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venuscorpio86
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posted October 16, 2014 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just curious if anyone is feeling scared over this ebola situation ? I see articles about people sick from West Africa coming to USA then CDC doesnt test them for the disease. Why ? These people are coming from the hotbed of the disease, I feel CDC isnt taking this serious. I personally am super scared

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posted October 16, 2014 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Debby4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a little scared. o: It's kind of gross that they do not care. .-. They trying to kill us all!

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posted October 16, 2014 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's only 2 people in US who have. They're both isolated and they both worked with the dying man who came here from Africa. Both said they're doing fine.

It midterm elections. They want to scare u

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posted October 16, 2014 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Debby4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought they said a nurse also had it and she got on a plane! O_O If they really want to scare people they are doing a good job. Police brutality, this, and so many other things going wrong I say everyone pack their bags and get out of town!

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posted October 16, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cherful24:
There's only 2 people in US who have. They're both isolated and they both worked with the dying man who came here from Africa. Both said they're doing fine.

It midterm elections. They want to scare u


Agreed. That's why I don't watch the news, it's full of negativity and all they want to do is scare you. I've had enough of all of those ISIS terrorism talk too. The media is great at controlling the masses and instilling fear.

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posted October 16, 2014 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I try to tell myself its media sensationalism but still worrisome. I think CDC being absolutely careless ! It makes me mad. I feel terrible for the nurses infected hope and pray they get well soon. There is too much dropping the ball going on, not enough to kerp our nation safe, there is no duch yhing a unecessary overexaggerated precautions, not with this matter.

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posted October 16, 2014 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes that is one of the two people who have it. she was not having any symptoms when she was on the plane. you can only get the disease when you have the symptoms and when you do, that is basically when you're near death. that is why she is doing fine because they tested her before she had the symptoms


QUOTE]Originally posted by Debby4:
I thought they said a nurse also had it and she got on a plane! O_O If they really want to scare people they are doing a good job. Police brutality, this, and so many other things going wrong I say everyone pack their bags and get out of town![/QUOTE]

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posted October 16, 2014 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They didn't follow protocol which is why they got it so it's because of their poor mistakes they chose to make that they are now in isolation


QUOTE]Originally posted by venuscorpio86:
I try to tell myself its media sensationalism but still worrisome. I think CDC being absolutely careless ! It makes me mad. I feel terrible for the nurses infected hope and pray they get well soon. There is too much dropping the ball going on, not enough to kerp our nation safe, there is no duch yhing a unecessary overexaggerated precautions, not with this matter. [/QUOTE]

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posted October 16, 2014 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The media makes me mad the way they word the nurses not following protocol like the oh well, you know its the nurses fault. What is the correct protocol ? Obviously these nurses were careful as could be, did their job it just shows how easy it is to catch. I highly doubt these nurses were careless in their actions. These disease is terrible, easy to catch and new to officials and how to handle it or what are good prevention steps. This topic might get too hot for this thread, oops ! Anyway I think we can all agree and hope the best for these ladies, appauld healthcate workers everywhere. Pray ebola is stopped somehow everywhere in the world.<3

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posted October 16, 2014 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the nurse who was treating the patient was told not to fly but she did anyways so these two don't seem to listen very well

QUOTE]Originally posted by venuscorpio86:
The media makes me mad the way they word the nurses not following protocol like the oh well, you know its the nurses fault. What is the correct protocol ? Obviously these nurses were careful as could be, did their job it just shows how easy it is to catch. I highly doubt these nurses were careless in their actions. These disease is terrible, easy to catch and new to officials and how to handle it or what are good prevention steps. This topic might get too hot for this thread, oops ! Anyway I think we can all agree and hope the best for these ladies, appauld healthcate workers everywhere. Pray ebola is stopped somehow everywhere in the world.<3[/QUOTE]

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posted October 16, 2014 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She called CDC and was told it was ok, yes she should have quarantuned herself....but doesnt mean these 2 are incompetent and were totally careless certainly they didnt deserve this disease no one does tjis is highly contagious and serious the numbers dont lie.

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posted October 16, 2014 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MinceyMouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 17, 2014 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MillyX:
Agreed. That's why I don't watch the news, it's full of negativity and all they want to do is scare you. I've had enough of all of those ISIS terrorism talk too. The media is great at controlling the masses and instilling fear.

Even Dr. Oz joined in the witch hunt saying it'll spread to OKC in a week (since it's in Texas.) Just yesterday Obama said Ebola isn't an airborne virus like the flu, you have to come in contact with bodily fluid from the infected source. So although it's scary and all major diseases are scary, the spread of it is akin to AIDS (hope that's not offensive in anyway, I certainly don't mean it to be.) Isn't it only medical professionals (besides the original source) who've been quarantined or contracted it?

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posted October 17, 2014 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venuscorpio86:
The media makes me mad the way they word the nurses not following protocol like the oh well, you know its the nurses fault. What is the correct protocol ? Obviously these nurses were careful as could be, did their job it just shows how easy it is to catch. I highly doubt these nurses were careless in their actions. These disease is terrible, easy to catch and new to officials and how to handle it or what are good prevention steps. This topic might get too hot for this thread, oops ! Anyway I think we can all agree and hope the best for these ladies, appauld healthcate workers everywhere. Pray ebola is stopped somehow everywhere in the world.<3

I agree with most of this, I do not like how the media is shifting blame on nurses and healthcare workers in general.

