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Astro keen
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posted October 12, 2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Chryseis,

Hope all goes well with you. Haven't seen you here for a while and wondered if you have been happily busy with the new grandchild, work etc.

I thought of you as my birthday approaches and I remembered the solar return reading that you did for me. It was very accurate indeed. Remarkably so!

Parts of my chart and your reading had suggested greater changes - the first house was massively oversized, for example, indicating personal focus and growth - but how we perceive things (from an overly self-critical viewpoint) does not necessarily match how astrology sees them. This was pointed out to me recently. I don't fully recognise how I have changed, even if these were significant changes. This year's solar return, in contrast, looks more 'normal'.


Venus exactly on the Sun looks promising! If you are looking in and have the time, I would love another solar return reading.

All good wishes
AK

ps. sorry, misspelt your name in the title

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Chryseis
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posted December 16, 2014 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Chryseis
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posted December 16, 2014 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Astro keen,

Thank you for remembering my granddaughter to me, that is kind of you. She is absolutely a cutie pie and is crawling now.

In the last few months I have realised something new and very exciting with solar returns.

Maybe I got the idea from someone else anyway, haha

I have been testing out the theory that each planet, point etc in the SR corresponds to the days counted from the SR ascendant(edit: birthdate, not SR AC).

So if your SR Moon was 4 degrees away from the SR ascendant then 4 days after your birthday you would have the themes of the Moon/sign/house.

It is so accurate!!!*@#OMG!*yes*#@(*!!!!

So maybe it could be a good rectifier of the natal chart if you could spend the time nutting it out.

Even down to say the sign on the SR IC and its degree for instance.

So, you have 365 days in a year and 360 degrees in the horoscope. Well its not an exact correlation however to this point my days have been exact so I'm not sure what happens to the 5 days out maybe they just get kind of spread out over the horoscope.

I suggest counting the degrees to all the planets and points etc from the SR ascendant and then adding that number for each one to the [edit: birthday date] and writing down all the dates for the SR year. Then write down what happened on those days.

So far for me, a significant event has happened on each point and they have correlated with the planet, sign, house themes.

You could probably even get more detail with aspects and rulerships but it's sufficient to write the dates and just consider the planet/sign/house or of course the sign/angle/cusp. I also include sign change days within the houses as without fail they have all been significant so goodness knows what including things like asteroids etc could also tell.

How exciting, today for instance could be your cupido in such and such day in the 7th house and if the planet correlations are anything to go by then such a day would definitely have cupido/sign/7th themes/events.

So the SR Venus conjunct SR Sun has probably happened for you in late October, probably to do with your birthday I guess.

I did an earlier attempt a few days ago at these interpretations for you but I forgot my password so I just scrapped the posting.

I may be able to try again soon with having a look at this again for you.


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Chryseis
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posted December 16, 2014 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I had that incorrect re: SR Venus and SR sun. You still count them from your birthday so its 47-48 days from your birthday which would be just gone by within the last few days.

I was confusing myself with working out your birth day by your SR Sun

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posted December 16, 2014 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you show us an example chart and how you apply this? Please

Very fascinating

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Astro keen
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posted December 16, 2014 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chryseis:
Sorry, I had that incorrect re: SR Venus and SR sun. You still count them from your birthday so its 47-48 days from your birthday which would be just gone by within the last few days.

I was confusing myself with working out your birth day by your SR Sun


Chryseis,

Great to hear from you. Was thinking of you just yesterday, in fact. Must have caught a sense of you being around . Very interesting info from you and will take note of key dates to investigate your exciting theory.

So, accordingly, 47 days after my DOB, October 26th, is today! Wow, that was timely! SR Sun and SR Venus should be affecting me in full swing at this point. So, this could be affecting my love life or finances (2nd house). Well, one investment is doing OK, and communications with the bf are good. And am feeling generally optimistic. I sat an exam yesterday and I may do well . And you got in touch today.

This day/s could be extra special. I have SR Sun/Venus conjunct SR Pallas and quintile SR Jupiter - all exact.
Do you think the effect is initiated on the day itself and then lasts a few days? Such a pity your interpretation got scrapped. Hope you can get the time to try again.

