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Sabine
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posted February 16, 2015 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I post the charts for you to review as requested. I added the galactic center as I wonder if you know the significance of it or relevancy.

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posted February 16, 2015 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok great. Can you add the synastry and composite charts as well? Also re-add your Eros asteroid: it's 433 not 443

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posted February 16, 2015 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will do

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posted February 16, 2015 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry it took me awhile.

I did the midpoint composite as I'm not sure which one to do.


Thanks again for looking and sharing your insights. I like to learn how to read also.

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posted February 17, 2015 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Bump*

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posted February 17, 2015 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sabine, you have a very wide conjunction of Isis and Osiris. Normally you only count them within 3 degrees but there is a chance they are parallel in declination. Your Karma asteroid is also conjunct your venus which means you are fated to experience a special love connection. I see some significant things in the natal of Darius. First, he does have an Eros/psyche conjunction within 3 degrees. This is a natal soulmate pairing pointing to the high chance of meeting a primary soulmate in this lifetime, quite possibly a TF. His karma asteroid is conjunct his moon which rules his 11th house. It is speculated that the 11th house is the house of Twinflames. Also his Isis asteroid is conjunct his Alma asteroid by minutes. This is very significant. Google the asteroids Isis and Alma, it represents the soul. Ok let me look at the synastry and composite now.

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posted February 17, 2015 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem, again thank you for taking the time to look at Darius and my charts.

I went on google to search for Isis and Alma conjunction and the significance of it. I had no such luck. May I ask if you can share with me your sources. Thanks much.

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posted February 18, 2015 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok as for the synastry: his juno (marriage asteroid) is on your vertex. This means a fated significant relationship (possibly marriage between you two.) you have a sun/moon conjunction double whammy! This is very significant. You have a valentine/Amor conjunction between you that is also a double whammy (the other is the opposition.). Again, this is a significant soulmate pairing. The two chart rulers are pretty much conjunct (I wonder if your ASC might be off by a few minutes.). The north node's are square also indicating marriage potential. I am also seeing some mirroring and complementing, which is a biggie for assessing twinflames: off the bat your Suns, venus', and jupiter's are mirroring and complementing eachother. This is a definite but I suspect if we were to access the actual aspects between the charts, we'd see other mirroring/complementing as well.
There are two things I was looking for that are missing and that is none of the angles in your synastry are conjunct not do you have an ASC/vertex conjunction in the synastry. These are two aspects we tend to see frequently in TF charts but just because you don't have them doesn't say you are or are not TF's.

As for the composite: significant things I noticed were the Eros/psyche conjunction in the 1st, along with Juno on the ASC. Both the north node and vertex is in the 7th so this does tell me a composite for some kind of very special/significant relationship between you two. You also have your Chiron at the sacred degree of 29 Aquarius in your 4th house. This shows a potential of significant healing between your souls through Kundulini energy..I'll be back.

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posted February 18, 2015 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem, I'm looking at my chart too. Do you look at the Davison composite as another astrologer said that particular method wins out...not sure. Also I had two astrologers rectified my birth time. The first said I was Capricorn rising which is at 9:30 pm whereas he he second one said I was Sag rising at 9:28 pm. I feel more Sag but now that you're alluding that my Asc may be off I'm nervous.

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posted February 18, 2015 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's interesting to note here is that in your composite, the majority of planets sit in your 9th and 11th houses. Typically we see the cluster of planets in the 1st, 7th, or 12th houses. This is a different pattern, but assessing Twinflames through astrology is only in it's infancy so given the other strong indicators I've found, I'm not going to say this says you are or are not TF's. But what is significant is that he main cluster falls in the composite 11th and as I mentioned earlier, there is a strong possibility the 11th house belongs to Twinflames.

Here's what I didn't see: most Natal charts will show significant planets/asteroids/angles conjunct fixed stars by no more than 2 degrees. I did not see any of this, short of the natal of Darius in which I believe he had his MC/Osiris conjunction conjunct royal star Alderbaran.

So after looking at all of this, yes, I do believe you two are primary soulmates in this lifetime with a strong possibility of being Twinflames. HOWEVER- one CANNOT define Twinflames on astrology alone. There are other significant non-astrology signs that really confirm a TF relationship (noteably numerology, synchronicity, psychic connection.....and well, basically intuition!) I am, by no means, an expert at defining this but I've done extensive research. You can also contact IQ through the advertisement at the top of the LL forum page to give you a more in-depth analysis which include several more significant asteroids and such. But on my initial assessment, I would say yes-most likely primary soulmates with a good chance of being Twinflames.

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posted February 18, 2015 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sabine:
Tgem, I'm looking at my chart too. Do you look at the Davison composite as another astrologer said that particular method wins out...not sure. Also I had two astrologers rectified my birth time. The first said I was Capricorn rising which is at 9:30 pm whereas he he second one said I was Sag rising at 9:28 pm. I feel more Sag but now that you're alluding that my Asc may be off I'm nervous.

I wouldn't be nervous about it- your ASC lies right on the cusp of Capricron. It wouldn't surprise me at all if you are technically a Cap ASC. It would make sense actually. As for the Davidson, some people put a lot of stock into it-I don't. I may look at it, but I don't put a lot of emphasis on it.

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posted February 18, 2015 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TGem,

In another thread ... If you don't mind ( I don't want to hijack this thread ) or if you know of one where things are listed of TF common aspects to look for I would love this to look over. You mentioned ASC / vertex conjunction. I never knew that.
With a different soulmate not TF I see his vertex ( SAG) opp my Sun/ Moon mid point. And the ruler of my NN in my 7th (SAG) is conjunct his Sun/ Moon mid His Jupiter is opp my Vertex as well.

