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downtomars
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posted May 07, 2014 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone...

I wrote about my latest break-up/rejection in another thread ( http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/011462.html ), but I am having a hard time getting over this guy. I have been crying every day and night since we have stopped exclusively talking/seeing each other. We used to talk from the time I woke up until the time I went to bed, and now I am lucky if I get a "hey, how are you?" text every few days. I knew there were warning signs and major red flags, but I ignored them. Sometimes I don't trust myself enough...

So, I cry when I see something that reminds me of the trips to see him (we met online, long distance), I cry when someone else texts me, I am crying at work (but quickly covering it up). I don't know what to do...

I know it is not only about him - when we started talking, about 5 months ago, I also started a new position at work that I wasn't sure I wanted to take. Talking (texting) with him made me feel better about going to work but now, I am forced to be present, in a job that I hate. I was also supposed to move to be closer to him and now, that's not looking good because the day we decided to "be friends" I got a rejection letter from the job I'd hoped for in his area.

I am usually sad for a day or two if things go wrong, but this time I can't seem to snap out of it. I can't see how my life will get any better.

Please tell me what you think, using any technique you want...

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LoadedPistil
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posted May 07, 2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you remember the day things went downhill? Use that date for a transit on your natal and repost. If not, use an estimate

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downtomars
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posted May 07, 2014 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Can you remember the day things went downhill? Use that date for a transit on your natal and repost. If not, use an estimate


Just thinking about this is making me cry ...

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LoadedPistil
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posted May 07, 2014 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lord have mercy. Don't cry, sugar plum.

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crys
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posted May 07, 2014 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, i am sorry about you going through this...
I really can feel you..

Well what i see,
Rx saturn in transit over MC,-this is why you hate your job so much.

Sun our 7th house ruler is making a square to transit rx saturn.

Yout tr sun is conjunct your natal chiron-the pain you feel in the love field.

Sorry i can see more.
I hope you get better, i think after saturn will not make any aspect with your personal planets it will be better

All the best!

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LoadedPistil
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posted May 07, 2014 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, dear. The woman in front of me on the bus is crying, too. *sigh*

#1) Transit Uranus is conjunct your Natal Uranus. Saturn is Retro, so you may remember some bad news just a year or 2 ago. (I'm bad at remembering speeds) Saturn goes direct in September. Until then, there will be aggravation. Luckily, this will probably be the worst of it in your life. It's also conjunt your MC. Play with the transit and look when you'll get relief as Saturn moves away from your 10th cusp.

2) Transit Mars is also retro to conjunct your Pluto making you obsessive in a bad way. Mars goes direct in 12 days.

Ill look at some cards when I get home.

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fauxcoat
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posted May 07, 2014 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ downtomars - I have similar placements (libra moon, aqua rising and scorpio MC, Saturn in 7th house) and my life has been terrible. I cry out of the blue and just feel horrible. I also had a breakup recently as well. It looks like things are working out so that you are not to be with this guy (the breakup/not getting the job in his town); perhaps you are meant to stay where you are. Maybe you are supposed to go it alone, get used to your new job, and see how you feel by September. I bet by that time you will have moved on from him or maybe you will have worked things out or even met someone new....but I bet you will feel much differently than you do now. You may not even want him by that time. Keep focus on your job for the time being and who knows maybe he will contact you in a few weeks/months.

@Pistol - would you read my chart too (it is similar to downtomars' chart so if you can just do a quick look to see if the same applies to me?

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posted May 07, 2014 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Post it!!!!

I'm going through a similar time, but I'm not one to cry. Doesn't mean I don't feel the way you guys do.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 07, 2014 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I responded to you on the thread mentioned. But in any event;

For 7th house Sun people, separations can be very trying. You function well when there is someone to relate to, bounce ideas off of and generally be your sounding board.

I think that you are lonely. You may have made a unique connection with him that you doubt that you'll ever make with another.

Get out and see people. It'll get easier . Just make an effort to feel good without him.

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fauxcoat
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posted May 07, 2014 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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fauxcoat
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posted May 07, 2014 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ downtomars - just saw that you have both Jupiter and sun in your 7th house! That is very good. You will undoubtedly be guided to whom you are to be with so it makes sense that you had the job loss in your ex bf's town. Let fate guide you...if he is the one for you, the relationship will be salvaged. If not, you will meet someone who is a better fit for you. Although you have Saturn in 7th, you have a lot of good luck placements there as well so things will eventually work out for you. Those are some nice placements...wish I had something more than Saturn in my 7th.

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LoadedPistil
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posted May 07, 2014 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fauxcoat:
Thanks, Pistol!


Here is my chart:


Transits, woman!!! I need natal with transits!!

(By chance, do you have a brother named Richard?)

