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Topic: *sigh* Synastry & Composite, please. Avoided it Long Enuff
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LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 08, 2014 05:48 PM
EDIT: SEE NEW CHARTS DOWN FURTHERI have been avoiding it because I pretty much read charts and figure "I got this," but hearing how that can fail, reading your own charts, I'm reaching out for some help. My main focus with this guy is longevity and commitment. I think we are very compatible in personality, BUT I could be wrong. He does not know his birth time, but I suspect he is Leo rising because of his thick hair and hair line. He's growing it out for me. Synastry Composite Event Chart of the moment we met Before everyone jumps on Synastry Venus square Uranus, know that my other two longest, most significant relationships had them. All three of these relationships began when Sun was in Scorpio. None of these guys were/are my type, but I'm most sexually attracted to this one, the only Venus/Mars trine. Please help. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ Moon Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
KingofCups Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 08, 2014 06:27 PM
Sorry that I won't be able to give too in-depth an analysis, but just from glancing over it, I'd say that you'll have an awesome relationship, but that it won't last forever. I say this because there are no 8th House placements in the house overlays on the Synastry or in the Composite (I'm going to assume you're right about his Asc and houses). To add to this, the event chart has 3 or so Yods in it. This will make the relationship feel fated and you will feel immensely attracted/bound to one another. Even if you break up, you'll probably get back together. But after a while, you'll end up realizing that this wasn't the best of decisions and split for good. Have fun with the relationship. It'll probably be a great experience, but I don't see it as being "the one". IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 08, 2014 06:30 PM
Thanks, King of Cups!!! It definitely feels fated on both ends. He actually admitted so first. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ Moon Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
kaianna Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Nassau Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 08, 2014 06:44 PM
Ok in the synastry I dont really see any aspects to the lumanaries or chiron, I do see sun in positive asoect to mars suggesting attraction and your sun in house 1st house which means once again that he finds you very attractive, but im looking for the emotional connection on 1st glance of the synastry I dont really see it but ill check out the composite and be back with more. IP: Logged |
kaianna Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Nassau Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 08, 2014 06:47 PM
I agree with king of cups it will be a good fun relationship but I dont see strong indicators of him being the one.IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 08, 2014 06:51 PM
His Chiron aspects all of my inner planets incl Venus. I will post the aspects for synasty. One moment. THANK YOU He is Person 1 ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ Moon Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī NakshatraIP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted March 08, 2014 06:54 PM
well, you have moon and mars in your 5th, so passion and romance and intensity are going to be important for you; relationships play a key role and you probably don't release people easily. we don't know his house positions because no TOB, so it's not possible to see if any of his signs overlay your 5th. i think - on the surface - you'd be similar because you both have a stellium in a water element, which is good, because water element people relate best to one another, the moons (we assume his is cap) are also fairly compatible; scorpio and cap moons get on quite nicely and both vale commitment. the "problem" i see with this chart is the absence of conjunctions. you don't need conjunctions for something to work, but if you don't have them, it means what? just trines and sextiles and oppositions, and your oppositions with this person aren't strong. the worst part are the mercury signs, they are badly positioned; mercury against venus, the moon, or another mercury puts a big strain on communication with a couple. the composite isn't pretty... it'll be off because you don't know TOB for him, but the moon is sitting opposite the mercury and the venus, which is a trouble spot. and all of a sudden the sympathy you have for one another in the initial relationship (the water element) gets eroded in the composite and shifted into other elements. sorry, not optimistic for this.IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 08, 2014 07:04 PM
Starmoon, I assumed Leo rising, but he could also be Scorpio rising because of his eyes, but that's all. I realize I'm shooting in the dark with the composte and house placements, though and many of King of Cups's problems were regarding placement. Communication in itself is not a problem for us. We could talk until almost dawn and have. Sometimes he goes away for a couple of days because work is killing him and he doesn't tell me. I hate that because we don't have that kind of rapport with each other yet. Hard to explain, but I'll trust u get my meaning. We talk a LOT. Sometimes TOO much. His Mercury opposes by Sun/Moon midpoint by 1°.
