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junemonth
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posted May 13, 2015 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for junemonth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, I'm new to astrology. I study astrology a bit, so I still have a lot of learning to do.
I do have quite some questions regarding to my birth chart.
I'm trying to figure out why my pesonality is the way it is.
Why my whole life, I only go after one thing, that is independent. Where do I get the fiercely independent trait from?

And why I only feel the Sagittarius Uranus and the Gemini in my chart? Especially with the Uranus, it is acting up really STRONG!! The older I get, the more I see how this Uranus placement effecting me alot! It like completely take over me.

1. So Uranus 'SQUARED" both my Sun and Moon? No wonder why I can't seem to express the nature of my Pisces sun sign.
Is "Uranus squared Sun" the same term as 'Sun square Uranus'?

Ah, the 'Uranus Opppostion Moon', I just look it up and it said: You tend to feel strongly about certain things where no one can force you to change. In fact, the more that others oppose or question your feelings, the more unyielding you likely become. --------This is 200% correct!! Described me EXACTLY!!

Is "Uranus squared Sun" the same term and meaning as 'Sun square Uranus'?

'Sun squared Unranus' said: In the natal chart encourage people to do things their own way. Always very complex people, and often extremely intelligent and independent. ---- This also described me ALOT too!

2. For my freedom, or if anyone touch my freedom. I'm willing to break off any relations if needed.
I'm not scare of power, I'm not even scare of death. I'm not even scare of my boss, lol
One time in the past, I did quit a good pay job just because my boss was trying to control me. Now I work at a less pay job, but I have zero regrets. I'm that stubborn.
Must be the Uranus? But nah, I just hate to be control.

I did have an emotionally abusive childhood. I did break free from my parents. I'm independent since age, and I continue that way throughout my whole adult life. I just love freedom so much, the life where I can 'fly free like a bird in the sky'.
In my whole childhood, I was just 'a fish in the bowl', 'a bird in the cage'. I resent that life, it seem like my whole goal in life is freedom and independent, it like my life motivation.
I think it had to do with my childhood experience more than my natal chart.

3. And I hate to be questioned, or anyone try to interfere with my life.
I don't live with my parents, I don't use a penny of their money, they are in no position to dictate me how I should live my life.
Not just only my parents, I hate anyone who try control me.

My whole life, I fight for freedom so I hate to be pinned down. And I will do everything I can to make sure I won't be pinned down by anyone.

Pretty much I have this attitude: I don't want to depend on anyone for anything. I only have myself to depend on. Both financially and emotionally, I don't want to depend on anyone.
Same to my love life, NEVER once I depend on him---my significant other.
Where this fiercely independent come from? The Uranus again?

4. Well, my Uranus is in Sagittarius, I don't know how to interpret that. I don't know what it mean that both my Sun and Moon are 'uncomfortable" with Uranus? Does that means Uranus take over the nature of my sun and moon?
But then why I feel my personality is very Gemini? I feel I'm more Gemini than Sagittarius.

Also what I know from my chart is my Gemini Moon 'Squared' my Pisces Sun. Therefore my Pisces Sun is diluted.
This is very true because I am very Logical and Rational. I'm also very Analytical, and very Level-Headed.
I don't let my emotions control me, it always my logic/reason that in control. I strongly use my intellecture reasoning over my emotions. This must come from my Gemini Moon "Squared' my Pisces Sun right?

5. I do have emotions, but something is preventing me from showing it. I thought it was the Gemini Moon squared my Pisces Sun, but now it the Uranus?
Or it is the 12thHouse moon that casue me to I burried my emotions alot, I just won't let my emotions show. I never let myself vulnerable to anyone.

I upload my chart pic below, please help me answer these questions.
And question 6 and 7 below.

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VacantGazer
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posted May 13, 2015 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
upload your chart so we can see.


