posted September 17, 2014 07:46 PM            

Thank you. x

posted September 17, 2014 07:53 PM            

If there is anything that I have learned in this life by my current age... .(older than DIRT).... it is friendship is measured in quality not quantity. If you can tell some of your inner most thoughts to someone...without them judging you... you have a friend.

posted September 17, 2014 08:11 PM            

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Originally posted by tphoenix5:
How many people on LL consider you a friend or at least someone comfortable enough to confide in... Count me as one.

If there is anything that I have learned in this life by my current age... .(older than DIRT).... it is friendship is measured in quality not quantity. If you can tell some of your inner most thoughts to someone...without them judging you... you have a friend.

Friendship IMO is about caring and being cared for... and I can tell you have that so .... NOW.... when will you have friends....NOW

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Aw! Thank you so much tphoenix! c:

Of course you are all my friends. In fact, you guys are one of the only people I can talk to. I'm so glad I found this site.

It's just that, in real life, I have no friends, and I know it's not really possible for me to make actual friends in anytime soon outside internet, but it's because at my new school I am always alone, everyone minds their own business, since it's an adult school.

Everyone seem to know each other except me. I don't know anyone.

The reason I needed a 'friend' was so that I could feel less bored and less uncomfortable in my school.

I haven't made friends since a long time. The last time I made a good friend was about 2 years ago, it was a foreign exchange student from germany. She was nice.

But one of the reasons I couldn't make friends was because people are so fake around me, I can't make friends. I'm too old for my age. I feel like a 80 year old and even 80 year olds are more fun than me. I'm exaggerating but you know what I mean.

You guys are already my genuine friends, but I'm just looking for a companion to feel less awkward in school.

Love, Mia. x

posted September 18, 2014 08:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Jerseyshore:
Mia,

I've read a few of your posts and I really feel for you. If you ever want to talk honey I'm here. I can give you my email address if you'd like. Keep your chin up, love.

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Thanks Jerseyshore. xx

posted September 18, 2014 10:57 PM            

Talk to other people, you never know what happens. I was lucky enough to find my group of friends- but this happened in the 11th grade only. I am still close to them now- 4 years since high school graduation. So chin up, and start talking to people- ask if you can sit with them during lunch ect. Be nice and friendly; do not tolerate people snubbing you!

posted September 20, 2014 01:25 PM            

I appreciate that.

I haven't been able to make friends since 5 years, real friends I mean.

Your advices are nothing out of the ordinary, and have been heard by my ears ever since those times by countless people.

I appreciate your intentions, but it's easier said than done. I'm not gonna lie and say I can do that from next Monday.

Some things have to do with will, others with fate, other by mere luck or coincidence.

But what is astrology and tarot for?

I could have gone to a psychologist, not even, but anyone walking on the street and they would have given me the same advice that you did.

It's much more complicated. It's like someone healthy and active who never had fever telling someone that has fever 'it's not that hard to jog 2 miles, you can do it'.

I only asked for a tarot. If I asked for advice I would have gone to my aunt or someone like that.

I don't mean to offend you guys. I know you have good intentions for me and I appreciate that, but what I need right now is not mere reassurance but reality. Lies and making thing sound easier than they are, especially for someone like me, who is not your average person since they went through things average people don't go through, gets annoyed after a while when people give average advices.

I had to say it because I'm sick of lying.

If you wanted to hear me say "I will try my best to do that next time" then I'm not the right person sorry.

It's not like magic.

I have tried whatever I could, even taking baby steps, they don't make any difference. I am intelligent, sane and have manners, yet I've ended up without social life or reliable friends.

Yet some insane, crazy, illogical people have better social lives. So it's clearly not about the way you are.

I have Capricorn in my 11th house, and its ruler Saturn is in my first house, Aries, in exact degree of debilitation and retrograde making malefic aspects to my two very personal planets, especially for a girl, Venus and Moon.

That explains very well why I don't have friends.

That's why I was looking for astrology rather than psychology.

You can tell a poor person, why don't you become rich? Do you think that poor person likes to be poor? No. Some things happen by fate and not by will.

We all know in this world and society that to become rich, we need to get a good degree, then a good job, and then we can be rich. Doesn't it sound easy? Then why are so many people poor?