The composite doesn't seem to resonate for us no matter if I try Leo or Scorpio, though. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ Moon Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
kaianna Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Nassau Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 08, 2014 07:08 PM
A lot of your chiron aspects are too wide, but the jupiter chiron linkage is aspicious though so thats good, but from the composite I see a 11th and 5th house stellium so I think this would be a relationship with a lot of good feelings but it wont lead to a serious commitment.IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 08, 2014 07:11 PM
Here is the composite with Scorpio, although I don't think it makes much difference. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ Moon Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted March 08, 2014 07:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by LoadedPistil: Starmoon, I assumed Leo rising, but he could also be Scorpio rising because of his eyes, but that's all. I realize I'm shooting in the dark with the composte and house placements, though and many of King of Cups's problems were regarding placement. Communication in itself is not a problem for us. We could talk until almost dawn and have. Sometimes he goes away for a couple of days because work is killing him and he doesn't tell me. I hate that because we don't have that kind of rapport with each other yet. Hard to explain, but I'll trust u get my meaning. We talk a LOT. Sometimes TOO much. His Mercury opposes by Sun/Moon midpoint by 1°.
The composite doesn't seem to resonate for us no matter if I try Leo or Scorpio, though.
try other ASC's for him. I wouldn't know either, but I can see in synastry why it wouldn't be the Leo. that would put his venus square to your own ASC, and from experiences reading romantic charts it's almost impossible to find romance when someone's venus squares the partner's ASC; the venus doesn't find the outward appearance(s) of the ASC attractive. and he obviously finds you attractive so I'd keep shifting his TOB.
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kaianna Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Nassau Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 08, 2014 07:12 PM
Of course free will reigns supreme so dont fret, maybe add in some more asppteriods and the aspects between them, they tell a lotIP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 08, 2014 07:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: try other ASC's for him. I wouldn't know either, but I can see in synastry why it wouldn't be the Leo. that would put his venus square to your own ASC, and from experiences reading romantic charts it's almost impossible to find romance when someone's venus squares the partner's ASC; the venus doesn't find the outward appearance(s) of the ASC attractive. and he obviously finds you attractive so I'd keep shifting his TOB.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh......... The attraction he has for me unbelievable. I don't want to divulge too much. It's very private to me. Let's just say, he would kiss my feet if it pleased me. Something is off with these composites and quite honestly, I don't see the Cancer rising in Myself. I would guess Virgo rising. I was Hermione. Professors would ask me to leave or not raise my hand, but not necessarily an A student. Thanks for that. I'm an analyst by trade. I do love convincing evidence. LOL ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ Moon Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra
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kaianna Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Nassau Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 08, 2014 07:18 PM
Leo ascendant wud put ur sun in his 1st house and that cud explain the intense attractionIP: Logged |
kaianna Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Nassau Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 08, 2014 07:24 PM
A lot of your chiron aspects are too wide, but the jupiter chiron linkage is aspicious though so thats good, but from the composite I see a 11th and 5th house stellium so I think this would be a relationship with a lot of good feelings but it wont lead to a serious commitment.IP: Logged |
kaianna Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Nassau Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 08, 2014 07:24 PM
I agree with king of cups it will be a good fun relationship but I dont see strong indicators of him being the one.IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 08, 2014 07:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by kaianna: Of course free will reigns supreme so dont fret, maybe add in some more asppteriods and the aspects between them, they tell a lot
Well, I'm shocked that some of the problems I picked up you guys aren't mentioning. I was seeing the charts to say we would be together long, but no marital commitment. Just a dragging, emotional bore. I saw abuses. Hmmm... Just unlucky things getting in the way. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ Moon Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
kaianna Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Nassau Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 08, 2014 07:29 PM
I dont see abuse, in ur synastry nor composite are their hard pluto aspects and there is only one hard mars aspect and thats to jupiter and that doesnt spell abuse. Cud u tell me wat u saw as abuse in the charts?IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 08, 2014 07:35 PM
