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KarkaQueen
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posted May 09, 2014 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This spirit I'm channeling recently, is a very old spirit and I'm not sure what his specific intentions are. I know he has hard problems connecting with me and he probably has some judgments of his own.

So here are my questions: What are his intentions, his motives? How does he regard me? What should I do with him? (I was looking to astral project to his realm so I could connect to him more or is that just a waste of time)?

I'm somewhat distressed by this situation. Again, sorry if I seem selfish but I need some clarification too lol.

I will exchange if you want. You can ask on my other thread or this one.

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cherful24
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posted May 09, 2014 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, here are the messages I got and there blunt...... but I think once you feel the bluntness you'll move on.

he doesn't want to help. you're the only one forcing it

iTs nice and kind of you to try to understand him but he doesn't want to be involved in your project. now I don't know if this project is this one person you're trying to get answers 4 or this whole thing in general.... especially on a larger scale.... he cannot offer that type of energy right now.... I feel its more than that I feel it the issue at hand that's bothering him

There is no malice or harm or dishonesty on his part, but he's not happy because again I feel he's feeling as if he's being forced into doing something he's not into

I don't want to say you're wasting your time its not that you're wasting your time if you have to choose what he is best suited for and you're getting the fighting energy of disconnect because this isn't something he feels he can do a wants to do

..... perhaps whatever this project is , if the person or whatever the energy is too dark for him and he doesn't want to go there..... he's not feeling comfortable with it ...so it's not you...... its a actual subject matter that he's not feeling comfortable with and doesn't want to be a part of

did you say that he was an old man? whatever you're trying to channel him for whatever that is I think it relates to him , something happened to him as a child... and I would leave it alone

I hope this helps and I hope it resonates. I really do get an overwhelming sense of uncomfortable but this spirit will be available to you later on in a more safe contact, he'll help you then. and I should say that it's being recognized that you're trying to understand him he gets that but he's putting up a block.

when you have time if you can tell me anything about a good man coming into my life that would offer me partnership (and not waste my time) that actually wants me to be his partner , and like when? that be fabulous, when u have time , thanks!

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KarkaQueen
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posted May 09, 2014 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cherful24:
Ok, here are the messages I got and there blunt...... but I think once you feel the bluntness you'll move on.

he doesn't want to help. you're the only one forcing it

iTs nice and kind of you to try to understand him but he doesn't want to be involved in your project. now I don't know if this project is this one person you're trying to get answers 4 or this whole thing in general.... especially on a larger scale.... he cannot offer that type of energy right now.... I feel its more than that I feel it the issue at hand that's bothering him

There is no malice or harm or dishonesty on his part, but he's not happy because again I feel he's feeling as if he's being forced into doing something he's not into

I don't want to say you're wasting your time its not that you're wasting your time if you have to choose what he is best suited for and you're getting the fighting energy of disconnect because this isn't something he feels he can do a wants to do

..... perhaps whatever this project is , if the person or whatever the energy is too dark for him and he doesn't want to go there..... he's not feeling comfortable with it ...so it's not you...... its a actual subject matter that he's not feeling comfortable with and doesn't want to be a part of

did you say that he was an old man? whatever you're trying to channel him for whatever that is I think it relates to him , something happened to him as a child... and I would leave it alone

I hope this helps and I hope it resonates. I really do get an overwhelming sense of uncomfortable but this spirit will be available to you later on in a more safe contact, he'll help you then. and I should say that it's being recognized that you're trying to understand him he gets that but he's putting up a block.

when you have time if you can tell me anything about a good man coming into my life that would offer me partnership (and not waste my time) that actually wants me to be his partner , and like when? that be fabulous, when u have time , thanks!


I'm not offended lol I understand. I didn't detect any hatred or meanness for him or me from that matter. I'm the one who sense spiritual things but I tend to be "forceful" with it (unconsciously). This is my problem.

