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andstuff
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posted August 06, 2014 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

I have been collating questions that kind of preoccupy me, so I thought why not create a thread

At this moment I've got 3. So maybe one person/reading per question? Please also be courteous and bear in mind that my things are normally at least one paragraph long and maybe a two-liner in return is not quite... fair.

Anyway here they go

1) DONE Why did my friend J undermine me so often and why did she finally break off the friendship?

2) There was this other friend S who developed a massive emotional dependency on me whom I ended up bitterly reproaching for getting possessive/obsessive and literally kicked out of my life (frankly: i got paranoid about being worshipped and watched non-stop like in the cinema and such, my every reaction to everything checked on). Did anything happen to me afterwards as a karmic payback for my... somewhat cruel way of dealing with that? Or if not - will anything happen to me as a result of this?

3) DONE Finally, there was this crush B who flirted with me 10 years ago despite being married and then just left me high and dry, no messages no nothing (I was upset, like for months). Now he's suddenly turned up when I forgot I had ever met him and is trying to be in touch on Facebook and whatnot. I don't care what he wants, but what is the meaning of all this? Is there a message for me in the absurdity of the situation? What does the universe want to tell me?

@Twirl if you're reading this and fancy doing this, drop me a bit of a line, I have a more personal query laid aside.

Let's have fun

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posted August 06, 2014 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll do #3...I know you said you didn't care that he popped back in, but boy, u might change your mind cause it aint going anywhere

EDIT:::::::::::::

oK LOOK. I know you said he flirted and left..yes, thats mean to do. But I dont think he just flirty...I think he actually liked you. The marriage he got into seems like a shame, as if he wasnt really in love. Did one of them need money/health benefits or did she say she was pregnant? There is a reason other than bliss on why he married her.

And i dont think when he just popped out...it was because they were so happy and doing great so he "left" you and moved on to her...I think that's when things (**** ) hit the fan. It doesn't seem think much positivity has occured for him in about 5 years. SO something bad happend/came to realization.

It looks like he's getting out of his marriage now.....he never forgot about you. He's going to try and make it up to. You seemed to really offer him solace. He doesnt want an affair or use u to get his kicks. He generally wants to reconnect.

In his mind he is taking steps to eventually date you.

If you don't answer him, he's not going to go away. Not until you actually talk to him...then to met up with him. I see he's very sencere. Trust me I had an ahole bf (ex) do this to me...flirt with me then nothing! Cause he got married out of the blue but kept me around for his own kicks. IF THAT were happening..Id feel it and tell you what an ass he is and never to contact him.

but I think there is a lot of hidden reasons to why he married her and the day he ran out of his life (not just you) He changed that day. something bad happend.

I hope you hear him out. I think you're gonna be surprised.

He wants his life back...missed time, but he also will only go by his own "drum" now. So, he'll really fight to actaully see you.


I'll come right back and add more.

Can you tell me about the next few months...I am now coming back to chicago as things did not go as I hoped in St louis.

I actually asked for my job back, which I got. I told my landlord in Chic, that I am keeping the apt....which now I will be a month behind in rent as I need money to move everything back up.

But Im still applying for jobs in St louis as well as Chicago.

So, I have stuff in transition, but it's like coming back to the same stuff so its now new. New headacke, yea.

So, anyways thats what happend and where I am at

brb with urs

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posted August 06, 2014 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to interrupt...cheerful do you charge for readings anywhere? I'd like to get a reading from you regarding a certain person but I want to keep it off the threads. I'd also like to pay you for it, if you'd like. You were so right about my career...

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posted August 06, 2014 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll exchange with you andstuff! My question is what happened before my boyfriend left Indiana. Brb.

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posted August 06, 2014 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have number 1.

Why did j undermine you so much
The moon, death.

I believe she began to grow jealous of you after a while. I suppose for a talent you had. The rage was slowly bubbling up inside her.

Why she broke it off

The wheel, justice

She couldn't handle it anymore I believe she knew she could not be happy as long as she knew you.

Does this help?

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posted August 06, 2014 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From my intuition I see a young woman with dark hair in a pony tail. Is this j? I see a slightly older woman with sandy brown hair. Is this you? You two are atba party and she calls you out on an outfit she thinks is bad. Again I sense jealousy. Of a talent. Something to do with your guys' group of friends or people skills in general.

