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rajin
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posted April 20, 2014 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just want to make sure that when I try to end this physical existence of mine I will be successful and not end up a vegetable. Is there anything in my chart that will indicate that I will be unsuccessful? I am tired of living without hope and am tired of getting up to fight, each battle seems to be worse than the last one and I have nothing to look forward to.
I am tired to my soul and want to lie down and never wake up again.

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posted April 20, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FairyDust75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please don't give up. We all have hard times. There have been times when I thought I'd never smile or be happy again but I made it through. We all go through trials and tribulations, some worse than others. But be strong and seek some help for whatever is burdening you. Taking your own life is never the right way to go. Tomorrow is another day. Think of the impact you will leave on others around you. Please rethink your decision to end your life.

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posted April 20, 2014 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenny415     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please don't do this. I have felt this way too and life is really painful but it goes on. Every day for me is a struggle to get out of my house but when I do, I stumble upon little things like a baby smiling at me or I see something written on the sidewalk like " everything will be ok". And I realize I am not alone and I am not as invisible as I feel sometimes. I love drinking tea at midnight on the stoop and looking at the moonlight sky. I feel very much connected in a world that makes it so easy to feel disconnected sometimes...music is also my best friend... I am with you and your struggle. Please, don't forget to see all the beauty that lies before you and within yourself.

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posted April 20, 2014 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am tired. I keep thinking this is the worst that can happen and then something worse happens. My dad got diagnosed with prostate cancer and now my mom with ovarian cancer. I don't have enough funds to support them, I live away from them, eat very little, so I can earn enough to send them money, they are very independent and insist that I should not worry about them, but it does not work like that. I love them but if I lose them I have nothing to live for. I have had my hear t broken so many times that I don't even want to look for love any more. I don't have siblings who would feel the same way about my parents and support me.
I can't do it anymore.
Pl. help me end it all.

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posted April 20, 2014 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ash20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't do it. I've felt like you before but I realized taking my own life was not worth all of the pain I would cause to other people.. I don't know what you are going through but I believe there is always hope. Please reconsider <3

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posted April 20, 2014 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sandra018     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please don't do anything final.
You never know how things may turn out. Even with your parents being sick.With God ALL things are possible.

"WHEN YOU ARE DOWN TO NOTHING, GOD IS UP TO SOMETHING. THE FAITFUL SEE THE INVISIBLE,BELIEVE THE INCREDIBLE AND THEN RECEIEVE THE IMPOSIBLE"

sending you a hug and light.

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posted April 20, 2014 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right now nothing matters to me,except my parents. Will anyone pl. take a look at my chart and tell me if I have a even horrible year ahead? Will I lose them?
I was born 22 Nov 1971 2.19pm. Bombay India.
And will I succeed in ending my life if I lose them? pl. dont tell me I will end up unsuccessful in even that.

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posted April 20, 2014 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FairyDust75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think about how they will feel should you succeed in ending your life. The pain that they will feel. Even if somethin happens to your parents they wouldn't want you to end your life. You are their legacy and you have to go on for them. Please don't hurt yourself.

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posted April 20, 2014 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Fairydust. But if they are not in this world, I dont want to be here either. I cant wait to be with them in the blue yonder and I cant survive another 10, 20 years without hearing their voice, feeling their arms around me, feeling their love for me. Plus they wont know if I am alive or not if they go.

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posted April 20, 2014 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 20, 2014 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotus_flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Rajin,

Just wanted to share this quick story--over the last year, my mother went through a terrible terrrible illness---it happened over Christmas--she was confused, didn't know where I was, and doctors wanted me to "put her in a home." My mom went from me a normal functioning person to completely confused and hallucinating. During this time, I had to go back to finished my grad degree (b/c my family made me, 7 hours away from where she was) but during this time, I would have gladly given up my life so that my mom could be well--many times, I asked God to do just that--trade us, and I would disappear. My mom was/is my best friend and being an only child, were were like one person.

