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hannaramaa
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posted July 18, 2014 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a syanstry chart I was wondering if you could look at.

Let me know what you'd like in return

PS. This time its with a guy I was actually involved with so I'll be able to give more feedback.

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posted July 19, 2014 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I have a syanstry chart I was wondering if you could look at.

Let me know what you'd like in return

PS. This time its with a guy I was actually involved with so I'll be able to give more feedback.


Hi Hanna! Just saw this- yes would be more than happy to look at it! Go ahead and post the chart: include asteroids 433, 16, 3811, 447, 1221, 1585, 6583 and 390

Could I get a tarot reading? My question is: why didn't D ever tell me he loved me? Thx

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posted July 19, 2014 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would also risk a glance at 4386

oh and 3

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posted July 19, 2014 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I would also risk a glance at 4386

oh and 3


Ooh, good ones..thanks!

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posted July 19, 2014 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where`s the chart?
I am curious, too.

Is it a tragic love story? Or one with happy end?

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posted July 19, 2014 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just saw this! I will get to working on the tarot reading now.

And Ceri - a) you're not on A eclectic Tarot as well are you? And B) it seems to be in the works and moving at a snail's pace...lots of storms but not completely over yet.

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posted July 19, 2014 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TGem - wow I got another clear reading this is hood, you're asking all the right questions for your spirit's journey lately. What I get is that D came from a dysfunctional household and maybe is still working out issues with how he was raised? His mother wasn't very emotional with him, maybe she worked and Idk...I just feel a lot of stress around his home life, and he learned to keep his feelings to himself. I think he felt picked on. Its because of this that he has issues showing respect and love towards anybody even if he knows they deserve it.

I asked if he indeed loved you and got Knight of Wands RX 10 of Wands and 9 of Swords RX. So, not the most ideal cards but yes he did and again here we see him bottling up his feelings and it causing him to lose sleep over it somewhat. In his own way he loved you. Was he very possessive of you, or maybe meaner to you than other people? People who are abused tend to repeat that, as anyone can tell you, but they believe the abuseD is aware and understands this is some kind of privilege bestowed on them, since the abuser normally doesn't treat anyone this way.

I could be WAY off with this. Let me know!

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posted July 19, 2014 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 19, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
TGem - wow I got another clear reading this is hood, you're asking all the right questions for your spirit's journey lately. What I get is that D came from a dysfunctional household and maybe is still working out issues with how he was raised? His mother wasn't very emotional with him, maybe she worked and Idk...I just feel a lot of stress around his home life, and he learned to keep his feelings to himself. I think he felt picked on. Its because of this that he has issues showing respect and love towards anybody even if he knows they deserve it.

I asked if he indeed loved you and got Knight of Wands RX 10 of Wands and 9 of Swords RX. So, not the most ideal cards but yes he did and again here we see him bottling up his feelings and it causing him to lose sleep over it somewhat. In his own way he loved you. Was he very possessive of you, or maybe meaner to you than other people? People who are abused tend to repeat that, as anyone can tell you, but they believe the abuseD is aware and understands this is some kind of privilege bestowed on them, since the abuser normally doesn't treat anyone this way.

I could be WAY off with this. Let me know!


Damn......
Ok so here's where I believe you're right on: yes, I do believe he was picked on to an extent. He was the youngest of 3 by 10 years..an oops boy to 2 older sisters. He was constantly reminded that he was an oops child and so maybe took that after a while as "his parents never wanted him." I don't know a lot about the relationship with his mom other than I think maybe she was too busy for him? His dad has had a difficult influence on him too. He is an extremely successful pharmaceutical rep who's dad constantly tried to tell him how drugs were bad and "all natural" was the way to go...so maybe a lack of approval from his father as well?

Anyway, that's all I know. I don't believe he was possessive of me, yes, I strongly believe he loved me but I just can't place why he wouldn't tell me? Whether it was ultimate fear of rejection? Or just didnt understand what he was feeling or how to express it if he never got it at home? Maybe there was some emotional abuse at home..but I never really saw him as being abused or messed up..

I guess now I wonder if he associates neglect/emotional abuse with love? That makes me sad

Oh and BTW..his wife treats him like crap by cutting down his self esteem as well, I believe this is based on fear of him leaving her so she makes him feel not good enough for someone else maybe?

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posted July 19, 2014 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. Okay, so the Devil could represent an unhappy or unfulfilling marriage. Ironically no, I didn't feel anything about the father. Not ruling it out but just saying I feel it had to do more with his mother (or the Queen could be his wife too, or both.)

As for why he wouldn't tell you...based on your feedback now I would probably say its a case of low self esteem and worrying it was one sided (10 of Wands, carrying the emotions and all that passion by yourself).

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posted July 19, 2014 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen - do you have any questions?

