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Sagical
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From: Glenbow, Canada
Registered: Mar 2014

posted August 11, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagical     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need a sounding board or some insight into this in regards to my oldest daughter. There has been issues on the horizon for a while and it just seems to get worse and worse. Pluto themes of great bitterness, resentment, vengefulness and holding on to a grudge has come up.

Today, I decided to look at her chart and I saw that Transiting Pluto is opposing her natal moon in Cancer.

All the old losses from when she was a baby and toddler have come up for her. She has come very combative and belligerent when nothing has provoked anything in her environment.

She is deeply resentful because her parents are not together. (I left her father when she was 4 months old due to the relationship being toxic and abusive. I refused to raise my child in a home where domestic violence was daily.) I am not in contact with my family of origin because they were toxic and abusive.

Being that she has four planets in Cancer, family and togetherness is extremely important to her, what has happened is extremely devastating and very painful for her. Her time spent with me is a great big struggle and she is always talking about these losses and throwing it in my face.

I have suggested therapy and she refuses. I think I will present therapy in a different way to her cause she needs it. The query is if she has the maturity or at this age is capable of working through things. I know this is needed for her. How things are going now, seems to driving a wedge between her and I. The worst case scenario would be that she refuses to have me in her life at all and estrangement is looming. She is only 12.

her birthday is June 12, 2002
114W00 51N03 at 1100 AM

I'm doing all that I can and setting up the help that she needs but she is resistant.

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whitewitch111
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From: Hillsboro, OR, USA
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posted August 11, 2014 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went through the same aspect a little bit ok. And my parents divorced at six. Don't worry your daughter will forgive when it is over and be so much stronger because of it.

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tphoenix5
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posted August 11, 2014 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tphoenix5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a similar aspect. Wow, harsh for a soul so young to the planet. She is an old soul and it will take a bit of time but it will work out. Since Pluto (the seat of the soul) is opposing her moon, she needs to experience the loss of what a traditional family is. I tried so very hard to stay in a harsh situation. Somehow, different from my chart I thought I could do it. I was kicked to the curb. The lesson was to learn of the loss... opposition. You have this and this is what she needs to learn. Therapy can help or it may just be an exercise in futility. She sees you as the culprit. You cannot avoid this. Until she has time to reflect on the circumstances, she will continue to see you or her father as to blame for what she perceives is how life should be for her. Oppositions and esp transits to Pluto are hard on any of us. Knowing this you need to treat her with kit gloves. If she has to have therapy, then let her help in deciding who to see. Give her some type of control so that later she can see you were doing your best. Life as she gets older will get better. She wanted to tackle this stuff head on and early... And here she is !!!!

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MinceyMouse
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posted August 11, 2014 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tphoenix nailed it.

Parents divorced when I was 7 and for sometime I saw my mother as the person to blame... until I lived with the man for a week. Oh my god. Anyway, she will have to learn empathy, and it will take time for her to develop it naturally. She will also learn that people worth being surrounded by should be nurturing and not abusive in any way- this comes with experience.

12 is young. Therapy would be good for her to understand what she feels and why she feels it. Note that she is also going through puberty and this is generally a 'hard' time for any parent. At the end of the day you are the mother, you make the executive decisions about what happens.

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tphoenix5
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posted August 11, 2014 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tphoenix5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mincey... and Mincey is right. You are the mom and the adult. Find a solution that fits in your heart and then you got it. You will not need anyone agree when you listen to your inner voice.

Blest Be!

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Sagical
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From: Glenbow, Canada
Registered: Mar 2014

posted August 16, 2014 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagical     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for your insights and listening ear. Much appreciated.

I forgot I posted this question.

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