posted May 08, 2015 02:43 AM            

Thanks to everyy person who jumps to lil Fishys help

Many of you, know that I have this ongoing saga with my "A".
Last night we had this weird fight and things were said and I have no idea what the hell is going on now, what will happen next and if we came to a "true" end?

He basically said he cannot out of "complicated" reasons break up with the girl he is seeing, he even said some other things but I dont want to go into detail.

Was this true?

Then he told me he heard something about me and my ex ( a guy he knows) that happened before and now he talked about it with disgust and anger.

Will we be able to get passed this? WHat are his feelings? Is he now angry/punishing me?

What will happen next?
Have we come to an end?

Basically any of these questions, an overall insight or something please?

I would be ever so greatful if someone can help me to stop this crying.

posted May 08, 2015 05:21 AM            

for the future i got:

wheel of fortue, 8 of cups, 10 of wands, knight of swords, 7 of pents, queen of pents

obiously it is not to be to be with him at this point of time. It looks like as if it is important for you to release him, to work on the hurts and the issues that have come up to the surface with him.
The queen of pents also means "girlfriend" if not enough a woman who has her stuff together

I do have the feeling that he told you to not be able to break with that girl in order not to hurt you.

posted May 08, 2015 05:27 AM            

I'm sorry you are going thru such a horrible time. My first response is to get out of this right away. You have clear signs from him that this is not for you. These are signs the universe is sending you to let you know that you need to end this, and thereafter recover. To wonder now if he is telling the truth, or if there is some glimmer of hope would be subjecting yourself to more torture.

A guy who has a girlfriend and says that he can't leave her is a clear break up call. At this point common sense must prevail. You don't really need a reading!!

However, out of interest I asked - what should you do?
Temperance, 7 of Swords
You need to return to a state of balance and harmony and ditch the state of being bound to this relationship - 7 of swords in Arthurian tarot shows someone in a centre of a forceful river (surrounded by emotion) but taking a stand.

posted May 08, 2015 09:39 AM            

I feel like this man is somewhat of a player because he does have a gf but I feel there are other women on the side so I am going to caution you....and it's about sex with him. He doesn't care enough about anyone but himself, I'm getting cold hearted.

posted May 08, 2015 02:56 PM            

This spread confused me a bit. Sorry for my waffling you can ignore the interpretations if you like, my conclusion is at the end ,

I got

2C 5D QD 4H 7S

2C shows me the recent communication, 2C can show arguments and impatience, 5D is a card of exchanges(but it's usually an exchange of money), was there also a discussion about money/work? Finances are a theme for him in the present. QD could be how he sees you, alternatively QD can represent another woman .4H shows feelings of love and/or commitment in a relationship, but following that the 7S indicates an ending of sorts, it could be the ending of his current relationship, or your relationship with him. Alternatively 7S can show that there is something going to come out.

For helping me further understand I pulled some clarifyer cards,
6H 5S
This tells he wants a peace and harmony in his life, and has a need to break free. This card indicates a breakup.

I pulled 3 more cards,
2D JH QC
This tells me you will hear from him again(I cant confirm if it will be romantic). I think you are the QC, JH tells me he does care about you though.

So I see his current relationship in the cards, there seems to be something to do with money here, maybe she lent him money(Im assuming)? I think for the present he will decide to remain in this relationship, but really I do not think it is going to last. I think he will or already wants to break free from his situation. I believe there is more to come to light. My gut tells me this is not the last you will hear from him. I cant confirm when you will hear from him or if this contact will be romantic or not. I think he does care about you but he wants to break free from this way of living.

I asked the cards for some advice for you,

6C 5S 8C
6C is a card of intuition, 5S shows change in the way of living/breaking free, 8 shows a crossroads. This tells me you need to really think hard about what you want and what is best for you. You need to focus more on yourself.

Sorry about the waffling, i tend to dump my brain onto the screen.

posted May 08, 2015 06:05 PM            

Hanna - thank you yes please. I guess this is my begining of healing now.

posted May 09, 2015 05:54 AM            

what I am having trouble understanding is, how come ( yes free will....) so many people on here and other sites, had such good dare I say excellent predictions for me and him for this month and June also and then this happened.
Noone saw a bad fall out, which is strange, I dont consider this a small fight, I would imagine someone could have seen it coming...

anyway..