Edit: Since I now live in a different country from the one I was born in, I used the current location for the SR, not my place of birth. Would that be the best thing to do? The SR with the current location looks quite different.

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Chryseis
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posted December 16, 2014 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moonstruck87:
Can you show us an example chart and how you apply this? Please

Very fascinating


Hi Moonstruck,

Yes, I will use Astro keen's as she wants some interpretations anyway

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posted December 16, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yay! thanks!

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Chryseis
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posted December 16, 2014 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Astro keen,

Hope everything is well with you too.

Now, if your birthday is the 26th October, if you add 47 days then that would make the 12th of December wouldn't it? So think back to the 12th December and see what happened on that day. It HAS to be significant otherwise one of two things: either the relocation is throwing things out or your initial birth TIME is incorrect.

So this could be a good rectifier for your natal time though the situation is complicated by the relocation factor - so it would be hard to confidently know whether to rectify the chart.

So yes, I give a terrible explanation but the formula is very simple and not really a formula at all. It is as follows:


1. Count the degrees from the Solar Return Ascendant to a SR planet etc.
2. Add those degrees to your birthday date to give you a new date for the day that the SR planet is in full affect.
3. Et voila! you have a significant event in your Solar year.


All dates of my chart since September 9 (my birthday) are exact to the day and are astounding.

You can list your dates for your entire Solar Return year then journal what happens as a learning tool and for collaborative experimentation on the theory.

Be sure to include consideration of all planets, angles, house cusps, sign changes within a house, the nodes and I would say any particular asteroids that you are partial too.

Aspects are in operation between the SR planets but that can get confusing - better to reflect on the aspects after the date of the SR planet or point whilst you get your head around how aspects manifest in the SR.

Ok next posting I will interpret some of your SR chart, Astro keen, but keep in mind I'm not sure about birthtime etc. So you may have to journal and take in hand your SR chart yourself as I feel you are capable of doing.

If I don't post very much I will try and come back to it later as I have some stuff to do before too much longer but I'll see how far I get and see if the same ideas come up from before.

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Chryseis
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posted December 16, 2014 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may have done this SR chart for you before as I think I looked to a following SR year for you once and thought things would be better for you with respect to coming to terms with aspects of a relationship - I think I thought you would move on from that relationship last year though - however you say you are still good with the bf. But anyway I might have my memory of it that all wrong. Its hard to remember sometimes what I have said for who and some people have a slightly similar feel to others.

So I guess if I have interpreted this SR for you in the past it will be good to review whether I have anything worthwhile to say, haha.

So how I would have interpreted it in the past or in other SR charts for you is I would have done my channelling thing to source impressions on the symbols, positions and patterns within the chart.

Reading SR Pluto in the 4th is still valid but this new way will pinpoint it to a day and a significant event. All interpretations are valid whether you are looking at the chart from the macrocosmic or the microcosmic perspective.

So this morning I will do the interpretations in the first four houses. I'll start with the channel perspective (just for my own interest)then I'll go to the date system and give you what would be an interpretation based on a cognitive working out of themes. Then I may do a channelling perspective on the date system as well for each of those days that correspond to the SR planets etc.

So channelling:

Virgo ASC with ruler Mercury in 2nd in Libra (closest aspect: semi-sextile to SR Moon in 3rd/Scorpio: A lot of fiddley worries, little things like tyres, signals when to walk and not across roads, pens running out or not working at crucial times, nice tidy things getting easily shoddy (such as notebooks, tea towels etc) Petty little niggley over detailed worries because they are a manifestation of something greater at work in you. You are in a cycle that is setting you up for greater financial independence and assurance/insurance (maybe in line with what you mentioned above). But the early processes of these can see you feverishly nibbling at crackers and have your teethe jittering away as you think you are probably on a good thing but the assurety of it all hasn't kicked in. I think it will as it feels like big cycles are moving in behind the little niggley scratchings of the day to day.

2nd hse: ok yes, still the same impression. There is a bit of a secret joke for you here, you have something and you are not sure if someone(maybe it's your sister), knows about it. It feels like either a usury note or a piece of jewellery. Maybe you have something in a safety deposit or it could just be in a drawer. Anyway you have it, or access to it but they don't know you do or you think it might not have occurred to them that you have it in keeping. I don't think you are hoarding not to share though you do have a bit of Gollum's "my precious" thing going on with it.

