posted October 03, 2015 06:14 AM            

Firstly, I would say that the reason, why this person said to you that you would be subservient to your (older) partner is because she saw Venus/Saturn aspect. This person only gave you a part of interpretation of this aspect, which to me doesn’t seem quite right…

Now…

I am no expert, I am still learning, but whenever there is a question that has something to do with 'older’ or better said – mature people, I tend to look into Saturn in a chart and it’s aspects with other planets.

Your Saturn makes brief hard aspect with Venus which COULD (not necessarily would) indicate some problems when it comes to relationships. There are different ways for this aspect to be manifested. My thoughts would be: either you are afraid to take/accept responsibility that comes with an established relationship or you are simply too afraid of rejection and therefore you don’t like to enter a relationship with a person that doesn’t look mature (in sense of acting mature or in an actual age) enough.

So I would not say that you are attracted to ‘older’ people. I believe that you are attracted to ‘mature’ people, which is not always the same.

Regarding to ‘subservient’ thing that you mentioned… People with Venus-Saturn (hard) aspect often have problems with self-worth. So IF you have problem with your self-worth, you could be subservient to other person only because you don’t believe that you are worthy enough of that person. The key is that you learn to love yourself first. This sounds really cliché, but with Venus-Saturn people this is really true.

But what I like with Saturn it is, that (in connection with Venus) it brings great rewards on a longer run. I don’t know your age, but usually first changes can be seen with First Saturn Return (which happens when a person is around 29/30 years old) and after that person slowly starts to change her perspective on life, relationships and also self-worth.

posted October 03, 2015 06:57 AM            

My father has always been in my life he hasn't been physically abusive towards. However he is at times verbally abusive. I still don't think that's the reason why I'm attracted to older men though. As I said I have always been attracted to older men and I never think of my father when it comes to the attraction I have to older men.

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Originally posted by LostSoulRebecca:
Hi, ChildofVenus!

Firstly, I would say that the reason, why this person said to you that you would be subservient to your (older) partner is because she saw Venus/Saturn aspect. This person only gave you a part of interpretation of this aspect, which to me doesn’t seem quite right…

Now…

I am no expert, I am still learning, but whenever there is a question that has something to do with 'older’ or better said – mature people, I tend to look into Saturn in a chart and it’s aspects with other planets.

Your Saturn makes brief hard aspect with Venus which COULD (not necessarily would) indicate some problems when it comes to relationships. There are different ways for this aspect to be manifested. My thoughts would be: either you are afraid to take/accept responsibility that comes with an established relationship or you are simply too afraid of rejection and therefore you don’t like to enter a relationship with a person that doesn’t look mature (in sense of acting mature or in an actual age) enough.

So I would not say that you are attracted to ‘older’ people. I believe that you are attracted to ‘mature’ people, which is not always the same.

Regarding to ‘subservient’ thing that you mentioned… People with Venus-Saturn (hard) aspect often have problems with self-worth. So IF you have problem with your self-worth, you could be subservient to other person only because you don’t believe that you are worthy enough of that person. The key is that you learn to love yourself first. This sounds really cliché, but with Venus-Saturn people this is really true.

But what I like with Saturn it is, that (in connection with Venus) it brings great rewards on a longer run. I don’t know your age, but usually first changes can be seen with First Saturn Return (which happens when a person is around 29/30 years old) and after that person slowly starts to change her perspective on life, relationships and also self-worth.

Love, LRS.

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posted October 03, 2015 07:15 AM            

But as I said – I don’t believe you are attracted to OLDER men. You are more likely attracted to MATURE men (and they usually probably are much older than you, are having much more experiences than you). I don’t see anything wrong with that, LOL. And also I don’t believe that you would be subservient to an older man in case if you get into relationship with an older man. It's all about how you value yourself – that will determine your relationship with (any) man.

I hope that this helped you.

posted October 03, 2015 07:22 AM            

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Originally posted by LostSoulRebecca:
I didn’t say that you being attracted to older men has anything to do with your father. But well, Saturn usually represent a father in person's chart and if you read articles on psychoanalysis, they say that girl/woman is usually attracted to a man that has the same qualities (bad or good) as her father has/had…

But as I said – I don’t believe you are attracted to OLDER men. You are more likely attracted to MATURE men (and they usually probably are much older than you, are having much more experiences than you). I don’t see anything wrong with that, LOL. And also I don’t believe that you would be subservient to an older man in case if you get into relationship with an older man. It's all about how you value yourself – that will determine your relationship with (any) man.

I hope that this helped you.

Love, LRS.

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posted October 03, 2015 07:47 AM            

You have the rule of your 7th house (Neptune) in the 5th house in the sign of Capricorn. Saturn is in 4th house.

posted October 03, 2015 08:26 AM            

Rosalind, with all the respect of your knowledge, but you are assuming that all people believe in past life, which is not always true. Some people do, others don’t. And we need to respect this.