The same goes for friends. You can't force someone to be your friend. I believe in fate of astrology.. That's why I asked this question on this site and not a psychology site or forum.

If everything happened by will, my life would have been perfect today.

But no, we are all born in limitations. We all have limits and can't have everything. And that's life.

And as astrologers and those who are familiar with it, we have seen that by reading people's charts.

You can't tell a person with moon in Scorpio to become more trustful of others and be happy. That's not possible. Everything happens for a reason.

I have a cousin with moon in Scorpio square Uranus. And even before I knew about astrology or her life/childhood, we all had an impression of her as a secretive, mean and cold hearted person. She would play mind games with family members and cause trouble in the house. But there is a root for every problem.

Her mother is schizophrenic and when she was born, 5 days later her mother was urgently sent to a mental hospital. She was never fed as a baby because of that. Her mother also neglected her later, going to parties with friends, leaving her daughter behind alone with her aunts.

Do you really expect my poor cousin to love the world, be trustful of others just by someone giving advice to her? The root of the problem is extremely deep. And it all starts since we were created, since we were in the womb. She may not even realize or understand because of that, why she is the way she is, why she acts or behave the way she does.

Have you ever noticed that children who's mother was happy being pregnant with and who had a good time while they were pregnant their children were more healthy than those children who's mothers were emotionally depressed when the baby was in their womb?

It's common sense. And astrology proves that very well. We were all meant to be who we were, are and will be.

Just because we don't see the future, but only the past and present, doesn't mean it's not fated. Some very professional and traditional secretive astrologers, who know much more than us, can tell when we'll marry or die and etc.

Someone who was a psychologist said once "what we don't acknowledge consciously, we live it as fate".

No matter how hard it is to accept or believe, everything is fate. Why? Because even the decisions we take consciously, come from somewhere. If we keep asking and asking why and why over and over again, trying to reach the root of the reason why we decide to do something, we realize, we can't answer anymore after a while. Because more than 90% of our brain is subconscious. And scientists proved that, didn't they?

They say that if we go to the past, and just relocate a mere rock from one metre, it can change the whole future. Vsauce even proved in one of his videos that if a bird didn't fly in South America let's say, there would have been no hurricane on the other side of the world.

That means that every single thing on earth is interconnected, and all that happens at the same time all over the world has to happen at the same time. And doesn't horary astrology proves that?

Has anyone thought for a moment hour horary astrology works? Why does our question gets answered by a chart of the current planets and houses by a mere question of the mind? Because that question had to occur in our brain in that exact mere moment. Even if a question is influenced by outer forces such as for example, the reason I ask a question is because of me overhearing others speak about something, which in turn makes me curious and I look up a horary chart, the moon in usually in the house which correlates to my question.

And that also proved me that my brain is not 100% independent. It never is and never was. I was and always am a part of my ancestors, and the situation I grew up in, I think, act, behave the way I do because of the people around me, including family, society, media, or any little thing I see, hear and understand that influenced me which in turn made me who I am ever since I was conceived. But the reason I am only me and no one else is because Jo one else has been through and seen, heard or understand everything exactly the way I did, and exactly the things I did, saw, heard and understand, with the gifts and abilities of the genes if my ancestors which are unique, including my growth and how it was, which also influenced my being a lot.

That's why astrology makes sense. And that's why it makes sense why the time and location of your birth has a lot to do with you. In fact I believe it has everything to do with you. Because everything has to happen at that particular moment and place, everywhere in the world. And it's overwhelming to think about it, is it not? But it's the truth.

We all live in the illusion and believe in one of the biggest illusions we call 'reality' that the future is in our hands. The future is only in our hands because we have a fake sense of belief in that. Because we are already what we think we are and can predict little things like let's say "If I get good grades I can get into college". We can control that because we already know of the consequences. But that's only our CONSCIOUS mind, and the world's because it's a universal truth and common sense that you can get into college if you get excellent grades. But we can't predict other things, because that's the limit of the horizons of our consciousness, and it is linked with common sense and the world.

We can consciously predict what will happen to our house in 100 years. We can expect or believe that it will be passed in to our generations. But can you tell how it will look like in 100 years, and if it will be used or not, or be destroyed or burned down? No.

But maybe with astrology and other predictive methods.

How absurd? But it's not absurd when you understand the principle of it all.

posted September 20, 2014 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
If you're so realistic and sick of lying, why would you take stock in something as ambiguous / enigmatic as Tarot?

