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cookiepie
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posted February 26, 2014 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cookiepie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This what I gained from astro.com. Do not know if it gives the whole picture because I'm not a member there .. We have a crisis in our relationship and I want to know if I should let it go and get the heart shattered into a thousand pieces, or if it gives us more in the end if we struggle through this?

Many lifetimes of thanks for this!

His:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k249/coopkiepiegirl/astro_w2at_02_mik ael_hp5031020385_zpsf6cb8c70.gif

Mine:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k249/coopkiepiegirl/astro_w2at_01_lind a_hp4928927281_zps0c32c801.gif

Ours combined (i think?):
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k249/coopkiepiegirl/astro_acc_01_02_linda_mikael_hp2449961333png_zps6bc73183.gif

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AcousticGod
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posted February 26, 2014 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It gives you more in the end if you struggle through it. Sorry to hear that you're in crisis. You're a strong woman capable of bearing much, and you know what you want.

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cookiepie
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posted February 26, 2014 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cookiepie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you! Did you see it in my horoscope or were you just kind and supportive now He is currently in a period of Saturn and my starts in May. Have been told that couples usually break up during this period and that's what I'm afraid of ..

Are you absolutely sure that it is worth to stay and fight or do you think it looks like it's meant for us to go our separate ways now? I do not want to go the wrong way .. to pound my head against the wall and not getting anywhere .. go against my way so to say .. is it that that's the point that my heart must go into a thousand pieces, or should I bite the bullet and fight and it will be good afterwards?

A thousand Thanks for taking the time to reply!!

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cookiepie
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posted February 26, 2014 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cookiepie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it easier to see if I download a synastry chart? How do I do that?

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AcousticGod
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posted February 26, 2014 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're smart. I like that! I was mostly kind and supportive now in honesty.

My intuitive answer is that you stay, because it seems like you're open to it. What's the worst that can happen? You could have a terrible time together, and you'll learn exactly what you need to learn in order to go forward more successfully. Or you could cut your losses right now, and wonder if it was the right thing to do.

It would be helpful to have charts, but it's a touch time consuming to set up. You have to get the chart. Then either save it to your hard drive, or copy the url. Then go to a site like Photobucket. Upload the picture either from your hard drive, or use the url. Then you can paste the location of the picture here between this code [img]your.picture's.url[/img]. Then it should show up.

If you guys generally get along, then I do think things will be better in the end. His Sun is in the 7th, which suggests that he's very attuned to partnership (even if he doesn't act like it). His Moon and Mercury are in the 6th, which suggests that he's also service-oriented -that he likes to help people.

His Venus and Mars placements are a bad sign to me. You have Mars in Taurus, which means you may like a more fixed personality, which an Aquarius fits. However, his Venus suggests that he like Piscean traits. You may be more fiery than he seems to want. His Mars is also in Pisces, which means he may not stick with things the way that you do. Is that part of the problem? Is he not moving forward in life?

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cookiepie
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posted February 26, 2014 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cookiepie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well thank you I'll see if I can get a chart, it seems a bit tricky.

How nice that you can interpret some of what I put up here, do not understand anything of it.

It is true what you say there, that I feel that he does not move forward. I feel like I'm waiting for him to grow up and be a man, so to speak. But the question is whether he can grow with me or if he only grows if I leave him.

I have a tendency to "dream" so I want to make sure that I stick to reality and make the right decision .. if I make him more than what he is, or if it is me who must come down to earth and deal with reality.

My goal is to learn as much as possible this period we are in now so we do not miss our opportunities to grow because that's why we're here in the first place

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posted February 26, 2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars is the planet of action. What sign it's in can give clues how a person will go about accomplishing something. Pisces is a Mutable sign, which means (amongst other things) it varies according the situation it's put in. Other sign types are Fixed and Cardinal. A Fixed sign in the context of Mars, will stubbornly complete things. A Cardinal sign won't hesitate to start things, but may not finish them. Mars in Pisces indicates that he could have a tendency to just go with the flow. If something is happening, that's great. If something is not happening, that's ok, too in their minds. They have the ability to start things, though not with the same initiative as a Cardinal sign (like Aries). They have the ability to stick with things...as long as it doesn't get too uncomfortable. Mostly, they aren't engaged in acting purposefully, and will change when something becomes uncomfortable. Like water, they'll move around the rock.

He can be a bit more down to earth than you with his Capricorn and Aqua placements.

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posted March 03, 2014 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cookiepie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for your answer! I have changed the information above, maybe you could se better now how we interact with each other? If we are suited to be together so to say.. Is there anything that shows, that he can become more spiritual or more receptive to spirituality?

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posted March 03, 2014 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't really tell from this. There may not be anything that specifies whether a person will be spiritual or not. If he's not now, then there's a possibility that he may not be for a long time to come. He's an Aquarius, which is a stubborn Sun sign. His Mercury is in Capricorn if I remember right (and can deduce from the previous posts), which is a very practical, down-to-earth sign. If he doesn't think spirituality is practical, then he may not ever become more spiritual.

Being an Aquarius may make him open to astrology, though. If that's the case, then you may find him spiritual after all...as astrology tends to indicate some affinity for spirituality.

Even if he's not spiritual, he is into you, in part, because you are spiritual. His Venus in Pisces likes a mystical woman. He could very well be fascinated by spiritual people.

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posted March 03, 2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really like your style AcousticGod You have a down to earth approach at things.

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cookiepie
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posted March 04, 2014 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cookiepie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your patiences with me AcousticGod At last, I have gotten up the charts! It was tricky but I got to it eventually See if you can see better about our relationship now? Feels like we have an emotional barrier between us .. wonder if we'll eventually meet? I am more spiritual than he is and he is more practical when it comes to life .. Can he become more open to spirituality or is it that he "sacrifices" himself to me and "pretend" to be interested in it? Do not think our relationship will continue if he does not open up more ..or do I need him because he is more down to earth than me? So we can help each other that way?