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LoadedPistil
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posted May 07, 2014 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. The cards I pulled for you are extraordinarily painful. I'm not even going to list them because children may be watching. There's incredible pain here..... BUT!!! The star fell out of the deck and the final outcome I the 3 of cups even though hopes and fears was the two of cups. This is how I see it. My deck was running out of painful cards. There wasn't much left but joy. Your extreme fear shows here. Page of Wands shows me that you'll continue contact with him. I can't promise that the sunny ending with be one of romance, but I don't feel he will part from you completely. There is love there.

I see the workings of finding a new job, but not before summer will te efforts bear fruit. 9 of wands is assessing your work and efforts and outcome is 3 of wands with spiritual awareness and virtues. You'll be in a better place emotionally/mentally to give your best effort at the summer solstice.

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fauxcoat
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posted May 07, 2014 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Pistol - I linked the chart with transits.

No brother with that name. Just saw you are from NJ - which part of NJ are you from?

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LoadedPistil
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posted May 07, 2014 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fauxcoat:
@ Pistol - I linked the chart with transits.

No brother with that name. Just saw you are from NJ - which part of NJ are you from?


I don't see the chart.
Northern

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fauxcoat
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posted May 07, 2014 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I'll repost it here.

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downtomars
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posted May 08, 2014 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry to hear that so many of you are feeling the same way. It's a terrible state...

Crys -

quote:
Rx saturn in transit over MC,-this is why you hate your job so much.

Sun our 7th house ruler is making a square to transit rx saturn.

Yout tr sun is conjunct your natal chiron-the pain you feel in the love field.


Thank you. Sometimes things are so obvious, like my 5th, 8th and 7th house rulers (Sun & Mercury) going over my Chiron. Yeah, "wounded healer" my bum! Where is the healing? :-P

I had a feeling about Saturn though causing me stress at work. I got the position and all was well when Saturn was direct and conjunct my MC. I thought things would be better because I got a raise and a better title but I knew things would be terrible because I am not as well-liked at this organization as the person (younger, good-looking, flirtatious, all-play/no-work man) before me. I was actually trying to make changes, but that doesn't fly. So I give up there. I am doing the bare minimum and I dare anyone to say anything about it. Like I said, the guy before me did nothing and had zero qualifications for the job, someone up top just liked him for some reason. I found him obnoxious and I didn't appreciate his lack of work ethic. But, people at my organization bring him up as if he did as much as I do. Um, I created a curriculum, set up a class, got more credentials (credentials that he refused to get) and started a pilot program that is now thriving and successful and allowed us to get a new grant (I work for a small non-profit). I am just not as entertaining as the last guy. It's sad. I want to be appreciated at my next job. What's funny is that my direct supervisor does appreciate me and saw that the last guy did little to nothing, which is why she got him to leave (he got a side job - as a cop, when we work for parole re-entry - that was considered a "conflict of interest" and my boss took it to every level until HE decided to leave - he should have been fired!). My boss gives me a boost every day but she wants to leave too because she feels the same way I do.

I know that was too much about my job, I just had to get it out though.

Thanks for listening.

Fauxcoat -

quote:
Let fate guide you...if he is the one for you, the relationship will be salvaged. If not, you will meet someone who is a better fit for you.

That's how I am trying to see it. I think that if he was really the one then it would be easy. I don't know why I was guided to him in the first place because I thought it was for a reason. I don't date that often, in fact he is the first guy I dated in over two years. This leads to another reason why this is so sad for me - I am not really in the dating game because I play for keeps. It's rare that I meet someone who touches my heart and moves me enough to want to date them so if things don't work out, it's rough. I have large gaps in my relationship history, I don't run right out and meet people. Plus it seems that all of my jobs keep me away from people who would be in my dating pool. I now work primarily with parolees and people on probation and prior to that I worked at a very small family run business and before that a mental health clinic - I should leave the non-profit realm, which is mostly women, and move to the corporate world. I also have way more education than the people I work with, they are surprised I even work there since I have two masters degrees and the job desription only calls for someone with a high school diploma! I need to move on and up, maybe I'll meet more people who are "in my league". I don't know. I have met a man at work and it wasn't so great: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum23/HTML/000138-2.html

Aries23Degrees -

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For 7th house Sun people, separations can be very trying. You function well when there is someone to relate to, bounce ideas off of and generally be your sounding board.

I think that you are lonely. You may have made a unique connection with him that you doubt that you'll ever make with another.


Yes, I agree. We went from talking all day long (texting during the day, calling during the evening) for five months to next to nothing. It's really hard. I've never met someone who had time to or liked to talk that much. I think that's why this is even harder, I thought we were compatible in that way. We were long distance too, so we needed that from each other.