When does later mean? Months, days, or years? (its not paramount to me but its still curious nonetheless). Why is the issue unsafe here? Is it because I'm being forceful or there's something with the aura or the airs?

Tho I understand lol. Its one of the least receptive spirits I contacted before. (but not malevolent or mean at all..)

Perhaps its my vibe thats putting him off? idk.. it was weird the energies he was sending to me and they were off and on.

He's not an "old man" but a old spirit, his death was in 1857. I think there might be certain ideologies he has that puts him off from me a bit as well, and the fact that I was asking him personal questions (he has a diary-book that I'm reading and he often demonstrated strange, conflicting views and I was fascinated by him for quite some time).

I had a feeling of this but could not confirm it thank you for telling me this..


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THE CURRENT SITUATION OF YOUR LOVE LIFE:
8 of CUPS / 4 of COINS / 7 of CUPS (SUN)
You're currently (depressingly) withdrawed from any romantic feelings at this point, you're more concerned of your selfish desires for your own pleasures; you're not concerned with your partners needs and you're more interested in your practical/mundane pursuits. Despite all this though you have a fancy at several other men, you want to indulge in your new "freedom" and go on dates with either one of the many love interests you have.
This relates to issues of the ego and emotional security.
YOUR UNCONSCIOUS EMOTIONS AT PLAY AFFECTING IT: 2 of Coins + Page of Wands + Hierophant = Chariot
You're completely neutral at this point or indifferent, however you're highly aware of other people's reciprocated romantic/sexual interest in you and it sparks an immature, direct-less passion in you. A sense of adventure comes to you while being able to move through acceptable boundaries of society. There is an impulse of you moving on from your previous relationship patterns.

UNCONTROLLABLE THINGS AFFECTING IT: Knight of Coins + Queen of Swords + 2 of Swords = High Priestess
What you cannot control or confront is the dull repetitive nature of your love life. You are bound to be cold or not able to show your affections very highly or your partner is. Your partner or you are always uncertain of the relationship and not fond of taking any steps to help it move on. This relates to your spiritual issues most likely formed throughout your childhood and your projected feelings are what is attracted your bad partners.


YOUR ROMANTIC TENDENCIES:
7 of Swords / 6 of Cups / 2 of Wands = Devil
You take long to open up to your partners and you often misread body language and are very suspicious of their motives. While you are distant and uncomfortable in your approach to romance.. you frequently fantasize about finding the soulmate partner and looking at the other side of the grass.. you can pick up whether or not your man is the "one" and so you're often disappointed and pessimistic.
This is trapping you in your chance to grow in relationships and you're often repeating the mistakes over and over again.

YOUR PARTNER'S TENDENCIES:
4 of Swords + Page of Cups + Page of Coins = Emperor
Your partners are mentally restless but seemingly impassioned, do they seem to be superficial or out there? Their affection for you tends to be.. immature crushes with no real value to them. Seemingly emotionally obsessed or clingy.. they also have a fixation on your sensual/body presence. Are they the dominate ones in the relationship? Or you will react how they often react? ( I have a feeling you're disgusted by a guy falling all of you and acting extremely clingy )

WHEN WILL A NEW PARTNER COME:Queen Wands / Strength / King Coins

I have a feeling its around summertime. Sorry for the vague answer.

HOW HE WILL BE LIKE IN GENERAL: Ace of Wands / 9 of Swords / 6 of Swords = Devil
He is a passionate and highly sexual man but may not open that to you because he's mentally distraught from a relationship, he will also appear to be distant or perhaps from a faraway place? He has a lot of demons to battle watch out.

TO YOU IN THE RELATIONSHIP/TENDENCIES:Ace of Swords / Chariot / King of Cups
You link together mentally and have the same ideologies and thoughts, you will often be able to finish the same sentence. He is a very bold and passionate man who would want to push the relationship to a more emotional connection that you're not often use to.

