posted July 18, 2015 04:05 PM            

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I think there should be a "locked" thread on the front page as "Free Reading : Rules" both sitters and readers should abide by. Or at least something along those lines.
So, that both current sitters, readers and new ones know where to draw the line.

These rules would also apply to exchange threads which I have also noticed took an unwanted turn.

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This was brought up by MineAgain, and I am wondering if there is a way to permanently sticky this thread idea at the top of the page without having to bump it every couple of hours.

This thread could a 'summary of suggested reading etiquette rules' for readers and sitters to go over, and also serve as a help thread. What I mean by this is when conflict arises, a poster can ask for an email by a mod, and get advice on how to handle the situation. Questions about etiquette can also be placed in here, where anyone can answer them.

Since free readings has become a big topic lately, this might be the best way to have constructive and important dialogue in a neutral and safe manner.

I have no problem if people want to discuss this issue in the current threads, but I also think it is one of those situations that can lead to hard feelings and negative vibes if we keep making threads on it.

posted July 18, 2015 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Randall, I have an idea to propose to you based on the suggestions of other posters after recent events and threads:

This was brought up by MineAgain, and I am wondering if there is a way to permanently sticky this thread idea at the top of the page without having to bump it every couple of hours.

This thread could a 'summary of suggested reading etiquette rules' for readers and sitters to go over, and also serve as a help thread. What I mean by this is when conflict arises, a poster can ask for an email by a mod, and get advice on how to handle the situation. Questions about etiquette can also be placed in here, where anyone can answer them.

Since free readings has become a big topic lately, this might be the best way to have constructive and important dialogue in a neutral and safe manner.

I have no problem if people want to discuss this issue in the current threads, but I also think it is one of those situations that can lead to hard feelings and negative vibes if we keep making threads on it.

Also, it may not be a bad idea to consider another mod for this forum, only because some of them are not as active (which is understandable because we all have lives!), which might to help with these situations and managing this thread as well.

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posted July 20, 2015 12:25 PM            

Reading the rules would have to be a pre-requisite. The problem with this method is that certain people won't bother reading the rules beforehand.

posted July 20, 2015 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Readers can always decline to read for someone for any reason or no reason at all. There's nothing wrong with doing so.

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posted July 20, 2015 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Readers can always decline to read for someone for any reason or no reason at all. There's nothing wrong with doing so.

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After, some thought on this situation. Randall is right about a reader can refuse to read for someone who has asked too many times.
The reason I do not like rules being set up is we start to get into territory of limiting readings for all here on this board.
Yet, Each reader can offer different insight into a situation as not every reader will get the exact same information. By limiting readings/ information we hinder spiritual growth to the querent and the reader.
If you believe within your heart not your head remember to leave your ego out of this. that you should not read for them right at this time let them know that spirit is telling you to do so. I believe that a few readers have seen some familiar names several times yes and your ego goes into overdrive OMG not them again. ( lol ) anyway, it is not for our ego to decide if spirit feels they need. Message and led them to you yet again then there may be a good reason.
Now, possibility remains they just don't have a clue where to turn and looking for guidance and if you are not willing to do that then go ahead get mad at me see if I care 😡 I gonna say it ! "You don't belong here ".

I am here to show compassion and help where I can, just the way an earth angel Would do.

From my other post ..

posted July 18, 2015 01:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for vesta Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Adding ....
As I saw the picture of angel above. I thought you know if I were in pain and needed answers and an angel were sitting next to me. You can bet I would be asking them a million questions. They would never turn me away, they would do everything they could to ease my pain. There would be no monetary cost simply the love they have for mankind to see everyone happy, loved and at peace.

If I were to strive to be like someone it would be them. When Gabriel spoke to me it was the most beautiful loving voice I have ever heard. Soft, tender, compassionate like a new mother talking to her new born child with do much love. Yet standing firm in what was being said like a command.
I choose to be beautiful like that and strive for it even if I do that through kind loving acts for others here on LL in the form of readings.

posted July 20, 2015 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Julz87:
Vesta, <33 you have helped me a lot with your readings you have no idea.

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Omg ! I was thinking about you the other day and wondering how things have worked out for you.

posted July 20, 2015 01:39 PM            

Finding balance is key

Sometimes I wonder if some forget about free will. I have no qualms about people asking a lot of questions, but when one asks the same question over and over again, it boggles my mind because either they 1) don't want to accept reality, or 2) are waiting for that one reader to tell them what they want to hear. If you want to ask again about a topic, I am a firm believer you need to wait at least a week on the same question and consider asking someone else. I agree that posters are looking for comfort, but at the same time you prevent personal growth by not addressing the issues within.

