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virgolotus
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posted June 16, 2014 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I don't have his birth time so please disregard houses for now. Right now I just want to focus on his planets and his Grand Cross and all the squares.

Please help me help him.

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posted June 16, 2014 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's in a really dark place right now and like with most Grand Cross' he has all these things going on at once and has that hastiness and lack of focus which is frustrating!! I've never seen him this bad so please help!

I promise I will get all his data soon but right now I really don't mind I just want to get a taste of his chart first and want to see what you guys think.

Thanks

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posted June 16, 2014 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
stubborn, selfish, sly but pretends he's dumb, materialistic, sweet, impulsive, carefree, aggressive, protective, and knows how to conceal a lot...

but right now he's at the point of suicide attempt: 2 1/2
i've been helping him out but he's really stubborn and i can't help but be stubborn too and care about him. can anyone please just give me some insights? thnx

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posted June 17, 2014 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need more when working with chart, ie tob so I pulled 3 cards for you - asking in which way should you help him - and got:

5 of Swords + Page of Pentacles (Ace of Swords) + 6 of Wands

Help from reversed psychology? (first thought)

Be frank & direct, spill the bare truth to him; and provoke him a bit, but don't forget the stuff that makes him great. It's all about the talk that would keep him afloat.

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posted June 17, 2014 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Note: 29 Pisces (especially when in the Sun or Moon) is a sign of suicide and depression or death by drowning.
Mars in Cancer shows me he rarely makes assertive decisions but he does a lot of imagining about it and he lets out his anger when he's really comfortable with the situation or people or when at home.
Mars opposite Uranus-Neptune
More Neptunian energies on the masculine points!
He often feels disillusioned and too weak to do anything but he does a lot of fantasizing on what he's going to do and when he strikes MAN is it unpredictable and scary.. he's also very poor with boundaries and his temper rouses in the worst and in ways when you don't expect it..
Venus rx square Neptune-Uranus
Does he have problems with love and that is the main issue for his depression? If that Moon-Saturn is forever, which I have feeling it is, it shows that his mother was very restricting and cold and he has a poor image of women and is very insecure with them and about his masculinity which often does not leave up to their expectations. I think he is poor with boundaries in love and has really false expectations and delusions of grandeur.. bad with boundaries in romance

Neptune-Uranus square Jupiter, Jupiter opposite Venus, Jupiter square Mars
He has a bad sense of morals.. very weird.. makes everyone uncomfortable..gah

He has this poor, fragile character. He's very damaged..

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posted June 17, 2014 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cardinal Grand Cross (afflicted). Most of his life and actions had with the theme of him being the leader but not taking his role seriously and just letting others influence him while he's just passive..

I can sense him being a psychic vampire, very untrustworthy and stealing your thing (energy, emotionally, you name it).. acts poorly but you can't help but to either abuse him .. look at him with disgust.. or feel sorry for this dark scared child reacting vulnerably to a dark world.

Idk that is my impression.. what do u think?

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posted June 18, 2014 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I need more when working with chart, ie tob so I pulled 3 cards for you - asking in which way should you help him - and got:

5 of Swords + Page of Pentacles (Ace of Swords) + 6 of Wands

Help from reversed psychology? (first thought)

Be frank & direct, spill the bare truth to him; and provoke him a bit, but don't forget the stuff that makes him great. It's all about the talk that would keep him afloat.