BUT....that nurse had no business going on the plane. That is irresponsible- if you were in close proximity to ebola patients and started to feel off, she should have not gotten on the plane. Why did she need to go to Atlanta? She put everyone on the plane at risk-that is so unfair to them. So while I commend her for her service, I have to scold her for her selfishness.

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posted October 17, 2014 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally agree with you ! She should have known better even if CDC said it was ok. I dont believe for a minute its not airborne or similar to airborne passed. Why else are hazmat suits needed ? Nurses doctors who treat AIDS patients dont even don all that. She traveled and now two schools are in lockdown, , a wedding dress shop had to close its doors 132 plus people are now having to be quarantined if they even do listen and stay quarantined. The patient from liberia lied on his travel questionairre about not being in contact with someone who had ebola. He carried a patient who had it for crying out loud ! Just four days before flying to Dallas !


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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
I agree with most of this, I do not like how the media is shifting blame on nurses and healthcare workers in general.

BUT....that nurse had no business going on the plane. That is irresponsible- if you were in close proximity to ebola patients and started to feel off, she should have not gotten on the plane. Why did she need to go to Atlanta? She put everyone on the plane at risk-that is so unfair to them. So while I commend her for her service, I have to scold her for her selfishness.


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posted October 17, 2014 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The man who brought the virus over to begin with got accused of lying about his symptoms and now Liberia is even thinking of prosecuting him. If he did lie - THAT is unfair.

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posted October 17, 2014 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, he flat out lied. If he would of survived and recovered Liberia was going to prosecute him for lying.

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posted October 17, 2014 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He helped a woman that was 8 months pregnant and sick. She had not been diagnosed with Ebola until after he left, when she died. He didn't lie, he did not know she had Ebola!

He was actually being a good samaritan by helping her out of a cab. No good deed goes unpunished.

As for the nurse, she had a low grade fever on her way back and the CDC told her she could fly. The CDC and the hospital need to get it together and quit scapegoating everyone.

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posted October 17, 2014 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
He helped a woman that was 8 months pregnant and sick. She had not been diagnosed with Ebola until after he left, when she died. He didn't lie, he did not know she had Ebola!

"Days before he became the first person diagnosed with Ebola on American soil, Thomas Eric Duncan answered "no" to questions about whether he had cared for a patient with the deadly virus."

via CNN.

If he didn't know she had Ebola then CNN wrote that in a great way to make you think he did and answered 'no' anyway.

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posted October 17, 2014 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Yeah, he thought her illness was due to her pregnancy. The sad thing is that the hospital knew his travel history, and sent him home anyway. That mistake could have put a lot more people at risk. It's strange that 2 nurses get sick in what is supposed to be a sterile environment, but the people that were around him for days didn't contract it.

I don't buy for a minute that this virus is difficult to contract, then why the full body suits? That's BS!!! The nurses didn't wear booties and walked around to different areas of the hospital treating other patients....this pretty much assures that there will be more cases. I think that's why they transferred both nurses to other hospitals.

The media hysteria is over the top, but if they weren't making such a big deal about it, the spread would probably be worse.

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posted October 17, 2014 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the ball was dropped in many places, here...I mean, the patient didn't at all suspect ebola? its a hot bed there in Liberia...he lived there, he saw around him the seriousness of it. I just hope that it doesn't get out of control...the blame game is easy to play but at the end of the day for our sake lets just pray and hope for this to be over soon for everyone in the world

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posted October 17, 2014 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twitterbird05     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.vox.com/2014/10/17/6988377/threats-to-americans-ranked-ebola-isis-russia-furniture

Calm down, everyone.

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posted October 17, 2014 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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http://www.vox.com/2014/10/17/6988377/threats-to-americans-ranked-ebola-isis-russ ia-furniture

Calm down, everyone.


I mean, it's still kinda scary... Even with that Fox news poll.
But yeah, whatever happens happens? No point in worrying unless you can point out a specific problem and solve it

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posted October 17, 2014 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherful24     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my hospital is making the Ebola care unit. 5 people in a family tested positive for it in Texas.

not to worry anyone any further but this s*** is about to get serious. the government wouldn't be requiring several hospitals in the nation to start up a care unit if they didn't feel that it wasn't going to spread. it cost millions of dollars to pop up a care unit in such a short amount of time

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posted October 17, 2014 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuscorpio86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://m.koco.com/news/report-of-quarantined-texas-town-not-real-shared-on-a-fake-news-website/29128432

Omg....people check if what your reading is accurate or not....total hoax if this were true it would be breaking news...

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my hospital is making the Ebola care unit. 5 people in a family tested positive for it in Texas.

not to worry anyone any further but this s*** is about to get serious. the government wouldn't be requiring several hospitals in the nation to start up a care unit if they didn't feel that it wasn't going to spread. it cost millions of dollars to pop up a care unit in such a short amount of time


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