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deepseablues
Newflake

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From: BC, Canada
Registered: Jan 2014

posted January 21, 2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,
I've been studying my natal chart in depth for the past few years. When I first started studying it, it was life changing to have something explain me so deeply and accurately (particularly Astrology: A Cosmic Science by Isabel M. Hickey. I have been moved to the core by this book and feel that I have been touched by her works in a past life). However I have never been to see an astrologer in person and one of the things I struggle with is the bigger picture interpretation of my chart, all the disparate parts when explained feel true but I struggle with how to put it together as a whole , or how to look at it objectively. Also deeply interested about any insights on past lives. In any case I welcome any and all advice that those are willing to give on my chart.


Thank you.

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AriesLilith
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posted January 22, 2014 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, welcome to LL.

For chart readings, can you post the image of your natal chart here? You can save the image of your natal chart from astro.com, then upload it to a free image hosting website, then post the link here as following:

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(without the asterisk)

As for reading the chart as whole, often there is a theme or a few main themes that might repeatedly show in a chart. When analyzing it, you can first see which are the main areas of focus of a chart? Usually look for where the Sun, Moon, AC are, or look for a stellium, and then look for AC ruler's position as well.
Also, if the majority of the planets falls on the first half of the chart (from 1st house to 6th house), then this person is more self focused, while the opposite can show that this person is more focused on learning about others.

Also, for understanding what your life lessons are, as well as the quality of your past life, look at the Lunar Nodes, to see where the North Node is (where you are supposed to go to), and the ruler of the South Node as well (which can further tell the story of your past).


Looking at your chart, you have basically all the elements on the upper side of chart, while Saturn and Neptune are conjunct AC. You are focused on the outside world and others.

You have a stellium in the 9th house, showing focus on higher awareness, philosophies, understanding different beliefs and cultures. Forming your own beliefs system is important to you, and for that you need to learn from others' points of view and beliefs.
Capricorn AC conjunct Saturn and Neptune, you are idealistic, disciplined, serious. Capricorn is related to 10th house, house of social responsibilities, structure and image, which again can point to an emphasis/focus on the exterior world related to others (society). Then Uranus is nearby Saturn from the 12th house, so you have an unconventional side thought it is not as obvious; and these these are aspecting Sun/Pluto from the 9th and 10th houses as well as MC, as well as Jupiter from the 7th house. Again, a strong emphasis on others, since Sun and Pluto are on MC and Jupiter is on the 7th house, the house that begins the awareness and acknowledgement of the existence of others.

This all seems to show that there is an emphasis on focusing on social responsibilities, to understand where you as an individual stand in society along with others, as well as understanding different beliefs and cultures, to raise a higher awareness and form your own beliefs system.
One thing that is important is, to go through the lessons of the 10th house, aka to understand social structure and responsibilities, one must first go through the lessons of the 9th house, which is to gain awareness and higher wisdom and knowledge. Coz how can we begin to understand society and where we stand, if we don't understand beliefs, cultures, and gain higher awareness? If we become stubborn and "fanatic" (wrong lessons of the 9th house), then we would also not do well in the 10th house area.

Interestingly, you have North Node on the 1st house, on Aquarius. 1st house is the house of self, so your life lesson is to learn to understand yourself more, stand up for your self. These are trine your Mercury/Mars in the 9th house, and sextile your Venus in the 12th house. Again, forming your own belief system by learning from others' belief systems, cultural differences and philosophies is important, as it can aid you to reach a better understanding of self.
Curiously, Aqua is a sign related to friendships, communities, joined activities or projects with groups that shares the same goals, and find where one fits in communities, so when you relate to others and join group causes or activities, or foster friendships, it can help you understand yourself better.

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PlutoSurvivor
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posted January 22, 2014 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also look at chart from Equal House perspective. It puts nearly everything in 4th Quadrant showing focus on dealing with the public and with emotional/mental blockages. Cap ASC and 10th house planets show success in corporate world if you are allowed to use your critical eye for spotting details. It would bring opportunity to criticize and but also be misunderstood causing many people to flow in and out of your life due to tensions, open enemies. Jupiter7th supports this. You came to learn detachment (prenatal eclipses).

Saturn on asc, you came with intent to pay off much karmic debt. Difficult. 12h planets show depression and suicidal thoughts. Neptune,strong 1H shows feelings of entitlement, with past life of ego/pride to balance out.

