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lovelyricha1
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posted February 25, 2014 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyricha1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay ,so the story is simple.

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posted February 26, 2014 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyricha1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody?Please please pretty please? *puppy face*

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Chryseis
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posted February 26, 2014 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lovelyricha1, I don't consider myself a psychic but I do think there is information available to me, for whatever reason.

Blue, Lovel, is a little naïve, though very loving, caring, a bit rebellious, and wants the excitement of living outside the square.

Red, Smarty, is always battling severe disheartenment, which probably chiefly began when he was about 7. Then at about 12 he had some kind of big fright, probably related to an accident, like he almost broke his leg and the whole incident scared the life out of him. So I'm not sure about later heartbreaks but from these two main events, he tends to live on the edge - he feels he is always one step away from being non-existent, so it makes him a risk taker, because he thinks things could go badly at any moment - like who knows when your number is up, so he has a type of deathwish in a way, not full on, but it lingers around and when he risks he gets a high like a gambler if he survives to see another day. So he gets the rush of fear at pushing boundaries, then the exhilaration of the 'ride', then the almost spiritual martyr type feeling of surviving - but generally he is a scared and disheartened person, but I think he must be good looking because he gets a good response from others.

The drug abuse is likely to continue at least for some time because it takes the edge off the disheartenment and it gives him an excuse - like psychologically, his mind says, this is not happening to me, the real me does not have this life - the real me is somewhere in a safe place with a future in front of them. The real me doesn't need this disenchantment - so the drugs are the proverbial escape and part of the risk taking behaviour.

He is scarred, he could heal but he is very set in his ways and so only seeks options within the sphere of his abused mindset. And as time goes on he will tend to escalate the abuse - so he could tend to become more sexually..., not sure of the word, but its like someone who has no hope and has lost a moral compass so they develop like perversion, a degree of violence, and some hatred. So sexually, involvement with him could start out respectfully and lovingly but would soon denigrate - he is bitter. But it could modify its hard to say. The two could have like fetishes and kinkiness between them that sort of works.

Initially, Lovel might think she knows how to keep the fun exciting side of Smarty but without anything too low and too negative, so she might think she can encourage him to live to how she thinks he can have fun but be reasonably safe and stable. She's not totally misguided, her ways are supportive to him, however, smarty is living on a razor edge and has a level of desperation not far below his surface. He would like to improve his way of living life and can do this for short moments but he has such a habit its like a groove that he readily slumps back into. He's wading through something deep and probably karmically longstanding. It feels like there are events to come that will kind of crack his hard casing and modify him, they are losses coupled with learning curves - partly its just a maturing process. He doesn't believe in himself but eventually it feels like it will be some kind of study/education/skill development that will also change the way he feels about himself and the way he approaches the time he has in life. It could be an engineering/environmental type of focus. It will improve his self value for what he can contribute and also make him feel that the world has something more to it than just the view on it that he once had.

Lovel will eventually turn her gaze from him. She is motivated for something else, she wants a glamourous lifestyle filled with all the current trends and manifestations of popular culture. Lovel has forgotten something though, her traditions. There is an old mother with short hair and missing teeth she is little and soft and nice though had a hell of a voice on her when she wanted to warn someone or alert someone to be careful. Her hair colour is like a dark grey with some lighter grey strands. She is probably not living now. The term that comes with her is old mother and is it only like about 2yrs since this death?. She had about 6 pregnancies/births and either lost 4 or had four, I can't tell which because all were inclusive to her - she thinks she had another 2 early on miscarriages, but she didn't see any evidence of a fetus except for some substance she wasn't sure about. It feels to me she would like for you to remember a particular weaving design that is significant, and also would practice making a bread - for your husband. So I don't think she is saying anything other than don't forget a couple of your traditions - but she understands how exciting all the changes are in the world.

For your pregnancy, and I don't know when that is, but it feels like about 3yrs time, it feels like you will need to watch your support on your back, it feels like your stomach muscles need strengthening prior to pregnancy and that you would need the right bra, and you'll need to do exercises like rolling from side to side or something to keep your back in good shape.

Having said all that, I quite like the composite, Smarty thinks Lovel is totally hot, and Lovel is equally turned on by Smarty. They really resonate together and it does seem that Smarty could mend his ways for Lovel. Lovel could still eventually lose interest though, because she doesn't want to be a case worker for Smarty - she would want him to exemplify someone who has more drive, and go in him - she doesn't want to be tending a lame duck. Smarty could actually gain incentive enough to improve his situation and probably subtle ultimatums would eventually hold sway. The culture/country of Lovel appeals to Smarty too and vice versa for Lovel. They could be long lasting, despite what I said in the synastry.

The longlastingness potential is radiating from the whole chart, so it is a dynamic type of thing, but if I narrow it down to some key stuff - there is the Jupiter-Neptune conj ruling moon in Pisces and Sun-Mars in 7th. Moon is traditional and accidental ruler of the IC/4th and the cusp is in aspect to the Jup-Nep conj. Saturn is happy in the 7th there and ruling the MC/10th. Venus as ASC ruler quite likes where she is but is a little temperamental though is inclined to kow tow to rulership from Mars and is in the stellium with Mars and Sun. So Venus here tends to represent Lovel in a way and Lovel's female influences like her friends etc. Lovel can use her feminine charm and ways to influence Smarty.

Smarty could move mountains to be with her, she can do amazing stuff with creating possibilities, space etc to be available for him.