I am lonely. I am pretty reclusive and I rarely date so when I let someone in it actually means something to me. I have to get used to the fact that not everyone is like that, even when they say they are.

LoadedPistil -

Thank you for your replies and reading.

quote:
Page of Wands shows me that you'll continue contact with him.

I really don't want to be the desperate one that continues to initiate contact though. I wait for him, but keeping me hanging on is not good for me and is just as desperate. I don't know if the love is both ways, it doesn't feel that way now anyway. In our composite chart we have a tight "love stellium" but it is square Saturn. There are a couple of things that could explain - our distance, his alcoholism and other health issues and maybe the lopsided love. The three of cups had me excited though for a moment, "the reunion card". He wants to see me at the end of the month, when he will be making a business trip near where I live. I don't know how that will play out.

quote:
I see the workings of finding a new job, but not before summer will te efforts bear fruit. 9 of wands is assessing your work and efforts and outcome is 3 of wands with spiritual awareness and virtues. You'll be in a better place emotionally/mentally to give your best effort at the summer solstice.

This is spot on! I actually am not thinking of making a real career move until July/August. What I really need right now is a side job to help pay off some debts before I move anywhere. I wouldn't have to do that if I was actually getting paid what I was worth (part of the job resentment). I will eventually though.

Thank you again! (<--Yay, an exclamation point! I haven't done that in a while...)


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downtomars
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posted May 08, 2014 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those of you who have said that there might be a chance of reconciliation (well, alluded to it in my mind), is it possible that it might happen when Mercury goes retrograde in my 5th house (it's my 5th and 8th house ruler also) in mid-June?

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fauxcoat
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posted May 08, 2014 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll chime in quickly before my lunch break is over...it looks like Jupiter will transit your 7th house in the near future. That is a good time for marriage.

I don't know if mercury retro will bring him back...it could...but it doesn't mean the communication would go well.

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downtomars
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posted May 08, 2014 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Fauxcoat,

quote:
Originally posted by fauxcoat:

I don't know if mercury retro will bring him back...it could...but it doesn't mean the communication would go well.

I thought about that, but with me, since my natal Mercury is retrograde, I noticed that I am not as affected by the communication difficulties as other people with a direct Mercury. I have, on the other hand, heard from old jobs, old friends and even exes during those times. But, it's usually not the ex I want to hear from (then again I never wanted to hear from an ex until now) :-( ...

quote:
...it looks like Jupiter will transit your 7th house in the near future. That is a good time for marriage.

Jupiter transits, eh, I really don't notice that much from them. When Jupiter was going through my 5th house, I put myself out there on a couple of internet dating sites and while a couple of guys talked to me, it didn't lead anywhere. When I say "anywhere" I mean not even a first date or meeting. I don't know. Jupiter going through my sixth has made it easier to get a daily routine going though, I have noticed that. It is because of some effort on my part though. I managed to change myself from a night person to a day person.

I am keeping my fingers crossed though. Maybe when it hits the Sun (7th house ruler) it'll be nice for me...

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downtomars
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posted May 08, 2014 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am really trying though, but this has hit me pretty hard. I still don't know what to do...

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fauxcoat
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posted May 08, 2014 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am in the same boat. I have mercury retrograde natally and Jupiter is going to transit my 7th house soon (not sure when) and hope that helps with making things a little better in my life.

I really think you need to put yourself out there...find some organizations or clubs that have get togethers or happy hours. Just talk to people...I am sure you will feel much better about yourself.

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posted May 08, 2014 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fauxcoat-----

Transit Uranus is opposing that entire stellium in your 8th house like a torch. That's gonna make things come and go in your life. The feeling of uncertainty with everything. Right now, it's close opposition to both Pluto and Mars making you moody and obsessive. It's also in almost exact trine to natal Saturn. Trine is not that bad, but it may make you indecisive, but flexible. You roll with the punches. There is going to be a level of disappointment, but not a deep dark hole. I'm not the best at charts, so get some other advice. However, 8th house stellium is not good for a natal to begin with. 8th house things are out of your control. Your aspects are very good, though!! That balances you quite a bit!

Eta: Also, this cardinal cross is not your friend. Everything is in Libra

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posted May 08, 2014 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fauxcoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much LoadedPistil! I guess the tears will be shedding for a while longer :0(

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posted May 09, 2014 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't heard from him since Tuesday...
It gets me sad because I am not usually like this!!! I get over things in a week, write about them and it's okay but I am really sad about this one. I thought it would work out. I should have known it wouldn't though, he was coming on too strong right out of the gate, asking me to find jobs in his area, telling me that I could move in with him before we even met. I should have know that he had issues...

I am wondering if the T. Jupiter in my 7th with T. Saturn trine my Venus early next year (March, April) will be a better time for me relationship-wise?

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