I understand comepletely how you feel---but through all of this, I had to hold on to hope for the future and I had to think about my mom--what would she want me to do? Continue getting my education, continue to find work in the field I loved, she would not want me to stop finding value in the life SHE GAVE ME. A year later (recently this past January) after months of fighing on her behalf and many many set backs, she was finally placed a wonderful facility where she is independent and happy. She is not the mother I knew of before, but there are times when I see she still has her sense of joy and love for me and that will never change.

There are times still, when I wonder why this had to happen to such a sweet and loving mother like her, but I know there is a higher plan and purpose for everything--and we have to have the strength to continue on.

I tell you this, so that you may have hope for your future. Trust in that the life you are living HAS A PURPOSE (we don't necessarily have to know or understand this), but it does.

For you, I pulled some Angel cards:
Archangel Raphael: "Give your cares and worries to us angels, and allow us to take your burdens"

Archangel Zadkiel: "Soften your heart with respect to this situation and all the people involved, including yourself"

These cards are for you to trust that things will be OK, and that you are not alone!

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posted April 20, 2014 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks Fairydust. But if they are not in this world, I dont want to be here either. I cant wait to be with them in the blue yonder and I cant survive another 10, 20 years without hearing their voice, feeling their arms around me, feeling their love for me. Plus they wont know if I am alive or not if they go.

You say that you wouldn't be able to wait to be with them if they were to die, which I assume means you believe in an afterlife of some sort. Then, you say that they wouldn't know that you'd taken your own life if they were already dead. If you were to see them in the afterlife, wouldn't they figure it out? Wouldn't they be disappointed to know that their legacy is over? Might they not feel guilty to know that their only child gave his/her life because of them? I'm sure that they want you to live. Love can be found in infinite proportions in this world. I know it doesn't seem that way now, but it's true. Things happen for a reason. If one source of love goes, it's to teach you something. And when you have learned, another source of love will appear to give you comfort and shelter and security. Another source of love will appear for you to confide in, for you to wrap your arms around, for you to share your love with. That said, your parents ARE NOT dead yet. They are still alive. Live for them. Their lives are not yet lost. Try your hardest to save them. And hopefully, whatever force rules this universe will help you through the difficulties and allow your parents to survive. Honestly though, killing yourself isn't going to accomplish anything. Trying to stop your parents from dying, trying to make something of yourself and of your life, spreading your love, and seeking the help necessary to do so (if needed) is.

Best wishes for you and your parents. May they both survive, and may you see better days ahead.

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posted April 20, 2014 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for St@r2013     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what your beliefs are regarding afterlife rajin but I always got the sense that when someone takes their own life the soul doesn't always go to the after life but is stuck in between the lives. So there is no sense of serenity and peace but rather confusion and isolation.... where your neither here nor there.

I also think your parents would be devastated ... each person has their own time to go and there's a reason for that - you're here to accomplish something.

Turn to God(s)/Angels and ask for help, pray - I do it all the time when I feel lost and confused.

And I'm sending lots of love your way, the situation sounds really difficult and just sucks! Seriously sucks! But yeah - don't take your life away...

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posted April 20, 2014 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thank each and every one of you for your kind words and your love. I am terribly depressed, feel very hopeless and helpless. I believe in astrology and Penny Thornton who is the lady who predictedLady Di 's demise says that my sun sign will not be taking everybody I know into next year with Saturn making cuts. I have my sun at 29 deg scorpio and many major planets in Sag. I am scared that her predictions will come true in the worst possible way. Will Saturn's path be that harsh? Why punish me when I am willing to work hard for his rewards? And whymy parents? I would gladly bear all their Iillnesses and pain.

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posted April 20, 2014 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not the most experienced astrologer, and this is only my second interpretation of death, but I feel like your mom at the very least still has a few years left. I think she still has until 2018-2019. My reasoning is that there is a Saturn Conjunct Pluto transit that will occur fairly close to where your Moon is during that time. But for the time being, I don't see anything dire coming over your Moon, which is supposed to symbolize your mother. I don't know enough about Saturn transits (or transits in general) to predict your dad.

