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IntuitiveJ
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posted October 17, 2014 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am hoping someone can take a look at this horary for me. I will exchange this evening when I get home from work & answer a question for you with my cards!!

I asked horary- will he contact me before November 27?

Thank you so much!

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posted October 17, 2014 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think so. I've interpreted a few charts today with these significators and generally gave them a go. However, I do have to stress that he *might* be seeing someone.. because he is conjunct Venus and Venus rules his derivative 5th house and they are both present in his 5th house. Unless he has children, he could be with his kids. But he does apply to you, so there is intention to contact you. By the looks of things, I think in 4 time points, probably weeks because he applies from a succeedent house. The Moon-Jupiter conjunction also points towards 4-4.5 time units. So I think it's a yes.. perhaps sooner, mid-November. Also want to point out that he is reaching out while retrograde and *might* change his mind once direct.. I don't want to give you false hopes.

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posted October 17, 2014 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you DM!
Totally makes sense
Would you like a reading later today?
Please post your question!

Thanks again!

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posted October 17, 2014 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am glad it resonated and hope you hear from him soon! I would like a reading, I am struggling with love too. Who isn't? Anything that you can tell me about my romantic future would be great - nothing specific, there sort of is someone but it doesn't seem to go anywhere, so my options are open.

Thank you!

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posted October 17, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I am glad it resonated and hope you hear from him soon! I would like a reading, I am struggling with love too. Who isn't? Anything that you can tell me about my romantic future would be great - nothing specific, there sort of is someone but it doesn't seem to go anywhere, so my options are open.

Thank you!


Would you like to give me his initials & I can look at him?
Or just a general as to what's coming up?
I can't tell time in readings yet
Will do this as soon as I get home later

And thanks again- me too!

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posted October 17, 2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His initial is R.. (mine is A, not sure if you need it or not). I could use clarity on this too, this guy confuses me lol.

Take your time, it's getting late here so I'll probably only read it in the morning. I've done enough surfing for one day.

Have a lovely day!

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posted October 17, 2014 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi intuitive, just to double check...what is his relationship to you? Partner, crush, friend etc.? Want to make sure the right sigs are identified.

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posted October 17, 2014 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem-
Not a partner- more then a crush-
A very long time push/pull connection.
That's the best way I can explain it. We are not together...
Lmk if you see anything diff??

DM- back with your reading coming up.

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posted October 17, 2014 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DM-

I asked my cards what are R's feelings toward you right now
Moving on
Universe
Balance

This is an interesting spread! The first card about moving on tells me he's on a journey to leave the past behind. I'm not neccesarily sure this means you per se- but it's something. This card also signifies a light at the end of a tunnel. Is there something you feel he's been struggling with in relation to you? Things may shift as this card implies forward movement. Even traveling? Calmer waters are ahead and it's telling me a healing process is underway. Is this man going thru a spiritual growth phase? I feel like something is going to shift for him.
The universe is "The World" in traditional tarot. Completion, triumph, peace and fulfillment. Honoring and acknowledging the wonderful soul you are is what this card is all about. This following moving on fits as clarity comes into play then the wisdom you've gained along the way follows suit.
Balance represents the need for harmony with your inner life. Lifestyle adjustments are needed and this could mean relationships, career, etc. This card in traditional tarot is Justice. Is this man involved in legal matters or the legal field by any chance? Have faith that justice will triumph as justice & karma go hand in hand.
I feel like you've been confused about this man for a long time. These 3 cards are showing me that clarity will "click" for him and there will be balance in the end.

I pulled a clarifier for you- shadow came out. This card is a favorite of mine & represents that life is ever changing and action is to be seen. Shadow shows us that it's time to face your worst fears & look into the shadows of your soul. You must learn to confront what you've avoided and walk courageously thru it.

To me this last card was another validation of the previous three. This card in traditional tarot is the moon. Discovering the diamonds in the treasure chest of your soul...

I hope this resonates as I am a fairly new reader!!

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posted October 18, 2014 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
Tgem-
Not a partner- more then a crush-
A very long time push/pull connection.
That's the best way I can explain it. We are not together...
Lmk if you see anything diff??

DM- back with your reading coming up.