3rd hse: You will kind of "drop the ball" with something. I think it could be some kind of life insurance or something - you've done some kind of swapping around and maybe you've compromised cover on something - maybe you might need to reconsider something like this more in detail because you have not quite attended to the right combo or cover or something with where you are at in life.

4th hse: I think there is still a pervading issue with a building concern in a property or joint property of yours. It feels like leaking plumbing is rotting away actual concrete/brick work. I think I have mentioned this before. You would probably know of it though so you if you have to look too hard for it, disregard what I've said.

Ok so the date system interpretations from a cognitive perspective in terms of my knowledge of "themes/flavours" of planets, signs, houses etc for the SR (I hope my additions are correct as I'm just adding them in my head)(BTW, I have a lot of similarities in my SR to yours):

SR 2nd house cusp in Libra: [17th November] Perhaps the last day or first day of an agreement involving possessions or something that you had purchased or was paying for.

SR Mercury in 2nd/Libra: [28th November]
Some kind of communication event, for example, possessions being moved from one location to another as part of an agreement, like a partnership.

SR NN in 2nd/Libra: [30th November] Maybe you arrived or visited somewhere significant where you were considering the value of things.

SR sign change to Scorpio in 2nd house: [11th December]
maybe some kind of endeavour/effort to acquire a shared resource such as a subsidy or a allowance to help you do something that maybe transformed you in some capacity.

SR Venus conjunct SR Sun in 2nd-3rd/Scorpio: [12 December]
I prominent female to you in communication with you and probably your friend will somehow qualify with you a significant purpose/direction of yours which has important implications for you. (Maybe that was me, though I wouldn't have thought it until I realise that it was probably the 12th when I tried to post my last message and I forgot my password (trine to Neptune in 6th) (Also it might be someone else and as said did I have concerns about your original TOB)(If it is me which it may not be as you may not regard me as such, but if it is me, I am not sure of the day I tried to reply though it was within the last few days. In terms of what you remember yourself though - I don't know what exactly it could manifest as though maybe you were seeking guidance or an exchange by some means that day. Though that implies that I think I could tap into that request or am worthy as a guide - I'm not sure, you might remember the day. You may have asked for exchanges on Lindaland - Lindaland is very Libran I think (The Venus quality).

SR Pallas in 2nd-3rd/Scorpio (conjunct the other two): [13 December]
(Channelled version) Some kind of mental reminder note "note to self, must do..." so yes, I'm not sure what that would be.

SR Moon in 3rd/Scorpio: [boxing day, 26th December]
Fluctuations, music, poetry, bath maybe even, has a bit of a lonely feel but not overwhelming and more like a kind of a self nurture thing. Generally musing over things - and generally pleasant and rejuvenating. (But remember these should be significant so whatever it is will impact the transformative nature to your character and life within the SR year).

SR Saturn in 3rd/Scorpio: [3rd January]
Misery depression and tears bordering on rage and upset. Something counted on is limited or missed. (So this day is to come and I don't like to be the black crow squawking and worrying people with doom and gloom, and I wonder even if that is correct for how that will pan out anyway - also I wonder what effect saying something like that has on one's experience of the day)

SR sign change to Sagittarius: [10th January]
Seeking advice further afield, maybe travelling to someone that you think is a more reliable source of wisdom

SR IC in Sagittarius: [19th January]
Fresh outlook on some kind of venture/horizon/perspective of distance between places (Probably has a foreign flavour to the day and the events)

SR Mars conj SR Karma in 4th/Sagittarius: [8th February?]
Clearing out, happily. Scrubbing decks, tidying things away (Sorry I started to channel in conjunct with cognitively derived interpretations) A big day with a big view, "onwards and upwards, tally-ho and all that!" haha.

SR sign change to Capricorn in 4th house: [9th February]
Train or transport time tables (ruler Saturn in 3rd house) Maybe underwater/channel crossing between homes perhaps.