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posted August 06, 2014 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
feel free to email me at bannthomp24@gmail.com

I don't charge. l feel that I'm too new at this and I don't necessarily believe concrete prediction... only God knows what is absolute.

plus I will say that I pick up on energies of the reader so I did a reading for someone on this thread and literally everything that I was saying was everything that she had always thought would happen to her, and I kept telling her then that tells me I'm reading your energy and not necessarily the prediction

... so keep that in mind and truthfully that is my stance on anyone who says they're a psychic reader.... They're reading thoughts and energy

QUOTE]Originally posted by happyaskings:
Sorry to interrupt...cheerful do you charge for readings anywhere? I'd like to get a reading from you regarding a certain person but I want to keep it off the threads. I'd also like to pay you for it, if you'd like. You were so right about my career...[/QUOTE]

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posted August 06, 2014 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way cherful did you see my reading for you?

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posted August 06, 2014 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, TY! I hope that I get more money coming in soon!

QUOTE]Originally posted by whitewitch111:
By the way cherful did you see my reading for you?[/QUOTE]

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posted August 06, 2014 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you cheerful! I emailed you! If you need any further details let me know!

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posted August 07, 2014 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@whitewitch

thanks! a lot of people assumed something like this, i just guess i needed additional confirmation. so you're most definitely right. will get round to yours soonish


@cherful: thank you, but my question was different. i asked why the universe treated me that way and what it wants to tell me now

anyway, i enjoyed reading what you posted, mostly because i kind of enjoy finding out about people's hidden motifs, but the problem is there is no way he can fight for me, as i have no clue who he is going to fight. this story is massively water under the bridge, perhaps even 2 or 3 bridges even, i don't need anything from him and i am not interested in knowing him in any capacity whatsoever. it's really all just blah

anyway, i will pull cards for you, but the question from the opening post remains open

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posted August 07, 2014 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whitewitch111:
From my intuition I see a young woman with dark hair in a pony tail. Is this j? I see a slightly older woman with sandy brown hair. Is this you? You two are atba party and she calls you out on an outfit she thinks is bad. Again I sense jealousy. Of a talent. Something to do with your guys' group of friends or people skills in general.


she's older. i used to wear a pony tail in high school, my hair is dark chestnut, hers is light brown or something along those lines. i once tried to tell her her style makes her look older, she got all defensive and said "everyone praises my style", i genuinely meant well. but this was after high school. people whose judgment i trust said she really dressed horribly so i just wanted to help and be as tactful about it as i could.

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posted August 07, 2014 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spritualjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Andstuff!

I'll give #3 a shot:

I got:
Desiree-conditions are not favourable now
Daniel-card of marriage
Leila-mediate about your desires and intentions
Alchemy-you have the ability to manifest right now

So from this I would say that he is having troubles with his marriage/relationship or there has been a separation and he's trying to 'act' out. The first card is telling me, that this is not a person/friendship you'd want in your life. But, you always have a choice to decide what it is you really want. You have the power to take this relationship in the direction you want.

The meaning behind this has to do with a small lesson on worthiness and I'm also getting with the art of manifesting. Attracting what you desire and feel you deserve in your life.
I pulled
Serena-abundance
Worthiness-know that you deserve to receive good in all ways
Watch your thoughts-focus only on what you desire
Play time- enjoy some fun and watch your ability to manifest increase

Hope this makes sense

My Q is: What is coming up for me in the next 3 months.

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posted August 07, 2014 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops I totally missed out on your question of what is the meaning behind this.

I'm going to push you a little bit dto dig eeper into thinking about this because y with someone who you don't care about, would you even care about what meaning the universe has for you, if he's not relevant in your thought or feelings or emotions Or your mind

So here it goes:

I've had people in my past, ex boyfriends Or guys I'd like contact me and weather I chose to contact them or be like okay why are they contacting me &completely forget about it.... but that's not at all what you're doing you're engrossed in him even though you believe or not.... if you truly thought it was water under the bridge three time you would nt have even given a second thought to why this man contacted you, let alone care about what this meaning in the universe is for you.
..... I say that with respect and not at all in a bad way

so to answer your question ... there is clearly more that your feeling and not letting on to. you respond back to my reply was so in the defense mode of how you don't even care about this guy , u put a lot of effort into defending how you don't care and how he's nothing to you..... perhaps you're trying to convince yourself that u don't.... I don't know but thats way too much energy way too much effort to display. "not caring" ..... but when he does start coming on heavily I think hopefully you can release your anger , hurt, or whatever it is that you're fighting here and heal from it.