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posted April 20, 2014 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks King of Cups. Will the Saturn pluto transit also indicate an end to my existence? What are the transits to a natal chart that indicate self's death in a person's chart?

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posted April 20, 2014 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, you are seriously hell-bent on killing yourself. Capricorn Moons seem to be really susceptible to depression like this. (And yes, I am thinking aloud to show you my thought process.)

The point we have all been trying to make is that suicide is NOT the answer. I know your life is hard now, but that does not mean it will be hard forever. You have an Eighth House Scorpio Sun, so you are meant to go through many figurative, personal deaths and rebirths. You are meant to be challenged. But you are also meant to overcome these challenges, not to give up in facing them. Please try to be courageous. The future is not completely bleak. Go out with friends, listen to music, whatever you like to do. Make yourself feel better. Find someone to talk to who you trust. And if you don't have anyone (please don't tell your parents you want to kill yourself), share with us. We are all open to hearing what you have to say, and we all want you to live. I know that it may seem really pretentious for someone random who has never known you to say something like this, but life in itself is something precious. We don't want anyone to lose theirs, to just give up on theirs, because of challenges. It is hard. There are a lot of hard things that will come your way. But they are there for you to learn from them, not for you to simply crumble. There are happier times after the devastation. There always are. As an angel card reading above said, you will find what you desire, you will be happy once again, something will happen to help you in saving your parents, but you have to be alive to experience these things. Suicide will solve nothing. Sit down for a little bit, and think about all of the people who will be affected by you taking your own life. It doesn't have to be a friend or relative or anyone close to you (although, it would certainly help if you were close to them). It could just be someone who you pass by on your way to work. It could be the neighbor who you simply exchange smiles with. It could be some kid who admires you for working so hard towards the goal of trying to save your parents. It could be anyone. But there will be others who are affected. There really will be. You will be dead. They will be left scarred. You've fought so hard for so long. Don't let your efforts go in vain. Even if you are unsuccessful in saving your parents, you will have gained a lot from your efforts. You have a powerful persona. You have a powerful effect on others. That is the working of an Eighth House Scorpio Sun. You are destined to rise from the ashes as a Phoenix. Let yourself be that.

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posted April 21, 2014 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much King of Cups. I have been feeling miserable since my mom's diagnosis came. I am very close to both my parents but especially her. We are almost 2 bodies with one heart between us. We can finish sentences for each other and I know instinctively the moment something is not right with her.
The thought of losing someone who is the soul to your body, the breath to your life devastates me. I work in cancer research but I lost all objectivity when it came to my parents.
The other part was that I have had a very hard decade of living. I had my heart broken so many times and now I am afraid of letting anyone get close. I did try again because I still think there is something in me that I can share and someone will value it. But it came to nothing and this was last month. The guy heard about my problems and turned tail and ran. I dont mourn him, if he cant be there for the bad times when else will he stand by me. But it is one failure after another. And I wonder why did he come into my life if he was meant to mean nothing. This would not affect me much normally but with everything else this seemed like the last straw.
I see people celebrate good things in life in spite of achieving it by unfair means and I wonder how is it that some people have good fortune come to them so easily, while I struggle to find any happiness. It is not that I am inherently a unhappy person, but I seem to have forgotten how to be happy and to smile. It is once bitten always shy for me.
Can you pl. take a look at my transits and tell me will I have someone who will stand by me through this tough time, love me and be my Rock of Gibraltar. I fight my own battles but sometimes it would be nice to have someone who watches your back.
Thank you all for being my sounding board. I was at an all time low today. it just overwhelmed me.

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posted April 21, 2014 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KingofCups     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tbh, I am not good with Transit stuff. I'm pretty inexperienced.

I have to say though, if you work in cancer research and give your life, wouldn't that be millions of people like your parents who have been diagnosed with the disease losing an asset and millions of people like you losing someone who they expect to help them through the situation? There are people out there, a lot of people out there, who are counting on people like you to help.