As most people, I am hating this feeling of a person I do care about ( romantically and as a person) no matter what might happen, I hate the feeling of having someone so mad ( furious being their word) at me.

I guess I am trying to ask, will me and him manage to mend this? get over the huge bump and not have such hate between us?

( mind you, the hate was brought on by my ****** ex whos main idea of living is ruining peoples lives)

posted May 09, 2015 06:26 AM            

I didnt do another reading but i looked at the reading i did for you above. There is no hatred coming from him towards you, yeah he might be a bit angry at the moment, but I think it's also his general situation as well. But JH is someone who cares alot (we dont hate someone we care about but is easy to get angry at them ), I should have also mentioned that when i saw 2D JH QC that 2D indicates investing and can indicate a satisfactory relationship(I'm just not sure if it would be romantic or not), but QC is a loyal and trustworthy friend. So I think it will get resolved eventually and you can be friends again. He seems to have alot of things around him at the moment, and wants to break free from this way of living.

But I think you also need to think about what you want and what is best for you. 5S says you need to take care of yourself more.

I can read for you later, I'm a bit tired at the moment

posted May 09, 2015 06:32 AM            

I am for now just trying to make some sense of everything in my mind so that I can try and move on in some way, to just try and heal and stop my mind going nuts with so much analyzing.

thank you!

posted May 09, 2015 07:43 AM            

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what I am having trouble understanding is, how come ( yes free will....) so many people on here and other sites, had such good dare I say excellent predictions for me and him for this month and June also and then this happened.
Noone saw a bad fall out, which is strange, I dont consider this a small fight, I would imagine someone could have seen it coming...

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Intuitive, this is an interesting phenomenon. I recall reading good things about you two and asking you to pursue the relationship, etc. The cards appeared very positive.

I have experienced very contradictory readings from good readers - which have been very confusing as they all seemed to be insightful in many ways. It seems the contradictory readings only speak of possibilities. These could change in an instant because we can take any course open to us. I've learnt that it is more important to pay attention to your own intuition or recurrent thoughts - these are less likely to lead you astray. Readings, because they speak of possibilities (which may exist in a different time and dimension) can be very misleading and keep you bound to a situation which should have been dispensed with long ago. You may also have been listening to readers who tended to say positive things.

posted May 09, 2015 07:58 AM            

For example, Hanna, she is one of those who is blunt and doesnt sucar coat she says it more straight forward, she has been giving me interesting reading which showed both argumetns ( which did happen) and good things..
Not saying you or anyone else is wrong, God no! I think you are good also.

posted May 09, 2015 01:14 PM            

If you have any other Q's feel free to ask.

quote:

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
[b] These could change in an instant because we can take any course open to us. I've learnt that it is more important to pay attention to your own intuition or recurrent thoughts - these are less likely to lead you astray. Readings, because they speak of possibilities (which may exist in a different time and dimension) can be very misleading and keep you bound to a situation which should have been dispensed with long ago.

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You bring up some good points here Astro. I've had readings done and the readers picked up the current situation very well, and also on the past. Most did have the same outcome, some did have different outcomes, some outcomes did come to pass already, and some are now coming to pass after a very long time(I got one around 2 years ago). I do think readings generally show the most likely outcome based on the current energy at the time of the reading and if we continue on the current path.

posted May 09, 2015 01:21 PM            

I guess my main concern right now is if me and him will be able to get a foot in the forgivness door.
I dont even care about "them" or me and him romantically right now.
For right now, I wish to see if me and him can get passed the hurt and start some mending.

I feel like it was over blown and exageratted.

Someone made a valid point, that he is taking it to a point where he "needed" to push me away like this.

Maybe I wasnt meant to "know" an argument would happen, so that I dont try to prevent it.
Mind you, I had a dream about a month in advance with the exact date "May 8th" shown to me.

Anyway.

posted May 09, 2015 01:43 PM            

thanks now i feel worse

posted May 09, 2015 09:21 PM            

8 of pents, The Devil fell out, ace of cups and 2 of wands.

So better for now to focus on working on yourself, get rid of your hatred to others, your woes, your emotional dependency. When I was putting cards down, the devil slipped out which confirms this connection is currently consuming you in negative way. I feel hatred, disappointment not necessarily towards the guy but towards someone else, but this is misdirected. In fact, seems like a lot of those comes from within you but directed to others.

