posted September 13, 2015 03:42 PM            

I wanted to update you about a topic we discussed in another thread: tertiary progressions and predicting major events. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/231950.html

Well, two major events happened to me in the interval of two weeks. First career-wise, my first piece of work was accepted (I mentioned this to you before) and second, something personal happened (though I don't want to get into details because I'm not exactly sure what it means and in what direction the situation will develop, or even if it will develop at all).

For both these events, my tertiary-progressed chart includes Neptune exactly conjunct DESC and Saturn exactly conjunct IC. Also my tp-MC was exactly conjunct my n-Sun (not sure if this is relevant). http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm171/soaringleaves/First%20Pub%20and%20A H%20br_zpsu39oblwc.gif

Ironically, my two transit charts didn't look spectacular--they looked much better a couple of months ago, when nothing happened. LOL! So I genuinely believe that the TP method is probably the most accurate one for predicting life-changing moments.

posted September 13, 2015 04:07 PM            

And I was wondering if something might happen, and well it did, surprisingly so, and since then I have been checking those, and they NEVER disappointed. though the orbs need to be really tight.

EDIT
I had never checked the dwarf planets before, but for the day I mentioned (with the New Moon in the tp on my natal DESC), there was also:

HAUMEA conjunct IC 0°22

February/March next year seems interesting.

tp Saturn conjunct tpASC

with tp Moon conjunct tp MC

and the month after that
tp Pluto conjunct tp IC

posted September 13, 2015 04:30 PM            

And yes, the orb to the angles should be less than 1 degree for this to work. As I mentioned in my original thread, I'm so sure of this fact that I'm adjusting the sketchy birth times based on the TPs. Ceridwen, I believe next year will be full of interesting events for you! Be prepared to seize the opportunities.

posted September 13, 2015 04:36 PM            

as for the ecclipse that would have been in march/april 2012 for me

tp Sun 9 Taurus
tp Moon 9 Taurus
(tp Jupiter 8 Taurus)

tp NN 12 Scorpio.

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april 2013

tp Sun 22 Taurus
tp Moon 22 Scorpio
tp NN 12 Sorpio

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posted September 13, 2015 04:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, me, too.

as for the ecclipse that would have been in march/april 2012 for me

tp Sun 9 Taurus
tp Moon 9 Taurus
(tp Jupiter 8 Taurus)

tp NN 12 Scorpio.

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Did anything major happen during those months? Of course it could also be that you felt more {depressed, recharged, etc} but you may not remember if that change happened just below your consciousness.

posted September 13, 2015 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I actually had done my dynamic report with tertiary progressions with Solar fire (which calculates the Moon right, and though you mentioned the outer ones, personally I have seen the Moon acting as a great timer too). a few interesting things coming up

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I'm sure the TP-Moon has an impact! I would guess that, at an emotional level, the entire month would be influenced by the position of the Moon in the TP chart.

To be honest, it's really difficult for me evaluate this aspect and separate the emotional impact of different Moon positions (my natal Moon has so many major aspects--8 aspects to planets, 2 to the dwarfs, etc.--that I'm living in a constant whirlpool of emotions). So I'm not the best person to study how the TP Moon impacts us. Someone with an unaspected natal Moon or very few aspects would be perfect to research this.

posted September 13, 2015 04:57 PM            

It`s almost funny and might nto really be related at all, but it actually had to do with Mr Sag. He had been approaching me during his concert in september 2011, which completely floored me, and I was certainly not able to deal with that. lol

I saw him again on a concert in New Year, but for some reason got that feeling, I donīt know, today I know I was simply getting paranoid and did not really understand anything that was going on. I was just so determined to see everything as the worst.
He did not actually do anything wrong, but that night led to me being totally adamant and determined to "stop that foolishness", which meant for me to not see him again ever, on no concerts, nothing, just make him disappear from my life, which I did. I disappeared, (at least for about 9 months). I made a cut I thought was necesary, and which still felt like a stupid, wrong thing (but admitting that to myself took some time).

During the time I was away and pouting and trying to get back to myself and convince myself that it was the adult thing to do, well later I learned that he broke up with his girlfriend (it had been VERY clear there were cracks, even in september of the year before, I felt it, I saw it, I sensed it, heck I even DREAMED it, and I did NOT believe my subconsciousness, which obviously had a better grip on what was going on than my defensive attitude), and curiously enough when this ecclipse took place in my tp he first sang a song, he had written himself, somewhen between New Years eve and well exactly that march, a song which hit too close to home for me, cause bizzarely it seemed to describe my behaviour as it would have looked to a bystander. I know it is probably just a coincidence, but coincidentally this took place the exact month my tp ecclipse was exact.

Well, more curiously it was exactly conjunct his natal Chiron as well.

maybe just a coincidence.