RELATIONSHIP ENERGIES (PASSIVE): Wheel of Fortune - 5 of Wands - The Tower = Emperor
The passive energies are you will often feel your relationship is moving quickly and your arguments will not last very long. You feel something is "leading" your relationship, an outer influence not neither of you.

RELATIONSHIP ENERGIES (ACTIVE): 10 of Wands / King of Wands / 10 of Cups = Judgement
You will feel oppressed and crushed by the hands of your partner, he will have a fiery temper and have things go his way whether you like it or not, but like I said its for the better and he would want you to open up more. Expect an intense and very romantic union. Very psychic and astrally connected I believe..

OUTCOME:Queen of Cups / 5 of Coins / 2 of Cups = Chariot

You will finally give yourself fully to a man in this relationship, and by that I mean emotionally receptive to him and express your inner pain and feelings. By that you two will connect and you will feel safe with him. and you will progress...

Hope i ts right!

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KarkaQueen
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From: Uranus
Registered: May 2011

posted May 09, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cherful24:
Ok, here are the messages I got and there blunt...... but I think once you feel the bluntness you'll move on.

he doesn't want to help. you're the only one forcing it

iTs nice and kind of you to try to understand him but he doesn't want to be involved in your project. now I don't know if this project is this one person you're trying to get answers 4 or this whole thing in general.... especially on a larger scale.... he cannot offer that type of energy right now.... I feel its more than that I feel it the issue at hand that's bothering him

There is no malice or harm or dishonesty on his part, but he's not happy because again I feel he's feeling as if he's being forced into doing something he's not into

I don't want to say you're wasting your time its not that you're wasting your time if you have to choose what he is best suited for and you're getting the fighting energy of disconnect because this isn't something he feels he can do a wants to do

..... perhaps whatever this project is , if the person or whatever the energy is too dark for him and he doesn't want to go there..... he's not feeling comfortable with it ...so it's not you...... its a actual subject matter that he's not feeling comfortable with and doesn't want to be a part of

did you say that he was an old man? whatever you're trying to channel him for whatever that is I think it relates to him , something happened to him as a child... and I would leave it alone

I hope this helps and I hope it resonates. I really do get an overwhelming sense of uncomfortable but this spirit will be available to you later on in a more safe contact, he'll help you then. and I should say that it's being recognized that you're trying to understand him he gets that but he's putting up a block.

when you have time if you can tell me anything about a good man coming into my life that would offer me partnership (and not waste my time) that actually wants me to be his partner , and like when? that be fabulous, when u have time , thanks!


I'm not offended lol I understand. I didn't detect any hatred or meanness for him or me from that matter. I'm the one who sense spiritual things but I tend to be "forceful" with it (unconsciously). This is my problem.

When does later mean? Months, days, or years? (its not paramount to me but its still curious nonetheless). Why is the issue unsafe here? Is it because I'm being forceful or there's something with the aura or the airs?

Tho I understand lol. Its one of the least receptive spirits I contacted before. (but not malevolent or mean at all..)

Perhaps its my vibe thats putting him off? idk.. it was weird the energies he was sending to me and they were off and on.

He's not an "old man" but a old spirit, his death was in 1857. I think there might be certain ideologies he has that puts him off from me a bit as well, and the fact that I was asking him personal questions (he has a diary-book that I'm reading and he often demonstrated strange, conflicting views and I was fascinated by him for quite some time).

I had a feeling of this but could not confirm it thank you for telling me this..


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

THE CURRENT SITUATION OF YOUR LOVE LIFE:
8 of CUPS / 4 of COINS / 7 of CUPS (SUN)
You're currently (depressingly) withdrawed from any romantic feelings at this point, you're more concerned of your selfish desires for your own pleasures; you're not concerned with your partners needs and you're more interested in your practical/mundane pursuits. Despite all this though you have a fancy at several other men, you want to indulge in your new "freedom" and go on dates with either one of the many love interests you have.
This relates to issues of the ego and emotional security.
YOUR UNCONSCIOUS EMOTIONS AT PLAY AFFECTING IT: 2 of Coins + Page of Wands + Hierophant = Chariot
You're completely neutral at this point or indifferent, however you're highly aware of other people's reciprocated romantic/sexual interest in you and it sparks an immature, direct-less passion in you. A sense of adventure comes to you while being able to move through acceptable boundaries of society. There is an impulse of you moving on from your previous relationship patterns.