Mars Squares Saturn spells Chris Brown and Rihanna BUT!!!!!' We've Channeled that energy some Pluto Square Mars Venus Neptune Square indicated we would split. I fear this because I don't feel this aspect between us. I have never promised and not delivered. I'm fact, I make a point to ask him. Fear of the unknown, I guess. I also don't feel Mars Square Saturn. He never barks at me, so I feel that will develop soon and break us. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ Moon Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 8110 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 08, 2014 09:09 PM
You have sun square uranus in synastry...you treat each other inconsiderately and make impulsive decisions which are insensitive to the others feelings. You arent exactly gentle with each other--u like saying things that are brutally honest--little snide remarks, to upset each other a little ir not have things too settled. That is strictly uranus. Its very uranian/aqua (when afflicted)to do that.You have moon in hard aspect to venus in composite then venus is hard aspect to pluto---classic attraction pattern, however not true love. Feelings can fade, and you arent as kind to each other as two people who love each other dearly. He is a horse you are a rat, opposite signs. Thats the most incompatible combination in chinese astro. Look up shelly wu opposite signs on google and youll see how combatant these relationships can turn out to be. Very passionate for sure....but u just wont fully ever be on the same page or be able to trust each other bc what one person values, the other person needs the exact opposite of. ------------------ Cancer: eternally the mother of the zodiac... ebay compatibility readings | testimonials | Past readings | Ideal compatibility (3rd post) | Q&A | What's a Love stellium? | Most important aspects descriptions | Aspects to avoid | Guide to Chinese Zodiac Appearance | The Order in Astrology IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 09, 2014 08:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: You have sun square uranus in synastry...you treat each other inconsiderately and make impulsive decisions which are insensitive to the others feelings. You arent exactly gentle with each other--u like saying things that are brutally honest--little snide remarks, to upset each other a little ir not have things too settled. That is strictly uranus. Its very uranian/aqua (when afflicted)to do that.You have moon in hard aspect to venus in composite then venus is hard aspect to pluto---classic attraction pattern, however not true love. Feelings can fade, and you arent as kind to each other as two people who love each other dearly. He is a horse you are a rat, opposite signs. Thats the most incompatible combination in chinese astro. Look up shelly wu opposite signs on google and youll see how combatant these relationships can turn out to be. Very passionate for sure....but u just wont fully ever be on the same page or be able to trust each other bc what one person values, the other person needs the exact opposite of.
That sun square uranus rears its ugly head sometimes, but once he sees I'm getting angry, he backtracks. Still... I hate it. The brutal honesty part comes out sometimes, but we usually warn each other. "How honest do you want me to b with that answer?" Both of us can have sharp tongues, but for now, we manage. I worry about this one a bit. Not gonna worry TOO much about venus pluto until he asks his mother for a time. That's one to watch out for, but it's relationship glue. Sextile would've been much better. That aspect disappears into a sesquisquare more neutral aspect with Scorpio rising, so I don't know about this. Chinese astrology is good, but that's like saying Leo/Pisces and I can't take that and run. Good to know, though! Gonna see if he fits horse but I'm DEFINITELY the resourceful rat! THANK YOU!! ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ Moon Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 09, 2014 09:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by starmoon: try other ASC's for him. I wouldn't know either, but I can see in synastry why it wouldn't be the Leo. that would put his venus square to your own ASC, and from experiences reading romantic charts it's almost impossible to find romance when someone's venus squares the partner's ASC; the venus doesn't find the outward appearance(s) of the ASC attractive. and he obviously finds you attractive so I'd keep shifting his TOB.
Taurus rising is sounding familiar and the Venus sq Asc disappears! Composite
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LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 09, 2014 12:20 PM
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starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted March 09, 2014 12:51 PM
well, we don't know for sure, but this looks like a better ASC for him for the romance you're explaining. it now drops his moon into your 7th, his mars into your 1st. and your planets overlay his 5th and 7th. it still doesn't help the composite. let us know when you eventually find out the correct time!IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil Moderator Posts: 1681 From: NJ, USA Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 09, 2014 12:57 PM
He knows it's important to me. And I ain't to proud to beg I'll be back in a week's time. Good to know we're not gonna kill each other. I was worried about the abuse. ------------------ Leo ♌️ Sun Scorpio ♏ Moon Cancer ♋ Rising Svātī Nakshatra IP: Logged |