do you remember somebody from your junior high or high school class who you might have been friends with like Or have a crush on.... but like really you don't even care about that person its been so long ago like they're not even an existence in your life.... do you have anyone like that? ( I'm sure you do we all have old crushes or whatever) ..... well imagine if that person popped back into your life and just how you wouldn't give a s*** about it and completely disregard and not think twice about it.... it would really be a non issue in your life, right. like who cares and why would you even care to find why this random guy contacted you like there would even be some meaning to it. well thats the same attitude and energy you should be having about this guy if you really didn't care.

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posted August 07, 2014 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey cherul, would you mind exchanging with me?

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posted August 07, 2014 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sure do you want to open another thread though

QUOTE]Originally posted by whitewitch111:
Hey cherul, would you mind exchanging with me?[/QUOTE]

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posted August 07, 2014 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes thanks.

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posted August 07, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cherful24:
Oops I totally missed out on your question of what is the meaning behind this.

I'm going to push you a little bit dto dig eeper into thinking about this because y with someone who you don't care about, would you even care about what meaning the universe has for you, if he's not relevant in your thought or feelings or emotions Or your mind

So here it goes:

I've had people in my past, ex boyfriends Or guys I'd like contact me and weather I chose to contact them or be like okay why are they contacting me &completely forget about it.... but that's not at all what you're doing you're engrossed in him even though you believe or not.... if you truly thought it was water under the bridge three time you would nt have even given a second thought to why this man contacted you, let alone care about what this meaning in the universe is for you.
..... I say that with respect and not at all in a bad way

so to answer your question ... there is clearly more that your feeling and not letting on to. you respond back to my reply was so in the defense mode of how you don't even care about this guy , u put a lot of effort into defending how you don't care and how he's nothing to you..... perhaps you're trying to convince yourself that u don't.... I don't know but thats way too much energy way too much effort to display. "not caring" ..... but when he does start coming on heavily I think hopefully you can release your anger , hurt, or whatever it is that you're fighting here and heal from it.

do you remember somebody from your junior high or high school class who you might have been friends with like Or have a crush on.... but like really you don't even care about that person its been so long ago like they're not even an existence in your life.... do you have anyone like that? ( I'm sure you do we all have old crushes or whatever) ..... well imagine if that person popped back into your life and just how you wouldn't give a s*** about it and completely disregard and not think twice about it.... it would really be a non issue in your life, right. like who cares and why would you even care to find why this random guy contacted you like there would even be some meaning to it. well thats the same attitude and energy you should be having about this guy if you really didn't care.


nice try

i am not engrossed, see above, i am paranoid

more particularly i am paranoid because I was denied what I wanted back then and am getting these weird messages now, esp because he is now faded and wrinkled, i.e. objectively not top notch. i was curious why the universe did this to me (and SJ seems to have done an awesome job ). so this particular part is strictly about me, not anyone else

also FYI I tend to write things as in fiction, so I tend to get my kicks from observing others, unearthing the hidden, perhaps contemplating too much. weakness/lowness and poverty of the soul are a few phenomena i am perversely mesmerised by. a faded and haggard loser who is defs bitter about how his life worked out who seeks out a girl 10 years younger is something i find uber-interesting. if it wasn't about me, I would still be fascinated if another girl let me get to the bottom of this story

please refrain from trying to convince me i delude myself into believing things that aren't true. i am positive about what i wrote above. i have done enough soul-searching in my life to be able to analyse my emotions, so i hope we're on the same page and you agree how absurd it is to assume someone else could understand my feelings better than i do

thank you for trying, maybe you will be more accurate for me on another occasion. best of luck learning and fine tuning your skills.

i will post your reading soon as promised.

To sum up
the bit about him having got married because of the woman's pregnancy could be true because his wife had a second child when we met. he does seem disappointed in life. so those bits you prob got right.

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posted August 07, 2014 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spritualjourney:
Hi Andstuff!