Other than that I had some very intense dreams and visions during that time, so it makes sense I suppose.

EDIT
oh and tp NN was conjunct our composite Uranus on 12 Scorpio, which rules the chart.

posted September 13, 2015 05:11 PM            

BTW, it's funny because, although I expected something major to happen to me during these last months (I've had not one, but two slow moving planets conjunct my angles in TP), both events found me utterly unprepared. Basically I expected something else to happen.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I have an unaspected Moon, well mostly I feel the tp Moon more like a timer, pointing a laserbeam onto something, but not necessarily emotional, that depends on what it really aspects. the aspects to Sun seem most important and the angles.

However if it conjuncts Neptune, often it can b e a little confusing; with Pluto, intense tension or at least intensity. and so on.

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posted September 14, 2015 08:21 AM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted September 14, 2015 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
WOW that is amazing, SL! This was our first discussion haha
I should check those more often...I remember you said the outers are the key.
Actually, the tertiary here happened for me too, for it was a reconciliation after one year! for the TP mentioned here, but within the following month and I need to check what happened on the T front for the precise moment of the reconciliation.
I am very happy to hear about your project, so the 10 of Wands paid off in the end

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Morning LeeLoo!

I hope you had a lovely celebration.

Alas, this wasn't the completion of my search for an "associate," but it was a big step ahead nonetheless. The problem was that I didn't have any of my work published, so this represents a validation of my work (to myself and to the rest of the folks in the industry, even if it was only a short piece). However the 10 OF WANDS paid off, because before, I'd given up on this story completely. I wasn't even trying to place it with a magazine anymore. So thank you for pushing me to keep trying!!

Glad to hear about your reconciliation. I'm so happy for you! Are you absolutely sure of your birth time though? I wouldn't change it for now, but if you notice that major events keep happening a month after the conjunctions, chances are your birth time needs to be tweaked by a few minutes.

posted September 14, 2015 09:25 AM            

TNN conj TIC (0)
TVenus conj TDSC (1) and, most importantly,

TPluto conj my natal Mercury, 5th and 8th ruler (0)

Moon conj Moon (1.3) - Moon DSC ruler btw

TMC conj nIC (0)

and of course TNN conj nMC (0)

also interestingly, T Jupiter/Chiron conj nChiron (1)

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted September 14, 2015 09:37 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
TNN conj TIC (0)

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This is it!! I had some life-shaking events every time when tp-NN touched an angle (many of them were of a spiritual nature, but still, they changed my view about life). And with an orb of 0°, I think you validate the method. (And I was just about to say that maybe I should allow for orbs up to 1.5 or 2°.)

posted September 14, 2015 01:45 PM            

tp NN conjunct tp ASC on 8 Leo
(funny enough my pMoon was on 8 Leo, too, at that time, and of course my pSun is on 7 Aquarius- just from an astrological perspective/thinking, it`s funny how synchronized our progressions are.

this is even true for our progressed composite, which will have a full Moon in january 2019. On 8 Leo-Aquarius. ).

What`s about that degree? Seriously? I mean except that our composite Karma is on 9 Leo. lol

just of interest for academic purpose of course.

posted September 14, 2015 01:48 PM            

astro.com uses the Moon where it is at the beginning of the month, and does not adjust it accordingly. But the moon moves appr. half a degree per day I think. (very roughly estimated).

For the othr positions it is not that bad, as Sun, Venus, ASC, MC move just a degree per month and the others are even slower.

posted September 14, 2015 02:08 PM            

But after a bit of melancholia about that, I also thought to myself that this is in the past, dealt and done with, it`s gone, no sense to cry about spilled milk.
And I also, in fleetingly thinking especially about last june-august/september (so, rather NOWish. lol), felt the sense of relief, cause it is clear that we accomplished a lot, worked a lot on finding some way of communication basis - as superficial as it might be- and I was suddenly finding myself thinking that it is almost a miracle that we managed (okay that I managed to get over myself mostly. ) to bridge that abyss of vagueness where we have been ever since my diverse disappearance acts. The image was just in my mind, that it was almost like a bridge of time and fogginess.

And this morning he posted this picture on his fb:

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adding the comment: "Building bridges..."

LOL
I swear sometimes it creeps me out a little. Sometimes I feel like he might - without knowing of course- listen into my thoughts.

it`s just those coincidences, they are sometimes hilarious.

BTW his Sun/Moon-mp and my asteroids REIKI, CIRCE and some others are on the 28th degree of Sagittarius; thjis is the Sabian

"An Old Bridge Over A Beautiful Stream Is Still In Constant Use"

Also, the last time we met, was during the fanmeeting of course, and his tpVertex was on 27°51 Sagittarius. lol

(also conjunct his natal Sun and Moon, while his tp Moon on 22.55 Gemini was conjunct my tp Venus on 21.58 Gemini and my tp Sun on 23.06 Gemini.