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I want it to give it a try and because tarot proved the have a bit of truth in it. Especially Karla's readings are very accurate.

posted September 20, 2014 04:35 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
If you're so realistic and sick of lying, why would you take stock in something as ambiguous / enigmatic as Tarot?

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It seems like you took offense. I repeated like 100 times that I appreciate and I acknowledge the fact that they had good intentions and I meant it.

posted September 20, 2014 08:25 PM            

False, I'm pretty good where I am. I trust people- but if they cross me then it's a different story. Yes, I think a lot and was depressed, I get bitter from time to time but I am content and generally know how to use this affliction in positive way. And so does many others.

We can evolve, to me you sound like you're trying to validate your limitations with astrology. That is not the purpose of tarot or astrology. You're giving your power away willingly. I understand you don't seek advice, but people here are giving their skills for free. If you seek truly guidance you should pay for a psychic service instead.

It's good to be honest, but please realize from others point of view, your above explanation is rife with self-entitlement.

No one is obligated to give you anything- and a small sentence acknowledging and appreciating their kindness does not negate the tone in which you express the rest of your post.

Perhaps you should get a paid service with that mindset, you will definitely get a lot and exactly what you seek.

posted September 20, 2014 08:33 PM            

Nothing is set in stone in the way human mind will be able to comprehend. There are paths laid out for each of us, but it is weaved that only our souls understand, not our physical brain, which is what you're describing in your post.

There is a certain detached quality to enlightened people- whatever their chosen ways are whether it's with religion, tarot, astrology or otherwise. The more you seek to define these solidly, the more you will get confused and feel powerless, like a handful of sand in which it slips through your fingers more and more as you grip it tighter.

posted September 20, 2014 08:40 PM            

'Afflictions' serves as guidance in which the negatives are seen as challenges to conquer in this life, NOT blockages as you've described (moon in scorpio example).

posted September 20, 2014 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
It seems like you took offense. I repeated like 100 times that I appreciate and I acknowledge the fact that they had good intentions and I meant it.

Do you think it would have been better if I lied and promised or said I could do it and that it would work? It would have kept fueling.

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No offense taken, more that it irks me that you come off so intelligent and yet so stubborn. Life is all about adapting to change, but everyone learns that on their own time. Best of luck in making friends this year.

posted September 20, 2014 10:23 PM            

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Originally posted by peacefulclouds:
"You can't tell a person with moon in Scorpio to become more trustful of others and be happy. That's not possible. Everything happens for a reason."

False, I'm pretty good where I am. I trust people- but if they cross me then it's a different story. Yes, I think a lot and was depressed, I get bitter from time to time but I am content and generally know how to use this affliction in positive way. And so does many others.

We can evolve, to me you sound like you're trying to validate your limitations with astrology. That is not the purpose of tarot or astrology. You're giving your power away willingly. I understand you don't seek advice, but people here are giving their skills for free. If you seek truly guidance you should pay for a psychic service instead.

It's good to be honest, but please realize from others point of view, your above explanation is rife with self-entitlement.

No one is obligated to give you anything- and a small sentence acknowledging and appreciating their kindness does not negate the tone in which you express the rest of your post.

Perhaps you should get a paid service with that mindset, you will definitely get a lot and exactly what you seek.

I feel your generalization and stiffness in your belief in astrology actually what hurts your chances more in having friendships rather than anything else.

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You're a moon in scorpio and you're trustful with others? That's strange unless your moon is making positive aspects and you whole chart depends too.

"We can evolve, to me you sound like you're trying to validate your limitations with astrology. That is not the purpose of tarot or astrology. You're giving your power away willingly. I understand you don't seek advice, but people here are giving their skills for free. If you seek truly guidance you should pay for a psychic service instead. "

Read the name of this site. Read the sections. Is there counseling and psychology mentioned anywhere? This place is about astrology the last time I checked. I don't think I need to go to a psychic service because I see a lot of tarot exchanges around here so I don't see the point.

I don't see it.

I come and post on this site to understand and share my knowledge and see other people's experiences with astrology, or to get or give readings to people, either by horary or tarot.

Seems like you didn't read all that I said. I don't like to keep repeating so I'll copy and paste:

"But what is astrology and tarot for?