Excellent birth day of 27 = 9. Great spiritual teacher. Keep in mind giving love without attachment or expecting adoration in return as in leo South Node past lives, plus same theme in eclipse pattern. You come from being put on a pedestal and may wonder why it is not the same in this lifetime. Look to understanding yourself well, your mind gives you the ability to see the whole picture. Astrology is great for understanding yourself, Urania Muse for Astrology in your 4H of introspection.

Do your job teaching others how to be organized, consciously, and be aware of correct time and place for criticism, not to make others self conscious.

There is definitely a quadrant theme supported by ascendant, prenatal eclipses, saturn, asteroid karma, Jupiter, south node and ancient chaldean numerology. You have the ability to see flaws in everyone, especially your family members, but this is a lifetime where receiving validation has to come from within you, not from outside yourself. You are here to help others adjust. Big job. Validate yourself by understanding your purpose.

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deepseablues
Newflake

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From: BC, Canada
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posted January 22, 2014 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Aries Lilith for info and insight. A lot of what you said rings true. I do feel focused on the outside world and others, in my thoughts and trying to understand this world and others, yet I feel deep inside myself. I often feel I wasn't made to live in these modern times.
Forming my own beliefs is very important.. for some things I feel like I have a deep inner knowing, on others I feel totally lost.
As to what you mention about the wrong lessons in the 9th, I also relate to something else I read about afflictions in cardinal signs is due to wrong action in past lives... I feel all I do is make wrong decisions, wrong actions, in this life as well, and it scares me.
The North Node stuff I find so confusing and conflicting just like so many elements of my chart/self. To what I can understand I am supposed to hew my own destiny and not be so dependent on others, yet I am supposed to work with groups, friends, others...


PlutoSurvivor,
"You came to learn detachment."
So true.. All I feel I am dealing with lately, is learning to let go, to detach. It is so hard.
"Saturn on asc, you came with intent to pay off much karmic debt. Difficult. 12h planets show depression and suicidal thoughts. Neptune,strong 1H shows feelings of entitlement, with past life of ego/pride to balance out. "
All true.. The only reason I continue in this life sometimes is knowing that I came here to suffer, that I deserve it, and only through it can I go free for if I leave by my own means I will only have to reincarnate to pay my debts. Still doesn't make it easy, especially when I lose sight of it. I hope to be able to afford past life regression therapy one day as I feel a need to find out who I was in past lives, I feel I must have been pretty evil/cruel in a past life to have chosen this incarnation. It makes me wonder what sort of lives the reincarnations of Hitler, etc have to go through?
Yet I don't feel the ability to see the whole picture, as you say my mind has the ability to. Especially lately, I feel so lost in this life, so confused and conflicted. So many opposing desires.
"this is a lifetime where receiving validation has to come from within you, not from outside yourself."
This is the hardest thing in the world for me. It seems so easy for most and I even feel bullied for the fact that I seem unable to do this..
"Validate yourself by understanding your purpose. "
This I am struggling desperately to do. The more I try to understand the more lost I become, but I want to understand my purpose more than anything.

Thank you for the insights, I still feel very lost but everything helps.

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PlutoSurvivor
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posted January 23, 2014 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's going to get better. It always does.

And who says Karma has to be bad or evil. This word just means "experience" and you are just here to balance your experience. You came very strongly to balance your experience. Maybe karmic "debt" is the wrong term. It is probably not bad or negative as you may think. If you change your thoughts about this, life will seem a bit lighter. This is where seeing the bigger picture really helps.

Maybe I can get some information about the bigger picture for you. I have several trusted friends who have a talent for instantaneous past life recall. With permission, I will ask and see if anything comes up for you. Life is an adventure, eh?

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deepseablues
Newflake

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From: BC, Canada
Registered: Jan 2014

posted January 23, 2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope it does get better, it's hard to see the light sometimes. I try so hard to be positive but it's hard because the more positive I try to be the more I crash back into my negativity. I have been told by a psychically aware person that the extreme emotional turmoil I feel will continue until my early 30's. That feels like a long ways away from where I'm sitting and sometimes feels like I can't take that much more.

I would be eternally grateful if you asked your friends and if they had any guidance or insight I'm sure it would help. I feel paralyzed with confusion, sadness and lost feelings and really want to understand as much about myself and past lives and why it feels I deserve this. It sure is an adventure, a breather would be nice too though. Thank you so much for the generous offer.

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