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posted July 19, 2014 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:

Okie dokie here we go..
So as far as the overall compatibility I saw some nice overlays of his planets in your relationship houses: his mars and Pluto in your 5th, venus in your 7th and his moon in your 8th. This means he activated the feelings of romance, partnership and passion within you? These are key placements when looking for overall relationship compatibility. There are/were very deep emotions running through this relationship because on top of his moon falling in your 8th, you have a moon/Pluto DW (his moon sextile your Pluto and your moon/lust conjunction opposite his Pluto.) this synastry has a very scorpionic theme to it...confirmed by your Destinn conjunct his Pluto in Scorpio! Yes, this is a soulmate relationship with his eros sextile your psyche that was meant to trigger transformation and growth in both of you. There is also healing that is meant to occur between you with your Chirons conjunct. He is meant to evoke healing in regards to your 1st house issues, you're to evoke healing in regards to his 5th house issues. I also noticed something very interesting in regards to your synastry..when looking at which of your planets fell in his relationship houses, I didn't notice as much activity- none of your planets fall into his 5th, 7th or 8th. Normally this can point to one person being more attracted/affected by the synastry. However, you will notice that your eros (higher octave of mars/passion) falls in his 5th house of romance, and your valentine, union, alma (meaning soul) conjunction fell smack on his DSC! So in this case I feel there was definitely mutual attraction and components for a successful/loving partnership. What's more, Alma to Juno and/or union is being found in high level soulmate relationships. Interestingly, he has a natal Juno/Union conjunction and you have a natal Union/alma conjunction! So his Juno/union conjunction is opposite your Juno and makes a wide opposition to your union/alma conjunction. Bottom line..this is very significant. This pairing is even being found in confirmed twinflame relationships. And in case you didn't get the point, the stars re-iterated it by making his Amor (unconditional love) conjunct your Juno (marriage asteroid,) his NN (future life lessons) conjunct your Amor and his Juno/union conjunct your NN. Could the message be any clearer??!! His moon in the 12th shows he has very strong empathy and intuition and conjunct your neptune shows there can be significant telepathy between you. You also have two nice Cinderella links with his venus and neptune opposite your chiron. These are "true love" aspects.

Ok so that's for starters, what's the nature of the relationship now? Happy ending? Tragic romance?

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posted July 19, 2014 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Interesting. Okay, so the Devil could represent an unhappy or unfulfilling marriage. Ironically no, I didn't feel anything about the father. Not ruling it out but just saying I feel it had to do more with his mother (or the Queen could be his wife too, or both.)

As for why he wouldn't tell you...based on your feedback now I would probably say its a case of low self esteem and worrying it was one sided (10 of Wands, carrying the emotions and all that passion by yourself).


Oh yeah, this makes sense now. Definitely an unhappy/unfulfilled marriage! And yes...the low self-esteem part resognates completely. Thx

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posted July 19, 2014 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem

Sigh. I believe he's my soul mate, twinflame, I just don't know if I'll get to experience it completely. He lives out of state and we haven't been formally close (meaning on speaking terms, having conversation) for a long time, but we still very much keep in touch.

Do you mind if I email you about it instead?

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posted July 20, 2014 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 20, 2014 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Just saw this! I will get to working on the tarot reading now.

And Ceri - a) you're not on A eclectic Tarot as well are you? And B) it seems to be in the works and moving at a snail's pace...lots of storms but not completely over yet.


You mean the tarot forum?
No, not a member over there, though I read on there very frequently. Very interesting interpretations and perspectives. I tend to quote them a lot in emails to a friend of mine. lol

Especially looking out for what Thirteen`s got to say.
But there are some other members on there who are REALLY good, too.

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posted July 20, 2014 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hanna,

is his birthtime unknown?

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posted July 20, 2014 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Tgem

Sigh. I believe he's my soul mate, twinflame, I just don't know if I'll get to experience it completely. He lives out of state and we haven't been formally close (meaning on speaking terms, having conversation) for a long time, but we still very much keep in touch.

Do you mind if I email you about it instead?


Of course! I'll put my email up for a bit..let me know when you have it and then I'll edit it out. The guy that I asked about I'm very confident is my TF...Ceri knows a ton about the story. So I sympathize with you completely. Ceri has a good point, are you a 100% sure about his birth time? I feel his may be a bit off because I think the angles are off. If you can get the exact TOB we can probably confirm if he's your TF or not...either way, a significant soulmate relationship for sure. My email is Jamie.bican@yahoo.com.

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posted July 20, 2014 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Tgem, an important soulmate for sure, and TONS of attraction from you to him, I certainly can see why he attracts you.
I am not yet completely sure about him, due to the shady birthtime.
As of now I wouldn`t think of twinflames, seeing your charts, including the composite, though. But if you feel this is what he is, who am I to tell you otherwise?

Feelings first, astrology second.