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junemonth
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posted May 13, 2015 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for junemonth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have:
Moon Opposition Uranus orb: 0 degree
Sun Square Uranus orb: 6 degree
Sun Square Moon orb: 6 degree

Uh... isn't 'square' 6 degree is kindda bad? No wonder why my Pisces Sun is diluted.


T-Square
Uranus in 13 degree Sagittarius
Sun in 19 degree Pisces
Moon in 13 degree Gemini

Another T-Square
Jupiter in 9 degree Capricorn
MC in 9 degree Aries
Ascendant in 12 degree Cancer


6. Also, being a Pisces Sun, I was told I'm suppose to love water. But NOPE!! I HATE hate ocean, lakes, water. I NEVER have any peace with water.
I also can't swim, and I have zero interest in learning how to swim.

I ONLY love Mountain, I hiked the Mountain by myself. The drive for hours to the top of the Mountain. I ONLY feel peace when I'm at the mountain, or when I see mountain. Why is that? This is NOT Pisces at all, but I'm a Pisces.
Anywhere in my chart indicate why I'm a fish, but I hate ocean so much?
I only find peace when I'm in the mountain, or see mountain. When I'm on the mountain, I feel like it home, like it where I belong and it make me calm.
It like I have a bond with mountain, something dry and lifeless. It is the Uranus acting up again?

7.However, I do have some traits that very Pisces. That is I always feel sad for those who are unfortunate.
I go out of my way to help homeless. I buy homeless food, I give them money. I volunteer on holiday to help out at Homeless shelter.
I also want to go to poor third world countries to do volunteer/charity works, help those hungry/orphaned childrens there.
I'm also very Self-sacrifice. I'm just a selfless person as long as nobody touch my independent. I think that come from my Pisces Sun right?

But overall, I just don't feel Pisces in me. I feel very Gemini. It seem like the Gemini Moon is taking over. From my personality, to my character, to my thinking, to how I use my logic to solve things.
Why? Must be the Gemini Moon? So pretty much my Moon squared my Sun, so it take control over my Sun nature?

I thought the Sun is powerful because it represent your core-self. But this Pisces sun is just weak. Perhaps it because I'm a female, so the Moon play an important role?
And that Uranus, all those fiercely independent traits I have in the above post.
I feel the older I get, the more it starting to show out strongly.

btw, I hate to be clingy, never once in my life I cling to anyone. Again, independent and freedom is VERY important to me. Why is that? It is from the Uranus?
People that know me all say I have "character", why is that? Is that from the Uranus also?

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posted May 13, 2015 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your rising sign is in cancer making the moon your chart ruler, which is in gemini. The moon is located in the 12th house, so I think that would contribute to you struggling to express your emotions.

I also have moon in gemini but it is opposing my Neptune in saggitarius. My sun is at the apex of the t-square, and lies in the 12th. My moon is 29 deg gem and my sun is 5 deg libra. I too have trouble at times expressin myself.

But I dont see squares as necessarily a bad thing, they just show where work might need to be done and they initiate action.

I think the MC more less always squares the ascendant.

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junemonth
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posted May 13, 2015 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for junemonth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THANK YOU so much for your help, really appreciate.
Why is the Moon my chart ruler? Why not my Sun?
But then my sun is diluted by my Aquarius Venus and my Gemini Moon.

You right, i see it here http://www.lunarliving.org/moon/chartrulers.html
I found it. If your ascendent is Cancer, then the Ruler is your Moon, and my Moon is Gemini.
Hehe, now I got the answered to why people think I'm Gemini, I just don't come across as Pisces.


And all the fiercely independent character I have. I always thought it the Uranus.

All the question 1-5 I have in the first post are all about the fiercely independent nature I have. It is come from the Uranus?
Or perhaps it from my emotionally abusive childhood experience that caused me to break free from my parents.
I RESENT the life where I'm only 'a fish in the bowl', 'a bird in the cage' life.
All my life, I go after my freedom and independent, why is that?

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posted May 13, 2015 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your chart ruler is the moon because your asc sign is cancer. Your chart ruler is the planet that rules your ascendent.