I could have gone to a psychologist, not even, but anyone walking on the street and they would have given me the same advice that you did.

It's much more complicated. It's like someone healthy and active who never had fever telling someone that has fever 'it's not that hard to jog 2 miles, you can do it'.

I only asked for a tarot. If I asked for advice I would have gone to my aunt or someone like that.

I don't mean to offend you guys. I know you have good intentions for me and I appreciate that, but what I need right now is not mere reassurance but reality. Lies and making thing sound easier than they are, especially for someone like me, who is not your average person since they went through things average people don't go through, gets annoyed after a while when people give average advices.

I had to say it because I'm sick of lying.

If you wanted to hear me say "I will try my best to do that next time" then I'm not the right person sorry."

Of course I am validating my limitations with astrology. Otherwise it's called "not believing in astrology".

And I'm not just validating my limitations (saturn), I'm validating the reason for pretty much everything. Whether is happiness, sadness, money, friends, parents, job, etc.

"It's good to be honest, but please realize from others point of view, your above explanation is rife with self-entitlement."

Can you please mention where I was doing self-entitlement?

I only ask for other's point of view when I don't know/understand their point of view. I completely understand their point of view before disagreeing with it. The problem is that THEY don't know MY point of view and what it's like being in my shoes. And I wouldn't wish that upon my greatest enemies.

"Perhaps you should get a paid service with that mindset, you will definitely get a lot and exactly what you seek."

Wow. Why didn't I think of that before?!

"I feel your generalization and stiffness in your belief in astrology actually what hurts your chances more in having friendships rather than anything else."

So I'm not supposed to believe in astrology? Where exactly have you read and noticed my 'generalization' and 'stiffness' in my beliefs in astrology?

An extract from my former post on this thread would be a bit helpful because I don't really know what exactly you're talking about.

I don't even talk much about astrology outside the internet in the real world. Rarely anyone cares about it. You would know exactly what stops me from making friends, hm? Just by judging a post on a thread. How considerate and intelligent.

It is the ignorance of people like you that annoys me.

And it seems like you took offense. Which I couldn't care less about.

"No one is obligated to give you anything- and a small sentence acknowledging and appreciating their kindness does not negate the tone in which you express the rest of your post."

A small sentence of acknowledging and appreciating their kindness is what I've always been responding with to these kinds of ignorant advises since 5 years.

I never asked anyone to reassure me like I'm a naive baby who has never tried to do anything to make friends.

I've probably been through more than them. I really don't need any ******* advice.

I'm sorry if you didn't like my tone. That's how I speak. You'll have to deal with it. Sorry.

I wasn't looking for kind words. I was looking for truth. And I wasn't looking for advice, but for tarot.

posted September 20, 2014 10:43 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
No offense taken, more that it irks me that you come off so intelligent and yet so stubborn. Life is all about adapting to change, but everyone learns that on their own time. Best of luck in making friends this year.

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Stubborn? About what?

I said I couldn't make friends since 5 years and that the advice they are giving me are the same as the ones I have always been getting. I said that I even tried following their steps but it doesn't work.

I even gave a reason based on my natal chart.

Since high school, I changed high school 5 times. I was almost always new to every high school I went to.

lilacbreeze's advice extract:

"Since you're at the start of the school year, it gives you a great opportunity to get to know some of your classmates. You mentioned that many keep to themselves, but if you start off with a simple question to the person sitting next to you, you might be amazed at how they open up!"

This thought never came to my mind before! What a brilliant idea. I was just waiting for an advice like that since 5 years. From this Monday I'm going to be popular!

Jk.

No one knows better than me whether it gives someone a 'great opportunity' to make friends when you're new somewhere. Being at the start of a school year is normal I don't see it as a great opportunity. I'm sorry.

I do ask questions to some people, like for materials like pen or pencil when I need to, and it doesn't make anything better.

"Life is all about adapting and change"

Adapting and change to what exactly?

"Everyone learns that on their own time"

As if I don't know how it's like to adapt and change. I've changed 5 schools in the last 5 years.

And, I don't know what that sentence has to do with anything I wrote on here.