The only thing I might add is that his 3rd house of communication is ruled by the sun. The sun is conjunct royal star Spica which is a good omen so you can check to see if the sun makes a parallel/contraparallel to the moon, jupiter or Saturn. I think this could give you a more definitive answer

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posted October 18, 2014 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IntuitiveJ:
DM-

I asked my cards what are R's feelings toward you right now
Moving on
Universe
Balance

This is an interesting spread! The first card about moving on tells me he's on a journey to leave the past behind. I'm not neccesarily sure this means you per se- but it's something. This card also signifies a light at the end of a tunnel. Is there something you feel he's been struggling with in relation to you? Things may shift as this card implies forward movement. Even traveling? Calmer waters are ahead and it's telling me a healing process is underway. Is this man going thru a spiritual growth phase? I feel like something is going to shift for him.
The universe is "The World" in traditional tarot. Completion, triumph, peace and fulfillment. Honoring and acknowledging the wonderful soul you are is what this card is all about. This following moving on fits as clarity comes into play then the wisdom you've gained along the way follows suit.
Balance represents the need for harmony with your inner life. Lifestyle adjustments are needed and this could mean relationships, career, etc. This card in traditional tarot is Justice. Is this man involved in legal matters or the legal field by any chance? Have faith that justice will triumph as justice & karma go hand in hand.
I feel like you've been confused about this man for a long time. These 3 cards are showing me that clarity will "click" for him and there will be balance in the end.

I pulled a clarifier for you- shadow came out. This card is a favorite of mine & represents that life is ever changing and action is to be seen. Shadow shows us that it's time to face your worst fears & look into the shadows of your soul. You must learn to confront what you've avoided and walk courageously thru it.

To me this last card was another validation of the previous three. This card in traditional tarot is the moon. Discovering the diamonds in the treasure chest of your soul...

I hope this resonates as I am a fairly new reader!!


Thank you a lot, IntuitiveJ!

It does resonate - he is recently divorced, so he is moving on from something difficult, yes. It's been 1.5 years but he is still battling for custody. I don't know if that was what Balance was about, because he can't win.. he won't stop though. I don't know where I fit in all this, in the beginning it seemed like I am a positive influence for him, but we seem on different pages and he seems to have friendzoned me.. so idk. I keep getting travel myself, but I don't have a clue what it means.. we both wanted to leave our country, but neither of us can right now. Well, I could and I might, but not immediately.. it's really up in the air right now because my contract expires at the end of the year and the job offer I had did not pull through.. so I might go where the wind takes me, including abroad. I am not counting on anything working out with him to be honest. I would be surprised if it will. Funny about Shadow/Moon, it came up reversed as the outcome card for me and him on a spread a friend did for me. I like him a lot though, but yeah, he really needs to straighten up his situation.. Oh, also about the hidden gem thing.. I get that a lot about him, I have this oracle that is a combination of I Ching and poems of Kuan Yin and that is what it keeps on saying.. it is something that initially doesn't seem to have much value but which grows into a shiny gem. Ha.. we shall see, I guess.

Thank you again!

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posted October 18, 2014 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
The only thing I might add is that his 3rd house of communication is ruled by the sun. The sun is conjunct royal star Spica which is a good omen so you can check to see if the sun makes a parallel/contraparallel to the moon, jupiter or Saturn. I think this could give you a more definitive answer

Give it a go, tgem! I didn't take that avenue because I saw an applying aspect between the sigs, which to me means there will be contact, but I can see it your way too.

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posted October 18, 2014 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks tgem! I checked declinations...
I'm not very good at this so unsure how wide it may be to be considered parallel/contra (I rounded the numbers)...
Sun -9S
Moon - 12N
Jupiter -15N
Saturn- 16 S

Sun is parallel venus tho at 7S. Is this bad for my question? Would it make it a no? Horary confuses me....

Glad it resonated DM!
I still feel there is "justice" in the end for him and clarity will present itself!

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posted October 18, 2014 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, 2 degrees is too wide for a parallel so I wouldn't count the sun to venus as parallel but the good news is venus also rules your house of hopes, wishes and gains so given there is an applying conjunction between the venus and the sun (sitting on Spica) I think it may strengthen the applying sextile between mercury and jupiter.

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posted October 18, 2014 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, 2 degrees is too wide for a parallel so I wouldn't count the sun to venus as parallel but the good news is venus also rules your house of hopes, wishes and gains so given there is an applying conjunction between the venus and the sun (sitting on Spica) I think it may strengthen the applying sextile between mercury and jupiter.

Awesome
Thank you!
I'll let u guys know at the end of next month (which was the time frame for which I asked the question) if there is contact!

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posted October 18, 2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome..yes please let us know what happens as to contact..

