posted September 12, 2015 02:44 PM            

Thank you in advance! Let me know if you need more info/different type of charts. I chose progressed/SA because I was checking those at the time it occurred to me to ask in here.

posted September 12, 2015 04:39 PM            

Please let me know if I'm correct.

posted September 12, 2015 05:01 PM            

What I meant by him playing out his chart is that I fail to see him in this chart, or his chart in him.. it's as if I'm looking but I'm not fully seeing.. Anyways, the birth time is pretty accurate, though I modified the one he initially provided (giving him a late Gemini rising) because he said he identifies more as a Cancer rising than a Gemini rising.

You are right about his digestive problems, they started about 1.5-2 years ago, as a side-effect from a medication he received for an illness he later discovered he didn't have. They've been even more debilitating than his initial condition, condemning him to abandon his work because he couldn't leave his house. His health got a bit better 7 months ago when we got together (his words, and his family's, not mine) and I think this, as well as other hints, point to a big psychosomatic component. However, he's still not functional, and meds don't work.

I believe a lot can be improved with the right diet and lifestyle, but he's been very reluctant towards that. He's a heavy drinker, smoker and fast-food lover, hates fruit with a passion and refuses to give up the things he thinks he loves. It's very frustrating to watch, it feels like he's slowly killing himself like this.

posted September 12, 2015 06:24 PM            

*I* thought he looked and behaved like a Gemini rising, especially since he initially reminded me of a common friend who is also a Gem rising, but he said he identifies more as a Cancer rising. I'll say this much: he's the biggest cuddler I've ever had the pleasure of hanging out with! lol I think both Gemini and Cancer fit him, he has elements from both, it's hard for me to say. His condition falls under Gemini's jurisdiction though.

I believe his main condition started out as psychosomatic, but definitely became organic after all these years. I say this, despite being a practitioner of traditional medicine, because it started after the end of a traumatic event, which lasted 5-6 years. He's been to several doctors already, had plenty of tests done and they came back normal or only slightly modified - not enough to justify his symptoms. So far, none of them can tell us a clear diagnosis, but at least we cleared out a couple of them. Another hypothesis of mine is an environmental cause.

posted October 19, 2015 06:40 PM            

I'm sorry to hear about your boyfriend's condition.
With all that stuff in Virgo, it really doesn't surprise me (I also have digestive issues and a myriad of other things related to food intake and emotions management).

In terms of love/romance, I'd say this is someone who may take some time to warm up initially, and may have some doubts/insecurities about the solidity of the connection. There might be some fussiness or a critical or sometimes seemingly impersonal approach to emotional matters, but there's also the potential for devotion and stability, once he feels safe enough to be more "himself".

His Virgo Moon and Venus suggest that the women in his life may play out a Virgoan role, and it seems like you do. For instance, trying to make him change his dietary habits, in order to improve his health. So I believe this is a case of projection, here (as is often the case).

I'd assume his nervous system is quite fragile, especially if he has a Gemini rising (a lot of Mercurial energy).

But regardless, don't forget that he has his Sun, Mercury and Mars in the 3H (with this chart anyway), thereby possibly giving him that "Gemini" vibe, and stressing the nerves-related issues. Hence his rising might very well be Cancer (that would make sense with his not wanting to change his eating habits -- I've noticed this can be a Cancerian thing: attachment to the way you eat, unhealthy eating, etc). Although, here again, he has Moon in the 4H with Venus there and to top it off it's in Virgo (a very sensitive sign, physically at least).

tSaturn is squaring his Mars and will then square his Moon and later on, Venus (December/January or so). So be on the lookout for that as it can point to issues with the women in his life, or some sort of separation, either physical or emotional (or both). Health problems might continue, or worsen even.

tNeptune currently opposing his Moon is also something you should take into consideration, because it can sometimes point to a sudden awakening after the transit is over, with some disillusionment or confusion. Unclear boundaries can be a problem with this one, and/or a relationship where one partner is the "victim" and the other is the "savior" (unhealthy attachment is a possibility here).

I hope this doesn't sound too concerning to you. If so, I am sorry, I don't mean to come off negatively. It's just that I've experienced a lot of similar transits as the ones he is having now and they all had something challenging about them.
Just be aware of that, but please don't worry, okay?

I hope your SO finds the courage to change his life style. As a strongly Virgo-influenced person (and if his rising is in Cancer, to boot), he definitely will have to deal with those things at one point or another.

posted October 20, 2015 07:21 AM            

I found your observations very helpful and you make a good point about his 3H planets. It's a tough call, he has elements from both Cancer and Gemini, but I vote more for Gemini. I say this because I know the Asc is one of the health houses and his main and oldest symptom is hand tremor; he developed his digestive symptoms as side-effects to the medication he was given (to treat a genetic disease he doesn't have), but in the last 4-5 months he started having seizures and that complicates his diagnosis. There are also hints to Gem rising from the way he behaves and looks (tall and skinny, long haired) and from the first conversations we had he said his patrons are Hermes and Hades. My other argument is our synastry - we became committed super fast and we both want to get married (with each other lol) and having a family. Well, in my case I guess it would've been predictable, but for him it was unexpected. And I think that comes from a heavy aspectation of his Asc and especially DC rulers (especially by my rulers). That happens with Mercury/Jupiter much more than Moon/Saturn; in the case of a Gemini rising his Asc ruler would be on my Vertex trine my DC ruler and sextile my Asc ruler and his DC ruler would be on my NN, opp my DC ruler and trine my Asc ruler. It would make sense, because there's a lot of harmony, whereas I square his Moon and Saturn quite a bit. I'm not saying everything is perfect and easy, but our self expressions and wishes for a relationship seem to add up.