Mastering yourself is key and that is not for him or to one up others. You have lots to learn in order to create a relationship you want. Self-mastery lessons are indicated.

if you do a period of that, you will be rewarded with Ace of Cups- ONLY after the mastery. This can change, because The Devil fell down when I put the cards up there like I said, and this is a huge block. This confirms the next 3 months is a key for you- if you neglect mastery of yourself then the connection would not be mended, either delay, or shattered.

I feel there is a connection between you and this guy, but both energy is tainted, too much pull- lots of wants but not enough calm energy, which is sorely needed to sustain any connection. which is why the guy 'pulled' away and you both 'blew' up. This is confirmed by the tower- it was a ticking time bomb, a major arcana. Even if you got together at this time, it will be broken beyond repair within 3 months. This is not a healing connection, this is destructive right now because the pull is so great but it is a possessive pull, not necessarily a sustainable, rejuvenating pull. This destroys both of you slowly.

Last card was 2 of wands, which confirms again a new start is possible, if cautiously, but it all relies on you working on yourself- and giving up a bit- let universe take care in untangling the tainted energy surrounding you two. Sounds boring? Of course, but that shows the emotional dependency.

The guy and the woman will not stay that long, but if you interfere, even if he breaks up- he will try to find someone else, not you. Due to these blocks.

I will try clarify the Devil and Tower - what REALLY will happen if you take your time and aCtually work on yourself, clearing all the negativity - creating a safe space inside your head away from hatred and high expectations.

6 Of wands (victory) and two of cups are indicated.

posted May 09, 2015 09:53 PM            

I read carefully and understood what you wrote. Actually this was a long process before,it took a long long time for me and him (after our break up) to get to a good calm place, yes we had small arguments but we got back on our feet. I worked on myself and had patience with him and yes it was hard and not much happened but progress was made. We went from 1 contact a month to contact more frequently.
And then that night Boom it exploded. I know I triguered it I guess I lost patience and him poking me just blew up like you said from both sides.
It was actually going nice we were building a friendship again. Not even as lovers just friendship.
I got impatient I would say and I was in a way "punished" to restart this.
I guess this is my big life lesson and it needs to be mastered.

posted May 09, 2015 10:10 PM            

because as you wrote- all you did these time was to rebuild - with him. To mend- your connection. To be friend- with him. To attain calmness- with him.

Hardly you mention yourself- without him.

So sellf-mastery indicated here is you, on yourself.

The positive cards tend to be quite solitary- 8 of pents, 2 of wands, 6 of wands. The cards that relates to your relationship are the devil, the tower and finalized by two of cups

this tells me, as long as you still focusing on the relationship and him instead of working with yourself, on yourself, the energy of the devil and the tower will always repeat themselves - as the 2 of cups energy as outcome is overpowered by The Devil and The Tower- so it means the path is not set strongly, unless you focus and clear your head where the actual problem is.

The devil also tells about insincerity from both sides.

I understand you are in pain right now, but from the cards it does show this has been going on for quite sometime and gets quite complicated. The pull is so great that it often could be blinding, the needs and the wants.

posted May 09, 2015 10:27 PM            

To endure such connection for months shows a strength of character. It shows you are very loyal. you won't give up - or you wont easily give up at least, for someone you truly care about. For someone you truly want. That is strength.

A right relationship will definitely strengthen you more- but as it is you are a strong person. You are just discouraged when someone questions your intent, so your response might be seen as attack or negativity but you are just protecting yourself, I feel this.

You are vulnerable, yes, but you are not weak. The way you can reconcile your strength with your vulnerability is to be sincere. let out your true feelings - be sincere with it- instead of protecting it with fear , because you are a kind person inside, it is just you don't want to be seen as weak but don't exactly understand how to show that side of you without being seen as weak... so you misdirect.

This guy from the cards are fighting himself, not you. I am sure when you fought, you wanted to say one thing but come out the other and that is why he also attacks you back. Inside you only want him to know, how much he means to you and that is why you would like to be with him, to learn together through this life with him. But you are afraid- of getting hurt. So you said a few things out of reflex that might have triggered his defensive mode- which triggers your own.

This is the part I said about self-mastery- to understand these part and how it can be detrimental.

Self-mastery to you means to reconcile those three - head, heart and sincerity.

posted May 10, 2015 06:59 AM            

Not to get too much into it. Thank you, I do understand how this is what I needed more than any sort of reading.