UNCONTROLLABLE THINGS AFFECTING IT: Knight of Coins + Queen of Swords + 2 of Swords = High Priestess
What you cannot control or confront is the dull repetitive nature of your love life. You are bound to be cold or not able to show your affections very highly or your partner is. Your partner or you are always uncertain of the relationship and not fond of taking any steps to help it move on. This relates to your spiritual issues most likely formed throughout your childhood and your projected feelings are what is attracted your bad partners.


YOUR ROMANTIC TENDENCIES:
7 of Swords / 6 of Cups / 2 of Wands = Devil
You take long to open up to your partners and you often misread body language and are very suspicious of their motives. While you are distant and uncomfortable in your approach to romance.. you frequently fantasize about finding the soulmate partner and looking at the other side of the grass.. you can pick up whether or not your man is the "one" and so you're often disappointed and pessimistic.
This is trapping you in your chance to grow in relationships and you're often repeating the mistakes over and over again.

YOUR PARTNER'S TENDENCIES:
4 of Swords + Page of Cups + Page of Coins = Emperor
Your partners are mentally restless but seemingly impassioned, do they seem to be superficial or out there? Their affection for you tends to be.. immature crushes with no real value to them. Seemingly emotionally obsessed or clingy.. they also have a fixation on your sensual/body presence. Are they the dominate ones in the relationship? Or you will react how they often react? ( I have a feeling you're disgusted by a guy falling all of you and acting extremely clingy )

WHEN WILL A NEW PARTNER COME:Queen Wands / Strength / King Coins

I have a feeling its around summertime. Sorry for the vague answer.

HOW HE WILL BE LIKE IN GENERAL: Ace of Wands / 9 of Swords / 6 of Swords = Devil
He is a passionate and highly sexual man but may not open that to you because he's mentally distraught from a relationship, he will also appear to be distant or perhaps from a faraway place? He has a lot of demons to battle watch out.

TO YOU IN THE RELATIONSHIP/TENDENCIES:Ace of Swords / Chariot / King of Cups
You link together mentally and have the same ideologies and thoughts, you will often be able to finish the same sentence. He is a very bold and passionate man who would want to push the relationship to a more emotional connection that you're not often use to.

RELATIONSHIP ENERGIES (PASSIVE): Wheel of Fortune - 5 of Wands - The Tower = Emperor
The passive energies are you will often feel your relationship is moving quickly and your arguments will not last very long. You feel something is "leading" your relationship, an outer influence not neither of you.

RELATIONSHIP ENERGIES (ACTIVE): 10 of Wands / King of Wands / 10 of Cups = Judgement
You will feel oppressed and crushed by the hands of your partner, he will have a fiery temper and have things go his way whether you like it or not, but like I said its for the better and he would want you to open up more. Expect an intense and very romantic union. Very psychic and astrally connected I believe..

OUTCOME:Queen of Cups / 5 of Coins / 2 of Cups = Chariot

You will finally give yourself fully to a man in this relationship, and by that I mean emotionally receptive to him and express your inner pain and feelings. By that you two will connect and you will feel safe with him. and you will progress...

Hope i ts right!