I agree his issues are partly psychosomatic. They could have started out that way, because his tremor begun after a dark period ended (sexual abuse ). He's still in therapy but it doesn't seem like it's helping him much at this point. I asked him if he'd be willing to change his therapist, try a different angle/therapy, but he's as stubborn about that as he is about his self-destructive lifestyle (basically, heavy drinker and smoker). He promised me he will quit drinking and smoking, and indeed he is drinking less than when I met him, but he hasn't fully stopped. His main argument used to be that it's the only thing calming his tremor, but he started taking another anti epileptic drug that also improved his tremor. So, there's nothing stopping him from quitting drinking, except his addiction. And I know from my own experiences that is a battle in itself.

Some days I just throw my hands in the air, I don't want to force or manipulate him into making these decisions. Maybe he's not ready. And to be honest, I'm dealing with my own stuff too (lost my Mom, my job, my aunt got cancer, money troubles, career issues, my father might be going mad etc). So there isn't much I can do, except suggest things to him, that he usually rejects, though he claims he wants to change. His ongoing depression doesn't help much either.

posted October 20, 2015 03:22 PM            

First off, I am so sorry to hear about your loss.
{{ hugs }}
Stay strong...
It doesn't help matters that you're having so many other struggles at the moment. That's rough...

Don't lose hope, don't forget that this too shall pass. I can only imagine how hard it is for you now, but hold on, take it one day at a time... Things will get better sooner than you think.

And now back to your guy...

You know what, you know him better than I do, or anyone else here, for that matter. So if you believe he is more likely to be a Gemini rising, by all means, keep that belief...

One thing that's pretty common with us Gemini ascendants is the shape of the face. Now, it's not the same for *every* Gemini rising out there, but I've noticed it quite a few times and it's often documented. Basically, it's kind of in a V-shape. The space between the ears is often significantly larger than the space where the mouth and chin are.
Like this guy.
The eyes are sometimes set rather widely apart, too, and can have a sort of "sparkle" in them, at least sometimes (the famous "mischievous" look).

We also often have trouble looking at something/someone in a very "fixed" way (though that's Gemini in general). The eyes tend to wander a lot. And the facial features tend to move a lot, there's a certain expressiveness, although I'd say it's less marked than with certain Lunar Geminis.

Long limbs are possible... Especially long fingers and toes.

In his case, Mercury is in Leo, fixed sign, so his body may be a bit more "squarish" than elongated.

Another thing to look at: Mercury conjunct Mars vs. Moon conjunct Venus.

If it's Gemini - Mars would be an important component...
If it's Cancer - Venus.

So try to see if he has more of Martian or Venusian traits (at least as far as appearance goes, and first meetings and so on).

It sounds like you guys both have some healing to do, and I really wish and hope that you will help each other through these difficult times.

posted October 21, 2015 04:08 PM            

I know things will get better - they MUST! Oddly, this is not the lowest I've ever been, even though I am dealing with a lot right now, it's overwhelming for sure, but it's nothing compared to hitting rock bottom in major depression and attempting suicide. That was my lowest point ever. This is just rough. I can handle it and it looks like things might improve a bit in some respects (finances and career), at least. One day at a time is my motto too. I can't handle more anyway lol.

Okay, I'm gonna post a picture of my boyfriend, which will self-destruct as soon as you see it and I'm near a computer. I'm too biased, perhaps.

Does he look like a Gemini rising or Cancer rising?

posted October 22, 2015 05:57 PM            

I'm glad to hear that you're holding on and that this is not the worst period of your life. You're strong! Keep it up.

Okay, now... This is only one (wo)man's opinion, but he strikes me as a Cancer ascendant on that picture, for sure... The big eyes, the shy smile... Yep, that's Cancer to me. Buuut don't take my word for it! Might prove interesting to gather other people's opinions on this, especially Kannon's...

During tSaturn square Moon, what happens is that you inevitably feel alone. It doesn't matter if there are people around you who love you, you'll just feel this sinking feeling of deep loneliness, and "aloneness". The "lesson" there though is to learn how to sit with those feelings and just allow yourself to feel miserable and lonely, basically. It can bring up a lot of childhood pain and just wounds from the past in general.

If you can, definitely try to make yourself as present and available as possible when he goes through that transit... Perhaps it won't be that bad for him (it doesn't have to be that bad for everyone!).

posted October 23, 2015 03:07 PM            

See, that might just be it.

Things will fall apart in one way or another, but *ultimately* it's for the best...
It's not going to be easy, neither for you nor for him (especially for him).

But yeah, Saturn is definitely intent on teaching him a lesson... Sigh. Tough times.