The concept of Karma is that you are rewarded for good decisions in a past lifetime and face hardships to make amends for bad decisions. Those who are able to celebrate despite attaining their fortunes in a bad way are often among the former group and will find themselves among those of the latter group later on in their karmic cycle. (Just to let you know, suicide does not put you in a very high place, karmically speaking )

These trials and hardships are all there for a reason. Think about your relationships with those who have broken your heart, and try to reflect on them. They have taught you something. Perhaps each has taught you something different. You have walked away from each stronger is what I'm sure you'll realize if you take the time to think about it.

As far as finding someone goes, my best guess would be October 14th of this year (assuming you're a girl). Mars will be Conjunct your Natal Mercury and Venus on this date. Again, this is pretty much an educated guess, and I have no idea if this is how a tMars Conjunct Venus should be interpreted.

EDIT: I just read through some things, and because Venus has rulership of your Seventh House, it seems quite possible that tMars Conjunct Venus leads you to finding a partner.

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posted April 21, 2014 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks King of Cups. I have been working through tough times because of the thought that my work can help someone. But right now I am not in a good place and nothing I don seems satisfying, there is no peace within me.
Thanks for being a shoulder to cry on. Have a good week.

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posted April 21, 2014 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrimsonRed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 21, 2014 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrimsonRed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@rajin
We don't know each other, but I ran across your thread and something came to me... intuitively. I would love to share it with you, if you'd be interested. I'm hoping it would help you, possibly. If you're interested please let me know.

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posted April 21, 2014 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Crimsonred
I would love to hear what you have to say. I am humbled by the support I have received here. I have been having a tough time dealing with all the things happening in our lives and have been very low for a while now. Any help is appreciated.

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posted April 22, 2014 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrimsonRed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi Crimsonred
I would love to hear what you have to say. I am humbled by the support I have received here. I have been having a tough time dealing with all the things happening in our lives and have been very low for a while now. Any help is appreciated.

Hi again,

I hope you're feeling a little better.

Earlier, as I was reading your post and saw your birthday, I got a strong feeling of a lot of Sag in your chart.

Allow me to digress for a moment... since we've never communicated... I'm an empath... have basics in astrology, but do not translate/interpret it in the traditional way, but intuitively. For the traditional, there are many people here who seem to be excellent at interpretations, transits and such, so they would be able to look at your chart in that way... so just clarifying.

Also, I haven't been on here for quite a while and something someone said to me today (which really had nothing to do with LL here,) made me come and take a peek at the postings and your subject line caught my eye immediately.

So I read your post and felt lots of Sag in your chart, and felt that something astrologically is messing with you. Causing you to feel and see things through like a dark veil... seeing everything negative, dark and hopeless. Now not to minimize ANYTHING you're feeling and experiencing, not at ALL, but I felt that you have like dark glasses imposed upon you through which you're seeing things/are almost forced to see things. So there's a little more and there's an interesting twist with this story, but I'd rather not post it in public here.

Anyway, so I peeked at the Ephemeris for your dob and there they were... all the Sag planets you have. So because my feeling was right about the sag energy, I therefore felt compelled to write to you.

So basically I feel you're like in a really bad storm and you don't see your way out of it. It seems like a destructive storm to you... that will annihilate everything around you, including you. I feel the storm that is surrounding you is going to pass over you and the sun will shine again. But right now, while you're in the midt of the storm, you totally cannot see how it'll ever go away.

Hopefully you've found more to lift the darkness and allow more light in... and I pray that you feel better.

Love and Light!

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posted April 22, 2014 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Crimsonred
You are very right. I have a lot of Sag planets and as you say I feel I am stuck in a bad swirling mist through which I am not finding my way out. Nothing seems to go right for me and I have no guiding light heling me orient myself. I fear each day will bring worse news tban the previous one. I am amazed that you felt that. Would you like to write to me on my email?
You have an amazing gift and the sight.
Thank you .

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