Would you mind taking a look at a love relationship for me when you have time? I'd like to know what you see in regards to us..if you want to see him, his initials are DL and mine are JB...I'd appreciate it :smile:

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posted October 18, 2014 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You're welcome..yes please let us know what happens as to contact..

Would you mind taking a look at a love relationship for me when you have time? I'd like to know what you see in regards to us..if you want to see him, his initials are DL and mine are JB...I'd appreciate it :smile:


Of course!!
I'm working today but I will def read on this for you tonight
Quick Q about the houses in the horary I posted. You said venus is ruling my 11th correct? Since I am the one asking the question- is it the 11th house in the chart itself? Or 11 houses from where I (the querrant?) sits? Just trying to understand- thank you! I know next to nothing about horary.
Will be back later w/ your reading!

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posted October 18, 2014 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, since you are the querent asking the question (ruler of the ASC) your 11th house would be the actual 11th house in the chart.

Now say you wanted to know which was his 11th house? Well, he is mercury right (ruler of your 7th?) so you count 11 houses from his 1st (which is technically the DSC) so 11 houses from the DSC if you turn the chart is your 5th house. Hope that makes sense.

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posted October 18, 2014 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks tgem!!

Ok now onto your reading...what's going on with DL & JB...

As I was shuffling discontent & boredom fell out. I believe there are no "accidents" so I'll ask- is one of you (I'm feeling like it may be you?) feels stagnated or stuck with no fwd movement with this connection? Restless & impatient. It feels draining. This card says if one door closes another one opens quickly. Have faith in divine timing.

For the reading I pulled
Triumph
Harmony
Love begins

So aside from the impatience factor of the very first card this spread looks promising. Two major arcanas (triumph is the chariot) and harmony is the lovers. These combined with the last card of love begins is showing me mutual interest in starting something on both ends here. But something is slowing it down & causing impatience. Has this been dragging on for a bit? The final card is signifying new love beginning so it is either brand new with this person or a "fresh start" for you guys. This card clearly states when past issues are resolved and when your heart is truly open and ready to receive - new roads leading you toward love will be revealed.

I hope this resonated! I am a newish reader!
I feel like you should continue to receive & accept guidance from the universe, stay patient, and this relationship may unfold

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posted October 19, 2014 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping for tgem!

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posted October 20, 2014 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Intuitive
Thanks so much for pulling for me! Sorry about the delayed response- I was so shocked and full of emotion upon reading these cards, I cried for a while and really needed to process before I could respond.

I say this because the cards you pulled are (hopefully) frightening accurate!! Not only that, it shows a positive future between us that I have been hoping for such such a VERY long time....

I cannot believe the boredom and discontent fell out as this was for sure no accident! That is exactly what I have been feeling for months. I am stuck with this situation and want desperately for things to materialize but I just can't seem to get things moving however, over the last week I have come to the revelation that I know what I need to do for this to move forward. When you used the phrase "Diving Timing" I just KNEW to keeping holding on a bit longer and have Faith!!!

As far as the actual spread a couple of things really resognated with me. First, the fact that two majors popped up confirmed to me that there really is some destiny involved in this and so the divine timing again makes sense.

This man is VERY special and significant to me, although we haven't seen or spoken in quite some time. It's gotten hard to keep faith when it's been so long and I miss him very much. But I must say, this is the first time I've gotten the Lovers pop up in a spread about him, so that couped with the Love Begins card put my heart and soul into a swirl of joyful emotions.

I know it is said, with divine timing it doesn't matter how much you pray, hope or wish them into your life..it's in Gods time, not ours. But this spread give me the hope and strength to keep going when it really was beginning to die.

Even if you are newish to readings, I believe the cards pulled are directed by the universe so I'll take them
You were very good at interpreting the cards Intuitive..thank you so very very much 💙

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posted October 20, 2014 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're very welcome
Please keep me updated!!

If you'd ever like to exchange again let me know- I'm glad the reading connected for you!

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posted October 28, 2014 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IntuitiveJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping!
For those who read on this horary-
I got contact today.

Thank you!!

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posted October 28, 2014 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YAY!! I am glad, Intuitive!! 11 days huh?! I was looking that it's almost the distance between Moon and Sun (Moon's last aspect and his 3rd house ruler - good call, tgem!!). Timing is giving me some troubles every time.

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posted October 28, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who Hoo!!! Awesome technically you wouldn't have been able to determine the time when this chart was cast because the moon was in a fixed sign and cadent house indicating the time was unknown...so the universe was keeping us in suspense LOL

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