I like it when moon is in aspect to the ASC which seems to always make it easier to tie domestic and family situations and make them workable and liveable. Smarty does chiefly have to somehow get a type of therapy or something to work out his disheartenment and depression - he may do this through self help.

There seems like there is a degree of financial prosperity between the two though their could be excesses and fluctuations - but possibly over time, money management improves and there is the capacity to take on a business.

Though a longlasting connection, there could be a child, possibly a son, and there could be an estrangement/partial separation between Lovel and Smarty - for 18mths or so at some point but with good prospects to resolve it.

If you want, put up the Davison chart from the astro.com options under composite and I'll see if I modify what I've projected from the composite.

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posted February 26, 2014 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyricha1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chryseis

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posted February 27, 2014 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i loved how and wht u read,Chryseis !

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posted February 27, 2014 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you start, and thank you Lovelyricha for posting the Davison Chart.

After seemingly promising more, I'm finding it difficult to provide anything on it though, lol

Ok, so I will try but there is either a block for me or there is some kind of congestion to find my way into it.

I tend to just begin from the ASC and work my way around. So I won't probably itemise out the effect of the placements as they often intertwine and even combine with the natals.

I guess to start with, Merc applying to the ASC etc probably is indicating how they met, so its like one finding the other through like a filing system, but it looks like an envelope that was opened to read on and initially meet the other - so I guess its an analogy for the online meeting. There seems to have been a common food interest and a common want as far as a place to visit, maybe too, something like galleries/architecture that they would like to both see - so places that come to mind, are the great cities of Europe. They were both intensely interested in each other.

It feels like Lovel at some point later could have thought - hmm, I don't know - like she had her reservations, but something will swing or has swung her interest back and it looks like business prospects or some career benefits are tempting her - so I don't know how that ties in. But it is all sort of mixed up so perhaps it is just so complex that I cannot itemise this bit. Then there is a feeling of going back - and I think it is like a dream activity like going back in dreams - so maybe this past life regression idea.

Then it feels like there is crying, kind of from both sides. So the first quadrant seems to create the scene or something. In the second quadrant. I see paper dolls at Pluto of the kind maybe that people used to play with and put different paper pieces of fashion/clothing on by folding over a tab so I don't know what that is about.

There is talk of surname changes or readiness to take on another name etc in line with formal involvement. This seems to change Lovel's mind for some reason and makes her take more interest again. She's doing the sums on goods and bads if they were to marry and she'll be totally thinking that the goods out way the bads - she gets the knack of how to alter the perceived bads - to their mutual benefit - Smarty does want it to work.

There will be a type of argument thing going on over stops and starts to a meeting in person. Smarty basically gives up hope and thinks he will get a cat or dog for consolation. Lovel seems immovable then she turns it around and comes up with a great plan.

Then from the 8th house it feels like there is a different space to the reading like as if it covers large time frames. The moon still indicates living together but I think they both move and it could be Canada. I do think the relationship is long lasting but I have to admit, I can't see the details like I thought I would - which is probably a good thing, lol.

Generally, when I look at the whole chart, I get the sensation of 'inroads', so when I find that two people have this inroads into one another thing, then the relationship is significant and has a reasonably long time frame of knowledge of each other and growth -I guess because each person is sort of triggering and feeding the other and its like a necessary development. It does also feel that there will be definite in-person stuff, and time spent hand in hand a long pathways through city parkland is an image that seems like a definite event. There is some kind of artistic connection and mutual development, and there is an everydayness complete with coffee shared. A female older relative of Lovel's will live with them for quite some time. But the parent's of Smarty are sort of disjointed from knowing how to connect or something.

Lovel has some kind of breaks in her consciousness with the matter, as if she forgets to even think about Smarty. She could be like this even in close proximity, its like a shutdown of input, like she screens the amount of receptivity that she has to people and things - probably a protective measure. But its hard to get too much of an idea on that because its a bit overwhelming to me.

Anyhow, that interpretation just feels like a shamble of mixed up ideas, sorry.

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posted February 27, 2014 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyricha1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh no,you were very good

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Chryseis
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posted February 27, 2014 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely always synastry is important.

I like to get an idea of how much the couple will actually be involved and I feel I get some insight into this with the composite. I thought the Davison was generally showing me more day to day involvement but I found it really difficult to read the Davison for Lovel and Smarty.

The composite seems like a synopsis of the energy dynamics and a balance of how they will relate which I can't easily get with synastry. I know myself that I can have super synastry with a celebrity that I will never meet let alone have a relationship with.

I do however find that Sun-Saturn synastry seems to be important for significant relationships, which is evident in this synastry, and a mark of living together can be shown by the moons being in aspect or being connected by rulership aspects such as Moon conjunct Venus in the synastry, conjunct the MC's and Venus ruling Lovel's Moon. Conversely, Smarty's Moon is ruled by Saturn which is in aspect to Lovel's Moon and conjunct the DSC's.

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posted February 28, 2014 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyricha1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sounds great

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posted March 01, 2014 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyricha1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so i was talking to an astrologer

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posted March 01, 2014 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have had a very detailed reading from Chryseis, and really that was very fortunate indeed. You have two threads going on the same reading. You also know a local astrologer who's said some key things So, I can't understand why you should want any more. Perhaps you should ask about the specific Sun/Uranus aspect in Astrology 2 and that may get a discussion going. Btw, are you asking about yourself?

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posted March 01, 2014 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyricha1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 01, 2014 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why the great urgency? You sounded maddened by anxiety by the way you worded your request. Asking for help with the urgency that you projected should be for very serious matters. I don't see that in this instance.

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