I agree with LeeLoo about the obsession aspect, give things time to work out and trust in the universe, even if things do not turn out the way you like- it happens for a reason.

Offering those who haven't asked in a while

This is a cool concept, and I am fine with it if someone prefers to do it. This can prevent some posters from asking the same question over and over again, and also helps the newer posters feel comfortable. I think people who are newer to this site feel intimidated when seeing those of us who know each other exchange a lot, and this can help to make them feel more welcome. Especially those who cannot exchange in return, I imagine it would be a little daunting to ask someone when they enter a topic called an 'exchange' thread, so I always encourage readers to take on those who cannot exchange in return.

Proper reading etiquette-not every one respects it

I don't have a problem with people asking multiple questions, because as the reader you can tell them no. If you don't say no and remain frustrated, then you aren't helping yourself out. I will not complain about this because if it really bothered me, I would say no. It is okay to turn down posters if you feel overwhelmed, no one is going to judge you for it. However, this needs to be communicated to the question asker so they realize your concerns.

It is totally okay to decline if you aren't up to it, remember as the reader you have to take care of yourself as well. Even if you need a few days to get back to the poster, it is totally fine.

What I cannot stand are the 'this can't be right, read again' attitudes. We are all here to learn and no one is going to be 100% perfect. I've seen on a few occasions posters getting haughty and self-righteous over the fact the reader didn't give them the one answer they secretly wanted. Be grateful for the reading and offer constructive criticism, not how the reader is 'wrong' and demand more from them.

Not saying thank you as erickaf pointed out- always be thankful and grateful to the posters. I always make a point to thank anyone who reads for me, and I think that should be the standard. Reading takes a lot of time and energy on the reader's side, so it is no small task to help someone out.

Negative energy, it is here and should be avoided

This forum is primarily positive, but sadly does not avoid the occasional negative energy that comes in. I really detest readers and posters that are demanding. One example is the 'exchanges for one hour' thread. I am 100% against those, because it is suggesting that your questions are so important and must be answered in one hour only. The only time I think you should put a time limit on a reading is if is related to an emergency, otherwise it comes off as elitist. I've seen a few posters berate others for not getting back right away, which is wrong.

This is a free site where people donate their time, and that should be respected. I may not always get back to people right away but I never forget someone's request and always give my best effort. This is something that all readers should be given respect for, not berated because I didn't answer your repetitive question in under an hour.

Asking several follow up questions is something I don't prefer either. These take a lot of time and effort and sometimes more than the original question. Limiting the follow-up to 1-2 is good to continue the dialogue but not take advantage of the reader. Otherwise, you might as well make a new thread because essentially you are asking the reader for another reading.

posted July 20, 2015 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
I think term 'reading etiquette' is more productive here.
I don't think there should be a thread telling people what they should and shouldn't do, but I think there should be reminders of basic things e.g thank you, confirmation that readers can refuse to read for people. For ease, I'm going to post Bella's response from the previous thread below mine...

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posted July 20, 2015 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by MineAgain:
I call it "rules" but it doesn't have to be "rules" per se.

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I wasn't actually taking a dig at you 😔 - sorry if it came across that way. I was typing my thoughts.

I just think that if we continue to talk about the implementation of rules...then it suggests that we intend to create the structure that Randall says she wants to avoid.

However, if we call it etiquette (perhaps), it sounds less authoritarian and sounds like we (those who are in favour) actually we want to come to agreement between us, which makes the majority of us happy (I say majority, because you can never please everyone!)

posted July 20, 2015 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Readers can always decline to read for someone for any reason or no reason at all. There's nothing wrong with doing so.

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posted July 20, 2015 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Unfortunately, this software has no sticky function. I've always let this Forum run itself for the most part, because I felt that structure would inhibit the energy exchange. What are some of the proposed suggestions for etiquette?

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Are you open to considering updating the platform including stickies in the future? The reason I say so is because it would benefit the site as whole. For example, the threads on "LL Rules" and "How to Post a Chart" (this one would be great for this forum as well) would be great things to sticky at the top of Astro 2.0 since most people populate there, and is much easier for people to view if they have questions. I get the energy issue, but I also don't think a few stickies at the top is harmful.

Etiquette examples are mentioned below in Ikja's post, but really when I mean etiquette I do not mean 'rules' but rather guidelines and suggestions created by the community so that way both readers and requestors have ideas on engaging properly and handling tough situations.

It also could be used as a troubleshoot thread, in the case a tense moment comes up. Then instead of having a thread blow up, a poster can request a mod email or post on there. People can also ask questions about how readings work, which would be very helpful and streamline all of the typical questions newer users have.