That;s exactly what I've been doing. I almost feel like his father scolding him, lol. I've been on his a$$ non-stop trying to straighten him out. I'll ask for his time of birth tomorrow. Thank you for taking the time and pulling cards for me. It's greatly appreciated!~

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posted June 18, 2014 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Note: 29 Pisces (especially when in the Sun or Moon) is a sign of suicide and depression or death by drowning.
Mars in Cancer shows me he rarely makes assertive decisions but he does a lot of imagining about it and he lets out his anger when he's really comfortable with the situation or people or when at home.
Mars opposite Uranus-Neptune
More Neptunian energies on the masculine points!
He often feels disillusioned and too weak to do anything but he does a lot of fantasizing on what he's going to do and when he strikes MAN is it unpredictable and scary.. he's also very poor with boundaries and his temper rouses in the worst and in ways when you don't expect it..
Venus rx square Neptune-Uranus
Does he have problems with love and that is the main issue for his depression? If that Moon-Saturn is forever, which I have feeling it is, it shows that his mother was very restricting and cold and he has a poor image of women and is very insecure with them and about his masculinity which often does not leave up to their expectations. I think he is poor with boundaries in love and has really false expectations and delusions of grandeur.. bad with boundaries in romance

Neptune-Uranus square Jupiter, Jupiter opposite Venus, Jupiter square Mars
He has a bad sense of morals.. very weird.. makes everyone uncomfortable..gah

He has this poor, fragile character. He's very damaged..


Everything you mentioned is right on key! Perfect.
He barely is assertive, yes, and he has anger issues and when he gets angry it's come without a warning and it's pretty bad. He does express his anger mostly at home, especially towards his mom. I spoke to her and he was being really abusive towards her. I witnessed it too so I scolded him for it because that just isn't right.
Yes. His depression mostly stems from love... he feels the girls he dates are something so special and does the whole Libra-merging thing almost. But, sadly, in the end they end up screwing him over which he takes it at heart.
Yes his morals aren't that great... he has some really bad habits which he knows how to conceal well *sometimes*. His view on women: he thinks all they're good for is screwing you over but at the same time he's a hopeless romantic. He has no judgement when it comes to love.
He's diabetic and doesn't take care of himself and it worries me. Right now, it seems he's doing better because he knows I'm there for him. Prior to em he had no one except a friend that was only holding his head under water even more so I kicked him out of his life.
Idk why but I really care about this person but right now I'm feeling a little hopeless but seeing these posts from you guys is really lifting my spirits and encouraging me to not give up on him. Thanks guys <3

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posted June 18, 2014 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Cardinal Grand Cross (afflicted). Most of his life and actions had with the theme of him being the leader but not taking his role seriously and just letting others influence him while he's just passive..

I can sense him being a psychic vampire, very untrustworthy and stealing your thing (energy, emotionally, you name it).. acts poorly but you can't help but to either abuse him .. look at him with disgust.. or feel sorry for this dark scared child reacting vulnerably to a dark world.

Idk that is my impression.. what do u think?


He victimizes himself a lot and dramatizes his problems, yes. At first meeting him I thought he was wonderful but as I got to meet him and as I become my cynical self he showed me his colors and he is very untrustworthy because again, he knows how to hide how sly he really is. He's stolen from me once and I lost all respect for him but I got over it because I can't help but feel for this damaged soul. I'm the only one he has atm and I feel almost obligated to help. He does drain me sometimes but lately all I do is turn his energy into the passion that helps me keep him as stable as I can. I don't dwell with him at all...

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posted June 18, 2014 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad I got it right.
Say, can you tell me his midpoint
Sun/North Node
Venus/Mars

??? I can't calculate.

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posted June 18, 2014 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by virgolotus:
That;s exactly what I've been doing. I almost feel like his father scolding him, lol. I've been on his a$$ non-stop trying to straighten him out. I'll ask for his time of birth tomorrow. Thank you for taking the time and pulling cards for me. It's greatly appreciated!~

Yes,confront him. If there're other people who influence him badly, I think this is the advice to go after them.

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posted June 23, 2014 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I'm glad I got it right.
Say, can you tell me his midpoint
Sun/North Node
Venus/Mars

??? I can't calculate.


Do you just need the degrees?

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posted June 23, 2014 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"there is an option on Astro-com

Go to Extended chart selection.

Under Chart drawing style pick "Ebertin style (w. midpoints)"

Then go to the data sheet, and voila, there you will see all the midpoings, including angles and asteroids" -- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202860.html

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