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posted February 18, 2015 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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TGem,

In another thread ... If you don't mind ( I don't want to hijack this thread ) or if you know of one where things are listed of TF common aspects to look for I would love this to look over. You mentioned ASC / vertex conjunction. I never knew that.
With a different soulmate not TF I see his vertex ( SAG) opp my Sun/ Moon mid point. And the ruler of my NN in my 7th (SAG) is conjunct his Sun/ Moon mid His Jupiter is opp my Vertex as well.


Below is a link developed by several of us that believe we have most likely found our Twinflame. Although the thread is very long including actual stories etc. the first page gives the significant aspects most of us believe to be consistent between the charts of Twinflames.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/224895.html

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posted February 18, 2015 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem, I did contact iQ. I needed a second set of eyes. He said if there were a few more positive he would definitely say Darius is my twin. When iQ mentioned the word twin flame I felt a jolt and knew that Darius is mine. I couldn't place my finger when I met Darius physically but we felt a strong attraction to each other.

Also, we both are married to different people. We do have a psychic connection. He said he doesn't have the emotional bond to me as I do him but he felt my pain and tried to make amend. He's been married for awhile and I've been married less than two years. My meeting him has changed my outlook on marriage significantly.

I have soulmate connection with my husband and had iQ look at it but I feel the zing more with Darius. We barely talk or see each other...last year it was four times...all in public places but we felt the heat. It's an extremely deep yearning. I feel a push pull. I'm having a very hard time on how to make of all this.

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posted February 18, 2015 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vesta:
TGem,

In another thread ... If you don't mind ( I don't want to hijack this thread ) or if you know of one where things are listed of TF common aspects to look for I would love this to look over. You mentioned ASC / vertex conjunction. I never knew that.
With a different soulmate not TF I see his vertex ( SAG) opp my Sun/ Moon mid point. And the ruler of my NN in my 7th (SAG) is conjunct his Sun/ Moon mid His Jupiter is opp my Vertex as well.


I'm okay with it Vesta as you are looking for answers too and it educates me to read about other findings.

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posted February 18, 2015 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I wouldn't be nervous about it- your ASC lies right on the cusp of Capricron. It wouldn't surprise me at all if you are technically a Cap ASC. It would make sense actually. As for the Davidson, some people put a lot of stock into it-I don't. I may look at it, but I don't put a lot of emphasis on it.

So how do I determine what I am truly. This is going to drive me bonker if I been going around thinking I'm Sag and I happen to be a Cap. Do you know anyone who can confirm which one I am?

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posted February 18, 2015 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem, wouldn't the wrong Asc affect synastry and composite?

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posted February 18, 2015 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for looking and if you want your card read I will read for you. I'm a novice still learning.

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posted February 18, 2015 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After reading the first post. I realized that my valentine and Moria fall on galactic center opp my sun/ moon midpoint.

I can give you the time and date of when my TF came to my home first time if you are looking for info. The transits are quite significant when compared to my natal.
Don't have his natal as we missed each other. But I hope to have it one day soon.

I remember Agape was opp the GC on my sun/moon midpoint and amor w/ the ASC was exact on the great attractor. There was an Eros/ psyche conjunction in Virgo. as well as another soulmate pairing on my Ven/mars midpoint( soomana and soito I spelled those wrong ! ) My progressed sun was conjunct natal Venus.
The ruler of my sun and DSC ( Mars) was rx and crossed over my moon, Opp my ven/ mars midpoint.

So much to list... Let me know


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posted February 18, 2015 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@vesta Are you referring to me or Tgem. I'm learning how to read charts also so I'm pretty new at it. That's why I seek Tgem's help.

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posted February 18, 2015 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sabine:
@vesta Are you referring to me or Tgem. I'm learning how to read charts also so I'm pretty new at it. That's why I seek Tgem's help.

I was asking TGem.

Charts can be difficult unless you know who is involved.
And what is going on to some extent. I have seen some professionals make mistakes as they don't have all the info. They were close but they didn't know who was involved and how it would play out. That is why I love adding asteroids as they truly give so much more insight.

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posted February 18, 2015 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vesta:
I was asking TGem.

Charts can be difficult unless you know who is involved.
And what is going on to some extent. I have seen some professionals make mistakes as they don't have all the info. They were close but they didn't know who was involved and how it would play out. That is why I love adding asteroids as they truly give so much more insight.


Excellent! This is pretty advance stuff.

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posted February 18, 2015 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Tgem...Would you willing to look at my husband chart and mine? Iq told me that he's also a soulmate and have great connection but somehow I feel more deeply with Darius. Why is that I wonder? I just want a second set of eyes on this if you don't mind. Thanks much.

Lance's natal


Again if you can really look at this I greatly appreciate it. iQ said there's a weak link in terms of TF...It really baffled me.

Thanks.


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posted February 18, 2015 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So how do I determine what I am truly. This is going to drive me bonker if I been going around thinking I'm Sag and I happen to be a Cap. Do you know anyone who can confirm which one I am?


You're either a 3rd decon Sag rising or a 1st decon Cap rising. I provided 2 links to each one. Go ahead and look them over and see what description fits you best. http://www.elbertwade.com/page106.html http://www.elbertwade.com/page107.html

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posted February 18, 2015 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sabine:
Tgem, wouldn't the wrong Asc affect synastry and composite?

Not necessarily becasue the sign goes by exact degrees.

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