The moon rules cancer.


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junemonth
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posted May 14, 2015 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for junemonth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone well known about Uranus? Please help read the Uranus in my chart. Thank you

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junemonth
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posted May 16, 2015 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for junemonth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Seimei
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posted May 16, 2015 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by junemonth:
Anyone well known about Uranus? Please help read the Uranus in my chart. Thank you

:::Where do I get the fiercely independent trait from?::::

I am gong to tell to something different.
With geocentric Uranus at its own Heliocentric SOUTH NODE, and with the moon and its node emphasizing it URANUS IS VERY STRONG IN YOUR CHART,
ADDITIONALLY the Sun and Mercury are at the Heliocentric South node of Juno.
You feel a commitment to change so strong
you often don't know where to start.
Also Heliocentric Venus is at the south Heliocentric node of Pluto sextile node of Mars. Very deep feelings and a lot of creative energy that you want to use.
Slow down as much as you can, meditate, need to relax yourself before you
run too fast trying to change the world.
I have little doubt that you already have
and will continue to do so.,
You have more heliocentric placements that most people.
Remember Uranus is about the NEW, about change, is the higher octave of Mercury(thought) very electric.It is the only body in our solar system that spins on its side. I suggest you focus on staying grounded so irrational thoughts don't ruin your life. Only that which is balanced ASCENDS.
The moon may be called chart ruler, but nothing is ruling you, .You hold the reigns to your life, hold tight for a wild ride.

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junemonth
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posted May 16, 2015 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for junemonth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH for your reading. It make sense.

I have Mars and Saturn in 5th House. BOTH my Mars and Saturn are Scorpio.
I heard Saturn in 5th House means NO children right?

I also noticed I have Sun Conjunct Mercury, and Sun Square Moon.
Maybe that is why my Gemini moon is much stronger than my sun?

I have Moon Opposition Uranus, and Sun Square Uranus, maybe that why my Uranus is strong?

My NorthNode is in Gemini, but my South Node is in Sagitatarius
And Uranus Opppostion North Node, maybe this why my Uranus is strong?

I have the Gemini Moon in 12th House, which is bad.
But I have Venus Trine Pluto, I heard that is a good placement right?

Is my chart the worst chart you ever seen? I feel that I have the worst chart.
But I love my independence and freedom too much. I actually like my Uranus, it make me Fianancially independent in life, and I'm happy.

Sorry, I'm still new to learn astrology. So I have alot to learn from everyone.

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junemonth
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posted May 17, 2015 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for junemonth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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peacefulclouds
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posted May 18, 2015 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to put it blunt, I knew right away before reading your chart you were a pisces with some scorp influence - your mars in scorp in 5th house and your sun in pisces in 9th house (house of travel, principles & spirituality). Your ascendant in Cancer also intensifies the emotional reaction you have regarding a few things which I will explain below

This is not wholly uranus influence, your hatred (well, dislike) for anything that interfere with your freedom and independence (since you love it) is not wholly sagittarius trait. Uranus is a hard to pin down planet, yes, but it is also an outer planet- it has influence but never too strong- not as the main planets. edit: It does tie in with the south node as explained by seimei above- so I am explaining it from basic pov first- main planets.

Right away what influences you the most is your pisces sun in 9th, exacerbated by its trine with Scorpio mars on the 5th- your reaction/response (pisces) become way intense(scorpio mars, action) to whatever stops your way or interfere with your belief & principles & philosophy (9th)

in a way for me it is interesting to see because it actually shows your love for independence is actually inspired by your fear for non-freedom- thus the hate. Saturn on the 5th also could inspire that fear in you, that is why you react so strongly on anything that may question your belief ( like right about now, you may already feeling quite irritated by my post lol)