I'll give #3 a shot:

I got:
Desiree-conditions are not favourable now
Daniel-card of marriage
Leila-mediate about your desires and intentions
Alchemy-you have the ability to manifest right now

So from this I would say that he is having troubles with his marriage/relationship or there has been a separation and he's trying to 'act' out. The first card is telling me, that this is not a person/friendship you'd want in your life. But, you always have a choice to decide what it is you really want. You have the power to take this relationship in the direction you want.

The meaning behind this has to do with a small lesson on worthiness and I'm also getting with the art of manifesting. Attracting what you desire and feel you deserve in your life.
I pulled
Serena-abundance
Worthiness-know that you deserve to receive good in all ways
Watch your thoughts-focus only on what you desire
Play time- enjoy some fun and watch your ability to manifest increase

Hope this makes sense

My Q is: What is coming up for me in the next 3 months.


Hey!

have you been ok?

yeah that's the problem, i feel like i attracted a faded loser into my life without remembering who he is or was 10 years ago. i must be doing something wrong or am i misinterpreting your words?

the funniest bit is this: i was playing round the world [darts] with myself and i couldn't hit 20 for ages to finish, so at some point when another series was unsuccessful and i had one dart left i said to myself if i hit 20 with this one now i will marry a boy from the kinda league i want and well i hit it and no sooner had i gone to check my email, his first message arrived and then i saw his recent pics and felt kinda unwell, his looks haven't changed for the better. so i was like no way, this can't have anything to do with my game of darts

thanks very much for this, i will post yours soon x

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posted August 07, 2014 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spritualjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Andstuff!

Yes, I"m ok, just a lot going on in all areas of my life right now.

lol...I didn't mean you attracted him in your life. Well, at least not intentionally. The universe might be using him as a 'chest piece'. This is an opportunity to see what you DON"T want in your life (i.e. him and how he treated you) and focus on what you DO want and attract that.

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posted August 07, 2014 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Andstuff

from anything that you said...I am correct.

Lets start with:

You admited that you were obessed....the defination of being engrossed is attention or interest absorbed by someone or something....thus, samething as obessed. Are you saying I am wrong because I used the word engrossed instead of your chosen word, obesssed?

It's clear that you are engrossed in this matter or you wouldn't be asking about it in the frist place. So your first reply trying to say that it's water under the bridge was not true...plus again, you just admitted that you're obessed. So again, what did I get wrong??? I gave you an example of what it would be like if some matter was truly under the bridge...you woudnt be "obessed" and asking about it...are you saying example was wrong??

SO DONT SAY I READ IT WRONG WHEN CLEARLY I READ IT RIGHT.

So What do you mean 'Nice Try" and "dont try to convience you of deluding into believing things that are not true?????????

Are you saying you don't believe that he actually liked you? and wants to try and recconect with you?...

ok, if you have done enough soul searching (as u say) and you have concluded that he never did, then ok. That sounds more like reflecting so you dont get hurt again, but ok feel free to believe that he never liked you. I see the opposite, he did and does want to reconnect with you.......are you saying I am wrong on that...I mean he reached out to you so, obviously he wants to reconnect with you...beacuse he did (hence he connected you) NOT SURE WHY YOU THINK I AM WRONG ON THAT??

You obviously had unresolved emotions with this guy...ARE U SAYING I AM WRONG ON THAT??? Sweetie it's clear that you do. you don't believe that you do???? then your deluding yourself that you dont...not to be rude but you clearly have some hang ups still as yo are obesseed with this matter. And so my answer about what message the universe has for you about this...obviously holds true.

I am not seeing how my reading and Spirtualy Journey's is different????

I just called you out on you saying how you didnt care and it was water under the bridge.

So here's my sum. dont say my reading is wrong when it clearly is not. Dont try to twist and turn things to screw an outcome that you fill is something that you can handle instead of something you cannot. You flat out side I did not read it correctly and then you flat out admit that you are infact obessed thus, you're contradicting the statements...yet ur still trying to tell me I read it wrong?????? Give me a break.

Again in both readings you got on this are basically the same ...expect for me calling you out on not carring and your b.s.