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posted July 20, 2014 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A) ATTENTION SEEKING ASPECTS
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(those that grabbed my attention on first glance)


1) his Jupiter conjunct your Sun, Mercury and Venus in your 11th house;

in your chart Jupiter rules your DESC, so he brings your own DESC ruler to your stellium - that is what I call a "PROJECTED houseruler", so in a way you see that DESC-potential in him (though it does not say it is really there in reality), it also includes your own 5th house ruler Venus.
The fact that your 5th house rulers falls into 11th house indicates that this is a vibration you need for falling in love, and he more than fulfills that need, with his Jupiter showering this stellium of yours; it would be interesting to see where Jupiter falls in his own chart and what house it rules.


2) his Venus, URanus and Saturn on your DESC, again through projected houserulers he brings the planets that rule your own 5th and 8h house (sexual erotic romantic transformational vibes) to your desc and it becomes very prominent.
However with Venus being conjunct Uranus and Saturn natally for him, he might be constantly being torn between freedom and obligation. And you accentuate this dilemma for him.

3) your Moon, ruler of your 2nd house in Taurus in your 11th house - which brings up a lot of need for being emotionally and personally validated; well everyone needs that, but if it comes up like this, it is of extra importantce.

However his Pluto, falling into your 5th house (intense, intense, intense!) is opposing this exactly. The emotional intensity and passion must be simply out of this world and especially for you feeling completely cathartic and compelling.

With his Neptune widely trine your Moon, and Neptune in his 7th, there comes a certain glamour into this as well, softening the edges of that Moon-Pluto-power-opposition, and make it maybe seem more romantic and soft, but don`t be mistaken, there is a vulcano under the surface. You can`t avoid this catharsis.


4) a YOD

your Sun, Venus sextile your own Mars, and both are quinkunx his Mercury, quite tightly as well, the release point falling into Taurus in your 12th house.

Curiously the Yod is a 12th harmonic aspect figure, there comes quite a lot of karmic stuff up with that. It is often surprisingly binding. You may think you have the choice to simply walk away, but as a matter of fact you don´t, because deep inside you feel and know ther eis stuff to be learned, experienced, worked through (that is how I experienced Yods in my synastry at least; that is what the term fatedness in respect to them means to me; you could walk away every moment you want, but even if you might think you want to do that, you don´t; cause you know that you need this experience for your growth, life or whatever. In this way Yods can be rather compelling, binding together, what noone ever thought could belong together, yet it does).

It is clear with Sun, Venus, Mars there, that it has to do with relationships for you, and especially with how you give and receive love (ruler of 5th in 11th); there seems to be something hidden in the subconsiousness that needs to be unburied (mars as ruler of 11th in 12th), possibly some thoughtpattern or way to communicate mixed into this as well (Sun ruler of 3rd).

In this way it seems so fitting that it is his MERCURY making the Yod, as probably the working through needs to happen through communication (among other things), or communication is a big draw. His Mercury is on your Sun/Mars and Venus/Mars-mp after all.
Well Jude Law`s Mecury is on MY Venus/Mars-mp, and I know I could listen to him recite the phonebook from London. lol

Of course it would be so interesting to see where his Mercury falls in his chart and what it rules.


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posted July 20, 2014 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are great observations Ceri- I agree with every single one of them..yes, I noticed that Yod as well. I have heard different perspectives on Yods only being significant in the composite and not synastry- but I have to disagree with this concept because Cusp and I have a Yod in our synastry and yes, very much of a feeling like, I could just completely walk away from this...but I can't because I just know there's more to this...I'd be interested to see if a Yod shows up in their composite as well.

I also saw his natal venus/Uranus/Saturn conjunction and was waiting to hear their current status as I agree, this aspect could definitely be contributing to him being torn between freedom and commitment...especially since it's in Sag and we know how Sags like their freedom!

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"Well Jude Law`s Mecury is on MY Venus/Mars-mp, and I know I could listen to him recite the phonebook from London. lol"

LMAO- Hilarious!!! 😂

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posted July 20, 2014 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ceri - I've asked himn for his birthtime...sigh. He doesn't know and never found out, so I used the dreaded noon time.

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posted July 20, 2014 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem,

well if yods are significant in composite they are definitely so in synastry as well!

I do have a little beef with that aspect figure, because of the constant mentioning of "fatedness", and to me it just seems so shallow a term. Everything seems to be fated these days, but fated how? What does it REALLY mean? What is the qualitative description behind it?

(well I gave my understanding of it above)

I have several yods in the synastry with my best friend, involving both moons, her Sun and my Saturn.
WEll we have been friends for almost 25 years; probably not just because of the Yods, but I think they might have figured in.

Anyway no, Hanna and her guy do not have a Yod in composite. Even including asteroids.


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Would anything in synastry point to why he can't or won't directly talk to me? Even when we talked everyday…the conversations were silly and meaningless. I found out more about him through his blog.

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