He himself was having

tpMC 19.29 Aries
tp Sun 19.26 Aries
tp Venus 19.57 Aries

no outer planets of course, but I still found this alignment interesting, actually tp mars is not that far off on 18.31 Aries.

posted September 14, 2015 02:20 PM            

Is any of you placing Mercury in the other's 12th house in synastry? I found that a certain sign of telepathy between two people (assuming that at least one of them has the smallest gift for it).

Also, don't worry about the lost opportunities. Maybe not getting what you wanted was a blessing in disguise (in the sense that one of you wasn't prepared at the time). My sis did NOT get a job when her tp-Jupiter was exactly conjunct her tp-MC and in the grand scheme of things, I think it was for the best.

posted September 14, 2015 03:08 PM            

"I am using astro.com, but as I said, it's a bit tricky for me to keep track of the many aspects of my Moon(s)"
Yes, of course the Moon is quickly moving.
I noticed that the orb has to be really just 1 degree to 1,5 degrees with her, plus it NEEDS to conjunct/ oppose an angle and/or Sun to have an impact.
It is also a timer in that if I trace slower moving conjunctions, I have noticd it is usually when the tp Moon triggers either those planets and/ or an angle (and definitely including the natal ones here!) that events manifest.
(the square sometimes seem to work, too, with angles and Sun at least).

maybe this is even a necessary rule that the tp Moon triggers the natal chart for expression, but I am not sure about that yet.

"But I understand where you are coming from: we should prorate the 10-15 degrees daily lunar movement to the entire month."
Yes.
for example at the beginning of the month the Moon could be at 5 Sagittarius, but you want to know about an event 12 days later.
Then the Moon would be a few degrees further apart (possibly around 10-12 degrees Sag, which is of course very different to the 5 Sag-position).

"Is any of you placing Mercury in the other's 12th house in synastry?"
No, his Mercury is in my 1st (conj. ASC), my Mercury in his 9th (conj. MC).

But his MErcury is conjunct my Neptune under one degree; my Mercury conjuncts his Neptune with just under 5 degrees, resulting in a 2 degrees conjunction of Mercury and Neptune in the composite.

Additionally my Psyche is conjunct his Psyche-Pallas in Aquarius, squared by his Uranus.

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Also, don't worry about the lost opportunities. Maybe not getting what you wanted was a blessing in disguise (in the sense that one of you wasn't prepared at the time)."
Yes, I am aware of that. I definitely would have not be prepared. Well I definitely have come a long way in the last 3 years.

I am not really regretting anything, I could not have acted differently at that time. I think everything is exactly as it should be. I am totally alright with it. even though it is even for me hard to understand. lol

posted September 14, 2015 04:13 PM            

my Dad had that, too when his mom died.

TP MC 9.39 Libra
TP Saturn 8.28 Libra

n Mars 9.19 Libra
n SN 9.42 Libra

And the transits of that moment

Tr ASC 8°59 Cancer
Tr Pluto 9°57 Capricorn
Tr Moon 9°59 Libra

I am getting goosebumps everytime I see those!

Even more so, since my progressions for that moment showed:

pr ASC 9.49 Capricorn
pr Moon 10.02 Cancer
pr Pluto 9.11 Libra (just having turned retro)

tp Moon 8.08 Capricorn
tp Pluto 9.12 Libra R

especially in terms of my grandmother`s natal charts who showed this:

Pluto 8.27 Cancer
Mars 9.03 Cancer
Sun 9.59 Cancer

posted September 14, 2015 05:04 PM            

Sun 11.06 Scorpio
IC 11.20 Scorpio

it's like he is going into the incarnation point, but also symbolic for going into the ground, I guess

Mars in Aries 11.21 (sudden death)

No outers though, but so symbolic

Comparison with natal chart shows Chiron conj MC (1)

What I had was a cardinal cross made of

Jupiter conj MC (1) and Chiron (3) sq by an exact Venus/Saturn opp

I had the same TNN conj nMC (1.3)
and

TNeptune conj NN (0) that's a strange one, I didn't notice this one, it's still there, one degree away.

posted September 14, 2015 10:31 PM            

Just as a note, I found that, when two people are affected by an event, the conjunction seems to occur in the inactive-person's chart, not in the catalyst-person's chart, even when both are emotionally affected. So these conjunctions seem to mark events that *happen* to you, not that are *caused* by you (even if you caused them on the spur of the moment!).

@Ceri, your synastry sounds pretty amazing.

posted September 15, 2015 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
So I can find clues in her TPs also? I do not know her tob.. tried for years to figure out her rising, then it hit me when she died, she must have been Aries rising.

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