Also you can’t just diminish the impact of Venus/Saturn as being piece of c**p. Because it simply isn’t.

I don’t know what kind of experiences you have had so far in astrology, but I have seen 8 people (out of 9), who have Venus/Saturn aspect – and I am also one of them, having a strong conjunction, so I can speak from experiences – and this aspect IS important for their love life. They have all chosen either a significantly older partner (8 years or more) or a partner, who support them financially very well and therefore give him/her a feeling of safety.

posted October 03, 2015 08:34 AM            

I have ALL my personal planets squaring Saturn and 6 of them are Rx. My relationship with my father has no issues. Guess what? I don't have the pattern of being attracted to older men. Never had it.

Now, regarding past lives? I really don't care if someone believes or not in it. I am just telling what I am seeing.
Regarding your experiences, it's just that. Your experiences. People are different, living different lives, choosing different paths. Just respect that.

Nobody is forcing you to believe in karma, but you must not force others to believe in what YOU want them to believe.

PS: You said: "Rosalind, with all the respect of your knowledge, but you are assuming that all people believe in past life, which is not always true. Some people do, others don’t. And we need to respect this."

posted October 03, 2015 10:19 AM            

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Nobody is forcing you to believe in karma, but you must not force others to believe in what YOU want them to believe.

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So, you said ''The Venus square Saturn indicator is a piece of crap. Not true.'' You diminished all what was said about Saturn and further you developed your theory (explanation) of past life and its impact on life (’’ What you have is a very strong karma with your... FATHER. Dunno what kind of relationship you have in this life with him but I do know what kind of relationship you had in a past life with him...'' ) which can only be excepted if person believes in past life. What about if I don’t believe? My statement ‘‘..but you are assuming that…’’ really wasn’t’ written to attack your point of view or anything, it was written only as a reminder that a part of your explanation just can’t hold the water if person doesn’t believe in past life.

When I mentioned experiences, I didn’t mean my own experiences with Saturn. That would be one-sided and unprofessional, I guess. I meant that I looked into people’s charts – those people all life different lives and life paths are from different regions and of different ages. They all have Venus/Saturn aspect (conjunction, square or opposition) and I was searching for possible similarities of Venus/Saturn manifestation in their lives. And I found them, which was really amazing for me personally. This is how astrologers learn, right?

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I have ALL my personal planets squaring Saturn and 6 of them are Rx. My relationship with my father has no issues. Guess what? I don't have the pattern of being attracted to older men. Never had it.

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There is only 6 personal planets. From Sun to Jupiter (some are saying that Saturn is also one of them, so 7 tops).

posted October 03, 2015 10:34 AM            

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Originally posted by LostSoulRebecca:
@rosalind

There is only 6 personal planets. From Sun to Jupiter (some are saying that Saturn is also one of them, so 7 tops).

Now from astrologer’s point of view – have you ever considered that a planet, when it is Rx, acts a bit differently than when it’s not, ergo aspects with Rx planets have a bit different way of manifestation in life in comparison when they are not Rx? Just asking – because having so many planets Rx and all in aspect with Saturn it could diminish the power of Saturn, doesn’t it? I would really love to see your chart, sounds interesting…

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posted October 03, 2015 10:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I have no interest to show my chart to you. No offence but I don't believe in your astrological skills.

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posted October 03, 2015 10:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
The Venus square Saturn indicator is a piece of crap. Not true.

You have the rule of your 7th house (Neptune) in the 5th house in the sign of Capricorn. Saturn is in 4th house.

You are ATTRACTED TO older men since teenagehood because that's Neptune's role. You THINK you are attracted to them but you really are not. Neptune in 5th house in Capricorn created the illusion that you are attracted to older men, due Saturn. But in fact... you are not. What you have is a very strong karma with your... FATHER. Dunno what kind of relationship you have in this life with him but I do know what kind of relationship you had in a past life with him. Your father was a very strict and cold person towards you and his other children. This brought to you many "daddy issues" and made you seek in men ( older men) what your father didn't give you. Because you were unable to solve this karma in a past life, you were born to solve it in this one or in the next one. It's only up to you. The karma you have with your father is very heavy. Try to clean it and learn to FORGIVE. I see your father was very abusive towards you in a past life ( you were his youngest child) and he didn't want you. Now he must learn to appreciate you and you must teach him to love you and your lesson is to forgive him for all his bad doings.

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@Rosalind you have made me one time general natal chart reading. I remembered it when I read this threat. And I'm still impressed about your skills. May I ask you if you have time to look my chart again considering career/money at this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/017260.html
I can exchange if you don't have time or otherwise you can not have a nice autumn time

posted October 03, 2015 12:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
The Venus square Saturn indicator is a piece of crap. Not true.

You have the rule of your 7th house (Neptune) in the 5th house in the sign of Capricorn. Saturn is in 4th house.