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posted August 07, 2014 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cherful,

thanks for the bedsheet. very interesting

please

i don't want any drama

if you read what i wrote, you would notice i did say you got certain things right. i have no idea if he liked me and if yes to what extent

the only part i disagree with is your interpretation of my emotions. i have no unresolved emotions about the person. i have newly arisen emotions about the situation as a whole that have nothing to do with the person or any f his qualities.

i am not obsessed, i am intrigued. it's like a coupla registers below. please stop saying i am a hysterical idiot with a subzero IQ who can't tell left from right

you are wrong about my emotions. please accept this fact and please move on from this. when people tell me stuff that resonates, i don't tell them it doesn't

maybe you shouldn't play the empath. at any rate, i don't feel like you are when it comes to me.

maybe you shouldn't judge by what people type on the internet. text analysis should be left to professionals such as those who have an MA in language n lit

the facts about his life could be true. my emotions have nothing to do with your description. ok? so shall we say you are 50% right? your first message might resonate, your second one doesn't, sorry. don't make this my fault that i cannot relate to it

SJ never said I felt anything about this man. I think her reading is along the lines of my overall detachment. And I complimented her because she's got a sweet vibe and because I felt like complimenting her. Period.

PS just noticed you called my posts b.s. unless you genuinely apologise i shall not be able to read for you as I can't do much unless i wish the querent well (god and angels made me this way, sorry). and i tend to have a hard time wishing someone who insults me well. a word of advice for the future: do watch your tongue, might prove a beneficial skill

PPS i have talked to really gifted/talented empaths/psychics. not a single one has ever made me feel like i can't relate. once again, i wish you luck in honing your skils

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posted August 08, 2014 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poochycat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
May I chime in please?

In defense to Cherful and many others on LL we CAN'T ALWAYS BE RIGHT! Most times we are given limited information, just an initial of the person that we inquiring about. Most of the readings are relationship related but not always. If that information is NOT given then more than likely a romance reading will be read for example with info that does not relate. That just recently happened to me and I was made to feel stupid. Ladies it is your EGO coming into play. If you were right all the time then you would not be wasting your time on a public forum. You would be charging $100.00 or more for an hour reading and would have returning clients and this would be your business. They are called professionals and would never berate someone for saying there reading was all wrong. But saying that even they will sometimes get things wrong by changing circumstances in a client's life. Even if someone does a reading for me and it doesn't relate I am always thankful for their time.

Perhaps from now on it would be best for all of us just to say thank you and don't mention that it doesn't relate because I have seen so many heated exchanges with some of the members. I shouldn't be this way. Poochy

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posted August 09, 2014 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@poochy

hope you don't defend cherful for insulting me? i thanked her and gave her feedback. then she came back all aggressive and insisted my feedback was unjustified. well i didn't tell her what she wanted to hear, and surely i was not obliged to relate to her "reading" to make her happy? none of this is my problem. i thought the discussion should have been over after my first reply. no one forced her to go out of her way to convince me of things that i know not to be true.

i haven't been reproaching cherful for being inaccurate, i am cool with people not being so esp when it costs me nothing in terms of money. i am cool with people being gifted to different extents. even those who go pro are not always right, so amateurs are entitled to even more condescension.

just when told the reading is off there's no point in ejaculating bedsheets and squealing the querent doesn't understand him/herself.

and i don't think insulting someone you exchange with and expect to read for you is civilised and productive. cherful called my replies bs. that's too much

i think feedback is important, even when the reading is wrong, we all need practice.

i just can't see whats the point in squealing, getting aggressive and claiming you're right when told the opposite instead of being grateful for an opportunity to practice, examining yourself and thinking of ways of getting better

i once got a request from a user who badmouthed me behind my back. i read for her and was wrong, because my skills don't work unless i wish the querent well. she totally lashed out on me and refused to admit her behaviour was unethical. so? at least i found out it's better not to read for people who insult me and discuss me in negative contexts. obvs a positive experience.

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posted August 09, 2014 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there is nothing for me talk honestly apologize about you keep changing things that you're saying.... and when I asked you about it aka confronting you about it you change your answer. so even though you said you were obsessed now you're telling me you're not obsessed now you're just intrigued??

I'm not lashing out at you but when you tell me I'm wrong and you do this like tell me the answers.... and say my reading isn't correct then of course I'm going to have to defend myself.

I never said you had feelings for him where are you getting that????

I said the meaning that the universe has for you is going to be brought forth when you let go of all of your repressed.... anger or hurt feelings or whatever it is.
and I said you cared about it... and then if it was water under the bridge 3 times , u wouldn't be asking about it but I never said you had feelings for him.

so do you understand why I am coming off as sounding annoyed? you're changing your answers and you're telling me I'm telling you stuff that I actually never said

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