SR Pluto in 4th/Capricorn: [20th February]
SHITTT!!!! Wow, I'm not sure what this is but it is massive. A huge change/decision probably an entire cataclysmic rupture or break from something as there are aspects to the AC/DC and Uranus in the 8th and yes, sadly Chiron sitting right on the DC is caught up in the connotations of this day. So all up an earth shattering breaking of light, major change, sadness, some tears, but really cranky, some pain but a resolution to get the hell out of a stagnant situation (definitely phoenix rising from the ashes on this one).

So hopefully you won't be devastated by this - probably better if you do your own SR interpretations if you can for the rest. I think you can and could be good at it.

Ok

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Astro keen
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posted December 16, 2014 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chryseis,

This is great! Thank you.

My TOB is pretty accurate I think, so the current location, if that, could be a cause of inaccuracies. I could also check SR with place of birth to see if any of the dates match key events.

Fantastic to get both channelled and astrological info from you. I think you're quite unique in that respect - having two quite distinct and uncommon skills. About the boyfriend - we went through two cooling off periods with me trying to end the relationship (just as you had predicted) but that didn't work. We are kinda seeing how it goes - and I recently had some readings, on 12 December as well. Surprisingly a couple of these were very positive about our future together. Very confusing!

Just going down the list of things you've said:

1st house - Cycle of financial independence sounds right - things have been looking up recently.

2nd - I don't recognise the bit about having a piece of jewellery that could belong to someone else.

3rd - this may unfold

4th - Yes, there was a plumbing problem which has now been resolved, which was rotting away the woodwork just as you said. Wow!

Of the SR dates one seems very true, 17th November - an agreement involving possessions. - my son got formally engaged on the 16th - this involved a ritual of exchanging gifts with his fiancé's family. I think that fits.

In the last few days in November I was having plans drawn for a kitchen extension, which could be pointing to possessions. It is difficult to pinpoint the exact days in retrospect. However, now that I have a few dates to check against future events that will be very helpful. The cataclysmic event especially! As you suggest, I could make an attempt to do this myself. But your channelled information is fantastic to have. So please still go ahead and finish the houses if you can . Would love to know if any relationship stuff comes up. This year is going to be busy - building work and a wedding. Will be delaying my dissertation till next year.

Incidentally, are you familiar with Lenormand? LeeLoo has drawn up a grand tableau for my relationship here. It looks beautiful, although the content isn't. Fascinating how one interprets it. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum18/HTML/001592-8.html

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posted December 18, 2014 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Astro keen,

I haven't had time to reply, sorry.

Yes the events should be significant on those days because of the importance of the SR planet placement in the SR. Some of what I've written sounds trivial. I guess there is some kind of cosmic balance required in terms of being able to be specific, or maybe I'm just wrong or inept, haha.

The plumbing problem I see involves some kind of 'aggregate' substance that seems crumbly - I don't see a lot of wood with it. I keep thinking - dry rot, but that is to do with timber so I don't know why I get the sensation of crumbly cement/aggregate stuff.

Yes, I like LeeLoo's interpretations on anything and especially now the Lenormand. I'll have to get a pack but have been put off because when I look at the cards I get impressions - so I feel its just another oracle tool that does the same thing as tarot etc for me. In some ways I would prefer to think more cognitively on an interpretation as it keeps things clearer rather than getting muddled in my interpretation of impressions.

I've been using the online free Lenormand spreads. I really like the idea of Lenormand.

I probably won't do any more of this year's SR for you as I think it would be better to work the rest out and then journal the results yourself.

I thought the SR Venus/Sun conjunction was going to be romantic before I looked into it but it had a different feel like a communication with a female type energy that supports your own care of self etc.

Anyway, maybe see how your journalling goes on the significant days.

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Astro keen
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posted December 18, 2014 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chryseis,

You are right about both the dry rot and the aggregate. Yes there was dry rot in the wooden beam under the floor, as well as a lot of crumbly cement and brick from an old wall overhead. This house is 100 years old.

I will start an SR date journal. Thank you for looking into it.

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posted December 19, 2014 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok yes, I'll look forward to your updates in time if you like

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Astro keen
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posted December 20, 2014 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chryseis,

Take a look at this thread - I thought it would be of interest to you .
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004830-2.html

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Chryseis
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posted December 20, 2014 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a great thread, I like everyone's input and Pixiejane's writing is so good

I'll contribute a small post to it, thanks Astro keen

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