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Randall
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posted March 04, 2014 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome, cookiepie!

Great advice, AG. Good seeing you around this Forum.

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cookiepie
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posted March 04, 2014 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cookiepie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Randall!!

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AcousticGod
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posted March 04, 2014 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Plutonian Gal and Randall. I appreciate being appreciated.

Very interesting charts. What pops out immediately to me is that your Moon is in the 7th, and his Sun is in the 7th. You also both have Leo rising (which I think I knew initially when you posted the placements.

So while your Mars is supposed to indicate what attributes you like in a man, your 7th house also gives some indication of what you're looking for. Your 7th house starts in Aquarius as does his. You are both hoping for certain Aquarian properties in your relationships. Aqua is half ruled by Uranus, which is the most volatile planet, so perhaps you're both drawn to volatile relationships. Your 7th house quickly moves into Pisces, though, so maybe you're ok with a volatile start followed by some spiritual bliss.

His Sun likes your Sun a lot. However, your Sun is in hard aspect to his Mercury. It's a tight aspect, too (less than one degree from perfect), so that's kind of rough. His Capricornian mind takes issue with you. It seems like, on an instinctive level he likes you, but on a mental level he's not sure about you. Meanwhile, your lovely Mercury (Venus conjunct Mercury) is at odds with his emotional nature (his Moon). I wonder if you find him to be some kind of emotional cripple. Moon in Capricorn suggests that his feelings are soft (feminine) and subtle, and you might think that he should be more overt and obvious about what he's feeling. Your own emotional nature is kind of similar to his (your Moon in feminine Pisces), but still you have more a problem with his nature than your own. It's possible that you can't wrap your head around his emotional nature.

Your combined chart looks like a composite chart. It suggests some nice things, but the most troubling is the Moon in Aquarius. That means that, as a couple, your combined emotional nature is volatile and unpredictable. Interestingly, the only positive aspect that Moon makes is to Uranus, the planet of volatility (in the freedom-loving sign of Sagittarius). It appears to make negative connections to both the planet of transformation (Pluto) and the planet of discipline (Saturn). It kind of suggests that you guys are at your best when there's plenty of freedom. All of those planets interact with this Moon from the house that is in charge of your home (the 4th), which suggests that whatever happens at home affects your combined emotional nature the most.

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posted March 05, 2014 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cookiepie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

( laughs) It 's so true what you say , that I see him as an emotional cripple. I have been quite provocative in order to bring out his emotions sometimes.. Hard for both him and me when it comes to that..I really dont like to do that at all! But I do it to find out his wants , needs and feelings. It feels like he's a bottomless well where you pour in a lot and get nothing back , no impression about what he's feeling at all.

He has been incredibly generous material but very stingy emotionally. But it has taught me much more about myself so it's been good in that way We 've been together for over 7 years, it has been turbulent since the beginning, but it has gotten better the last couple of years, especially now that he came into his last year in his saturn period which ends at the end of this year , my saturn period starts in May this year.

One minute it feels like it's too late to improve our relationship because I feel incredibly restless and impatient right now .. and the next minute it feels like I can get more out of the relationship if I stay for we invested so much in it, and it has, step by step (little steps)improved. Feels a bit fated this relationship.. That's why I was wondering whether to hold on and it will be better after our saturn crises or to drop it for it has served its purpose..So the question is if we help each other in our development or if we hold back each other in our development right now.

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posted March 05, 2014 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's often difficult to figure out what you should do. I usually wait things out, but I'm a Capricorn Sun.

I've heard several times that any lesson you don't learn keeps coming back to you until you do learn it. If that's true, then no matter whether you stay or go, you're still going to learn what you need to learn. There's no telling whether it will be more comfortable or less comfortable.

The way you talk about his emotional nature seems about right to me. My Moon is in Virgo, but still I don't always connect with things emotionally. Many people have been frustrated by my lack of passion in expressing myself. The other side of that, is that people generally know I won't get too flustered by things. I'm no drama queen. I approach things from a practical perspective most of the time.

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posted March 06, 2014 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cookiepie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So your advice is that I should just go with the flow and it will prove in the end which way to take? It's hard for me to just wait, but if that is the case, then perhaps it is patience that I should learn now

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posted March 06, 2014 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is what I would do. You're free to do as you like.

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posted March 07, 2014 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cookiepie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could I ask one more question about my horoscope? I understand if you do not want to answer because you've already been so kind and answered my previous questions. I am so grateful for that. I wonder if you can see what sort profession that suits me best? Have tried numerous professions but feel that it is difficult to find a career that suits me. Have had bad luck with jobs.

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posted March 07, 2014 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't mind, but nothing is jumping out at me as to what your career should be.
Your MC is supposed to be your professional face to the world. Yours is in Taurus. Taurus deals with money, art, valuable things. Your Sun's ruler, Mars, is nearest to your MC, which kind of suggests that you shouldn't be having too much trouble. Your Mars is opposed by Saturn. Saturn wants you to act deliberately.

I do see that your water rulers (Moon, Neptune, and Pluto) are all joined nicely. The triangle there points at Neptune in Capricorn in the 5th. Neptune suggests spirituality. Capricorn suggests that it must be practical. In the 5th house points to creativity or possibly children or siblings. Sunday school teacher comes to mind. Maybe you should teach children, or write children's books.

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posted March 08, 2014 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cookiepie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never thought of that! Will try and see if it suits me A thousand thanks for your time and help!

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posted March 08, 2014 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been fun!

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