Your moon squaring Mercury also influences your communication regarding your emotion, which may push you to become independent if u had lots of troubles with parental/family figures and mars being in scorpio helps you go through things fearlessly, so that also helps you to realize your current position (independent)

so to answer your question, I can tell you have a gemini moon influence, but not so much of uranus & sagitarius influence, more like house 9 & 5 plus your sun and mars infuence, which is pisces and scorpio. So you are actually acting quite 'normal' for such configuration (pisces sun 9th scorpio mars 5th & cancer asc)

and if you believe in karma/past life, you're strongly carrying some past life traits into this life and also its karma (looking quickly t your south & north nodes)

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posted May 18, 2015 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for junemonth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your reply, thank you. I'm still new to astrology, so I still have alot to learn. Pardon me for all my questions and confusion.

I upload image of my Aspects below,
I do NOT have any Moon Square Mercury.
However, I do have Sun Square Moon, that explained why my Sun is diluted.

I do NOT feel any Cancer Asc in me, zip zero nada!
I have alot of Cancer friends so I know their traits. They emotional, likes to cry, loves family too much, place too much important on love.
But I'm NOTHING like that.

I hate cry, I have not cry since I left my abusive mother house at age 18, and now I am 30, so that make it more than a decade away from my abusive mother.
I resent my abusive mother, I have not drop a tear eversince I left her house.
Cry to me is failture, cry to me is like lose a war battle. So No, I do not cry, uh... rather die than cry.

Family was NEVER important to me. NEVER was, NEVER is and NEVER will.
Love is last on my priority list. Must be my Aquarius Venus acting up.

I need my independent and freedom. For my independent, I am willing to left my family and left any love, if it touches my freedom.
I am ridiculously stubborn, and I march to the beat of my own drum.
So much for Cancer Asc traits eh? LOL

I'm logical, I'm analyical to the point of over-analyze things. I'm practicial, and I'm a realist. ---- These must be the Saturn in 5th House acting up.
My principles are sky high, and my ego is too high.
I'm darn sure none of these are Cancer Asc traits.

My Chart Ruler is Gemini, because my Asc is Cancer. And the Moon rule Cancer, my Moon is in Gemini, so that make Gemini my Chart Ruler.
Meaning it should be stronger than my Pisces Sun right? Since it my Chart Ruler.

The 3 aspects that I feel the most in my chart are:
Uranus Opposition Moon -- No one can force me to change. The more others oppose to it, the more unyielding I am.
Uranus square Sun -- I do things MY way, I'm very complex and I'm extremely independent.
and Mars Conjunction Saturn

I don't feel any Cancer in me at all. I do feel Pisces, but Cancer? NOPE!!
I'm too logical and too realist to be Cancer Asc
Can someone explained why my Cancer Asc is not working? Because all my personality and chracteristics does NOT match up with any Cancer traits.

For my freedom, or if anyone touch my freedom. I'm willing to break off any relations if needed.
I'm not scare of power, I'm not even scare of death. I'm not even scare of my boss.
In the past, I did quit a good pay job just because my boss was trying to control me. Now I work at a less pay job, but I have zero regrets. Yes, I'm that stubborn.
Sure this is not Cancer Asc traits.

I'm not acting normal for a Cancer Asc, because I know many Cancer people. NONE of them are like my chracteristic.
What is the point of Cancer Asc, when it not having any effect on me?


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posted May 18, 2015 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ascendant is 'look' and it's cardinal- so it is a mover, active one of the water zodiacs

and believe me you have cancer traits more than you thought but if you want to learn, you need to have an open mind instead of having predisposed assumptions from pop astrology, I think, and try to see beyond what you want or don't want to see.

Your rigidity and intensity is not gemini at all honestly- and your intense reaction is definitely your scorp mars and pisces sun

I'm a capricorn asc, scorp moon and pisces sun and mars in Sag, my chart ruler is Saturn, no one sees me as Pisces, so I can identify you straight away because we're similar in that regard

but I'll take my leave from here, someone else will help you good luck & take care

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junemonth
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posted May 20, 2015 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for junemonth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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