didn't even get his facebook? :-/

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posted January 03, 2014 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IF you have another question, I'd love for you to read on another guy's feelings for me.

You actually did a reading on him in late September / early October, and some things have happened after that, so I'm wondering if things have changed for better or worse, as far as his feelings for me go. His initial is V.

Yes, I'm still clinging a little. *cringes*

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posted January 04, 2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 04, 2014 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

Sorry, wasn't home. Thank you ever so much I am giving classes myself. Not taking any currently. And/or maybe we work in the same career... This description doesn't ring a bell yet. Unless it refers to my best male friend, but that will never be anything romantic...
Into spirituality and/or foreigner would be something I would be very attracted to (sag in 7th house).

I'm not sure I am completely understand in the secretive? Is there something mysterious/not right about him and/or I don't give him the time of day?

Okay, so I haven't noticed him as a potential lover and he is shy?
I am actually quite looking forward to the part that he is more into me... Since I still assume this will be a lover...

Thanks so much for this
I really have no clue who this may be. I'm even checking the delivery guy and the local shopkeeper to see if this may fit, lol.

I can have a look at V tomorrow... If nothing happened during that time my advice would still be to let this man be...
Thanks for your reading!

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posted January 05, 2014 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi hi

Just woke up here, but I can assure you guy I described is your next lover, not necessarily your male best friend. Male bestie is most likely Mercury, trying to conjunct you, like @imeanj pointed out.

Let me wake up properly and I'll take a second look for you and answer any questions you left for me.

As to V, the development wasn't a good one... I'm trying to understand what his feelings are so I can go and move on. :-/

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posted January 05, 2014 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi hi

Just woke up here, but I can assure you guy I described is your next lover, not necessarily your male best friend. Male bestie is most likely Mercury, trying to conjunct you, like @imeanj pointed out.

Let me wake up properly and I'll take a second look for you and answer any questions you left for me.

As to V, the development wasn't a good one... I'm trying to understand what his feelings are so I can go and move on. :-/


Hi gorgeous weather here, so I'll be heading out in a while. For his feelings in regards to you, he really seems to be moving away from you and/or so no intense feelings. I am getting it was a nice fantasy/distance thing again. Was there distance with this one? I seem to remember this. But again, he really 'set you free' feeling wise.

When I ask how he sees you, I see what I take as his card, the emperor: he thinks and/or knows your focus is on him & that you are 'tied' to him and are willing to put a lol of effort in to make it work. Quite cocky of him & again, I see no actions from his side.
Please know that you did nothing wrong and/or it wasn't something you said/behaved etc. I keep seeing you go over things like: if only I did this differently and/or if I only change that about my behaviour/ways/free to fill in, THEN he will.. But he honestly will not.

Hope this helps!

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posted January 05, 2014 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi gorgeous weather here, so I'll be heading out in a while. For his feelings in regards to you, he really seems to be moving away from you and/or so no intense feelings. I am getting it was a nice fantasy/distance thing again. Was there distance with this one? I seem to remember this. But again, he really 'set you free' feeling wise.

When I ask how he sees you, I see what I take as his card, the emperor: he thinks and/or knows your focus is on him & that you are 'tied' to him and are willing to put a lol of effort in to make it work. Quite cocky of him & again, I see no actions from his side.
Please know that you did nothing wrong and/or it wasn't something you said/behaved etc. I keep seeing you go over things like: if only I did this differently and/or if I only change that about my behaviour/ways/free to fill in, THEN he will.. But he honestly will not.

Hope this helps!


This helped very much, Twirl. Thank you so so much for it!

Yes, there was and is distance with this one. I'm a bit ticked off that he senses/thinks/knows I'm willing to put in the effort while he's not, yet he won't be open and forward about it. I mean, of course I wouldn't like to hear "I don't want you like that" as that'd be a too big blow to my ego... But an off-handed "I'm seeing someone" would do the trick just fine. :-/

Also, thank you for letting me know there's nothing I can do to change his mind/will. I do go over things I wish I'd done differently in the past and things I could do now too. All for naught, but it's okay. A lesson to be learned, right?

Taking a second look at your horary now.

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posted January 05, 2014 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi

Sorry, wasn't home. Thank you ever so much I am giving classes myself. Not taking any currently. And/or maybe we work in the same career... This description doesn't ring a bell yet. Unless it refers to my best male friend, but that will never be anything romantic...
Into spirituality and/or foreigner would be something I would be very attracted to (sag in 7th house).