I wasn't even being stubborn. I was simply telling them that their advice is not going to help me. I even explained them why and how. And I gave reasonable reasons.

posted September 20, 2014 11:04 PM            

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Originally posted by lilacbreeze:
Mia, I'm glad to hear that you appreciate the time / the intention in which the advice was given. My only motive was to try and help and to offer some friendly advice. In no way did I claim that I was providing THE answer to your question or deter anyone else from giving you the tarot reading that you requested. Whether or not you intended your response to include a tone that contrasts the "thank you" you wrote, it did come across that way. In any case, I hope you receive the insight you're looking for. Best of luck with school!

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I'm sorry about my tone. It's just that I've been getting similar advices all the time. It does get annoying after a while.

I was so frustrated to hear them again I was at the verge of crying.

A friendly advice to just be polite was the last thing I needed.

People take offense for what I say because it sounds rude but the venom you may sense from my words come from somewhere. And it's not from a good place.

If you were in my shoes you would be overwhelmed with ignorance and being misunderstood.

I don't even know where to start.

I don't want you to be upset with me please. I hope you see where I'm coming from.

Thanks. x

posted September 20, 2014 11:14 PM            

"I really don't need any ******* advice.

I'm sorry if you didn't like my tone. That's how I speak. You'll have to deal with it. Sorry."

posted September 20, 2014 11:29 PM            

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Originally posted by peacefulclouds:
One more:

'Afflictions' serves as guidance in which the negatives are seen as challenges to conquer in this life, NOT blockages as you've described (moon in scorpio example).

Understanding your natal chart serves that purpose- to shed a light to the path of enlightenment (solving karma etc), to try own/conquer your spiritual blockages- not to give into them and call it a day- which seems to be your belief right now.

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Never said that if we have bad placements we should sit at one place and cry about it.

Never said any such thing. What makes you think I said that?

I only said that life is not perfect and we can't make it perfect. Because 'perfect' can't be life.

I said that we should always accept who we are. Not ignore it or try to change the unchangeable.

A moon in scorpio person can't become a moon in taurus. It's in their nature, and they are the way they are because of a reason.

I was only expressing my beliefs, and never ditched anyone else.

You have our own beliefs, I have my own.

I've come a long way to believe in what I do and for the countless books I read.

You believe more in modern astrology, linking it with psychology a lot and the general belief/philosophy of the society.

Good for you.

Btw, I even described how the very wise astrologers were able to predict marriage and death and other stuff like that from the natal chart. I even explained everything that you're talking about right now right here in my previous post.

You just believe more in human will than fate. You believe that humans cause the future and fate.

But time is an illusion - Albert Einstein.

The past, present and future are all connected.

And btw, to be enlightened there is no path to go. That's the trick.

Have you seen any youtube videos by Osho?

We were all born enlightened but growing up be go farther away from or true selves, grow our ego, which is the opposite of enlightenment. We are always told by our parents and society to become someone successful one day. They're all objectifying us. But they don't appreciate our mere existence and appreciating the way we just are.

It's extremely rare to be enlightened and it's funny how people talk about enlightenment as if people would really enlighten.

Osho is the only person I know who is enlightened. He claim that buddha was enlightened too.

If you don't now what I'm talking about check "osho" on youtube and you'l find him. Don't listen to me. Go see it for yourself.

posted September 20, 2014 11:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Sweetpie:
Do you hear yourself?

"I really don't need any ******* advice.

I'm sorry if you didn't like my tone. That's how I speak. You'll have to deal with it. Sorry."

This ATTITUDE though! Awful, just awful!

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Sorry for not being a perfect, tolerant to ignorance person.

I'm just a straightforward person.

posted September 20, 2014 11:43 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
@Mia - I don't know why I'm responding because I'm not into bickering with 17 year olds over their social/non-social life, so this will be my last.

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I don't know either.

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It's good you question things and oppose nearly anything helpful. That's a good defense mechanism that's going to keep you safe and aware throughout your life.

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Thank you very much. But I just wouldn't call those advices 'helpful'. I repeated like 100 times why and how they're not helpful to me without offending anyone. Can I not be honest?

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It's also going to prevent growth and change in mentality too, and for your sake I hope you grow out of it so you can meet and keep people that impact you in a positive way, in your life.

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Whatever you think.

Think and believe whatever you like. You don't know me and will never. And you saying I'm going to not grow mentally and change? Ha.

Your ignorance and prejudgments and overwhelm me.

If only you knew me.