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cherful24
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posted May 09, 2014 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he will be your guide when he's comfortable with what you're seeking. he's more than happy to help but he has to be ready to help you with not you he doesn't necessarily being you and he don't have a connection is right now he can do that.

call on him for other subject matters and what he can help you with he will when he can't he will not. he's super blunt! he will never lead you in the wrong way but he will stray, if his wishes aren't respected. and it's not necessarily that you have to read all about him and know all about him in order to call on him and I think that is where the disconnect is right now. there's a subject matter that he's not feeling comfortable with so if it's because you're reading up on him and finding you know his dark secrets or what, maybe that could probably be that subject matter that I was talking about.

he might not be best used for questions on romance.. he's very cut and dry short and blunt!

when he's ready he'll come to you so you might feel his presence or get it a subconscious voice of him.

thank you for your reading, I would definitely say that resonates. I think It's my body that they're attracted to... and I am sure some fetish goes into that as my body is very voluptuous, like there TV show baywatch.

for the past few years I haven't really found anyone that wanted a relationship... I like it got me worried for a bit like I was not able to attract anybody that wanted me. but yeah I had a really bad ex who was seeing me even thou he was getting married to somebody else and basically left me and tried to come back, it was all a mess and the messed with me a great deal!

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cherful24
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posted May 09, 2014 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if not your vibes that's putting him off he's more than willing to help when he feels the subject matter is correct for him to do so.

so I don't know what the subject matter is I don't know if you called upon him for a certain issue or if you called upon him to seek his background and his experience to gain some clarity for yourself or that subject matter is actually reading up on him. there's something in his past I feel...as a boy that strikes a chord with him that he doesn't feel comfortable with... so again it could be the subject matter is related to what he went through or its the uncomfortable feeling that you're reading about it....... I cannot be too sure which it is.

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KarkaQueen
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posted May 09, 2014 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. He's also a Leo Sun Capricorn Moon spirit. Yikes lol.

Oh I hope you get better. Thank you for your time and dedication. I feel your pain and woes as well, I hope you're not too depressed now.

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KarkaQueen
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posted May 09, 2014 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cherful24:
if not your vibes that's putting him off he's more than willing to help when he feels the subject matter is correct for him to do so.

so I don't know what the subject matter is I don't know if you called upon him for a certain issue or if you called upon him to seek his background and his experience to gain some clarity for yourself or that subject matter is actually reading up on him. there's something in his past I feel...as a boy that strikes a chord with him that he doesn't feel comfortable with... so again it could be the subject matter is related to what he went through or its the uncomfortable feeling that you're reading about it....... I cannot be too sure which it is.


ya its in his past. its his views and intolerance on things (at least in his life). do you think he changed or something or he just doesn't want to discuss such matters with me?

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cherful24
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posted May 09, 2014 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think he's changed I just don't think he wants to discuss it..... for whatever reason I'm getting this.... I think he was trying to have/hope for more of a sympathetic.... almost motherly approach, instead he feels more of a dry approach.... almost like a psych doctor trying to get to the root of why someone did what they did

can I ask one more question please? so the short of the story is that me and my ex have always stayed friends he recently got married and he is helping me dismiss a law suit case. I've had a habit of cutting the conversation short and being more dismisses when he tries to talk because I don't know what boundaries there are and I don't want to look like I'm a crossing any... and of course it for my own self protection too because buried deep down there are still feelings for him

but I realized the other day that I might have been too abrupt and hurt his feelings or at least triggered something in him... he was a bit different the phone call afterwards.

so the other night I gave him a Starbucks gift card via Facebook saying thAnk you for helping me and I also thanked him for being there with my dad passing and with my horrible ex boyfriend who Inwhich he let me cry to him.... the last two were before he was even engaged.... but I have helped him out in ways as well. but anyways, so I put on the note card, thank you and I do appreciate it u have been there for me and if you ever needed anything not to hesitate to contact me.

so I did hear from him today via email about the case and he'll show up to court so I don't have to go but he didn't mention anything about the gift card I sent him and I know he got it because Facebook notified me that he did.

I hope I didn't cross the line and I hope he didn't think it was appropriate

what can you tell me about this?


QUOTE]Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
ya its in his past. its his views and intolerance on things (at least in his life). do you think he changed or something or he just doesn't want to discuss such matters with me? [/QUOTE]

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