I'm not sure I am completely understand in the secretive? Is there something mysterious/not right about him and/or I don't give him the time of day?

Okay, so I haven't noticed him as a potential lover and he is shy?
I am actually quite looking forward to the part that he is more into me... Since I still assume this will be a lover...

Thanks so much for this
I really have no clue who this may be. I'm even checking the delivery guy and the local shopkeeper to see if this may fit, lol.

I can have a look at V tomorrow... If nothing happened during that time my advice would still be to let this man be...
Thanks for your reading!


The description isn't supposed to ring a bell, because Mr Lover is in the shadows, hiding his attraction to you from you.

I didn't mean him being secretive as a bad thing, lol. It just means that he's in the shadows, not clearly seen by you. More like you don't know much about him, so he's taking on a front and waiting for you to show a bit of interest before he can open up. I honestly think you're going to inadvertently show interest in him and he'll open up to you, once Saturn moves into your degree of face. I'm guessing right about now, since you're opening yourself up to finding him anywhere, lol.

I wouldn't say he's shy, but cautious in his approach. He likes you too much and I think he knows you're not seeing him in any romantic light. And yes, he's VERY MUCH into you. Like, seriously into you.

IF the sign he's in speaks of how he'll come across to you, then I recommend you read on this http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/scorpiomanlove.html and this http://hubpages.com/hub/Scorpio-man-in-love-experience-and-opinion. I'm not saying your next lover is a Scorpio, okay? Just that that's how he might be coming across to you right now. So look for scorpionic traits and behaviour, and you'll probably have a shorter list, lol.

Let me know if you have more questions and/or if you find out who he is.

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posted January 05, 2014 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Fille!

I think I'll have to update when that Saturn degree kicks in, lol. Asking my own cards also just raises my eyebrows (7 swords - knight rods RX - page cups). Shows some sneaking around & page cups focussing attention. I want to keep on asking. Do you think I know him irl? Cause I asked where I would know him from & got two cards that made me think I may not have met him irl.. Oh! Hang on.... No. Never mind lol, I'm going in overdrive, lol.

I'm letting this go (breathes in and out).

In regards to your V. I didn't see a referral to other women in his cards. But more that 'it was nice to think of you at times, but not being taken further'. I'm sure that doesn't really help. Maybe you can just ask & say: I still like you very much and I would love something solid to happen between us. How do you see this?"
I know it's scary, but if he says 'no'. And/or beats around the bush (not convenient now/msybe/ not in the right place, know that that's going around the answer and is in fact a 'no' too)...

Maybe that can help you to move past it.

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posted January 05, 2014 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what's on the chart and some gut interpretation, I think that you've met him but you don't know him, in the sense that you've seen him already, probably know his name but not much else aside that.

I can try asking my cards, if you want? The horary isn't going to divulge much else to me at this point, I'm afraid.

As to what you've said on V... I would actually welcome him being into another woman, because that'd make him off limits without setting off my self-esteem issues, but so far so good: I haven't thought "he's not into you because you're not ___" once. I know it's coward, but I don't want to put myself out there. I kinda know his answer already: he can't, he's working and focusing on his own life and career, blah blah. I emailed him this week, about a get together I'm organizing with friends in common and asking if/when he was going to be in my city, but he hasn't replied and I honestly don't think he is going to (gut feeling).

I feel that, if I say anything to him, it'll mean that I'm not moving on, you know? And I want to move on. Enough daydreaming, it's "me" time now.

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Would anyone mind helping me out in the interpreting of this horary chart? If you need to re-calculate based on your timezone, this was posed today 1/6/14 at 4:54pm CST...

The question is "Is he still interested in me?"

It appears I would be represented by Moon, and he Saturn.

I would assume his co-significator would be Sun. Would I have a co-significator (Jupiter as it's in the 1st house, or Venus maybe?)

He (Saturn) seems to be in total harmony, but it doesn't aspect the Moon... Could the Midheaven work to connect these two (through conj/trine) even though it is a point and not a planet?

Thanks for any feedback, be it good or bad. I'm just experimenting with horary.

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posted January 06, 2014 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ltownboogie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't believe that above is a working link... Let's try this:
http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag69/Lindseyc2795/f354abca-183f-4bea-bbf0-59c7b8b78aee_zpsf86d63c6.gif

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posted January 07, 2014 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ltownboogie

You should open a new thread if you want a reading... There are some very good horary readers around here and they'll probably not see you're asking for a reading of your own if you post in someone else's thread.

Anyhow, from this chart, I'd say he's not interested in you anymore. Sorry.

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