You are ATTRACTED TO older men since teenagehood because that's Neptune's role. You THINK you are attracted to them but you really are not. Neptune in 5th house in Capricorn created the illusion that you are attracted to older men, due Saturn. But in fact... you are not. What you have is a very strong karma with your... FATHER. Dunno what kind of relationship you have in this life with him but I do know what kind of relationship you had in a past life with him. Your father was a very strict and cold person towards you and his other children. This brought to you many "daddy issues" and made you seek in men ( older men) what your father didn't give you. Because you were unable to solve this karma in a past life, you were born to solve it in this one or in the next one. It's only up to you. The karma you have with your father is very heavy. Try to clean it and learn to FORGIVE. I see your father was very abusive towards you in a past life ( you were his youngest child) and he didn't want you. Now he must learn to appreciate you and you must teach him to love you and your lesson is to forgive him for all his bad doings.

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posted October 03, 2015 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by LostSoulRebecca:
[b]ChildofVenus, no need to worry. Maybe it sounds cliché but love really does not know age difference. For example: for me it’s all about emotional, intellectual and also physical connection with someone.

Rosalind, with all the respect of your knowledge, but you are assuming that all people believe in past life, which is not always true. Some people do, others don’t. And we need to respect this.

Also you can’t just diminish the impact of Venus/Saturn as being piece of c**p. Because it simply isn’t.

I don’t know what kind of experiences you have had so far in astrology, but I have seen 8 people (out of 9), who have Venus/Saturn aspect – and I am also one of them, having a strong conjunction, so I can speak from experiences – and this aspect IS important for their love life. They have all chosen either a significantly older partner (8 years or more) or a partner, who support them financially very well and therefore give him/her a feeling of safety.

I personally don’t believe in past life and I don’t believe in karma. But I do believe that planets and aspect in our natal chart have some meaning for our life and give us opportunity to evolve ourselves in person that we are meant to be. [/B]

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posted October 03, 2015 01:15 PM            

You also have venus square uranus as well as venus square saturn. I read with either of these aspects there can be(not always though) a bit of an age difference.

Also you have mars in the 10th house, maybe that also plays a role.

I might be wrong though, but these are just a thought

posted October 03, 2015 01:24 PM            

And Rosalind I have same chart as op exCept neptunes in 4th and I had dad issues although it sort of worked itself out lol.

posted October 03, 2015 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by VacantGazer:
I might be completley wrong, but I had a thought - perhaps DSC ruler conjunct Saturn?

You also have venus square uranus as well as venus square saturn. I read with either of these aspects there can be(not always though) a bit of an age difference.

Also you have mars in the 10th house, maybe that also plays a role.

I might be wrong though, but these are just a thought

Please dont quote my posts might edit later

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posted October 03, 2015 02:58 PM            

Your question,

DSC is the cusp of the 7th house.

7th house relates to 1-1 relationships, marriage etc..

Your 7 house cusp is in aquarius so the ruler is uranus.

You have uranus conjuncting saturn.

Can you also unquote my post? Thanks

posted October 03, 2015 05:38 PM            

My 5th house cusp is in Cancer and the 7th in Virgo. So they don't indicate older partners.

I don't know if you're attracted for just the psychological maturity in a partner like LSRebecca said, but in my case I just don't feel physically attracted for guys my age. Period.

Guy I'm with now is 14 years older. And I secretly love another one who is even older, but...with Venus/Saturn you always need to know your worth as a person and use your rationality in choosing a partner/lover/boyfriend.

Some situations are doomed from the start.

posted October 03, 2015 08:37 PM            

I'll have to keep that in mind that I have to be careful with who I decide to be in a serious relationship with. Why is it so important though with this aspect though?

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Originally posted by Soltze:
I believe the aspect is key here. I have Venus opp Saturn.

My 5th house cusp is in Cancer and the 7th in Virgo. So they don't indicate older partners.

I don't know if you're attracted for just the psychological maturity in a partner like LSRebecca said, but in my case I just don't feel physically attracted for guys my age. Period.

Guy I'm with now is 14 years older. And I secretly love another one who is even older, but...with Venus/Saturn you always need to know your worth as a person and use your rationality in choosing a partner/lover/boyfriend.

Some situations are doomed from the start.

Also since you have a Pisces Venus, maybe the person who told that, was thinking that maybe you have a problem establishing boundaries in romantic relationships, therefore the older partner (Saturn) would have the upper hand.

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posted October 04, 2015 01:16 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I don't have daddy issues also I am the only child. As far as my father not wanting me I don't believe that's true at all. My father has been apart of my life since childhood. No I don't have a perfect relationship with my father. Though I could have had worse I know that he cares about me. Yes I have always been attracted to older men. I thought maybe it's because of the Venus square Saturn in my birth chart. I just don't see the connection with me being attracted to older men having anything to do with the relationship with my father. If my father wasn't apart of my life then yes maybe that might of been the case but really. For example my dad and I spent plenty of time together when I was a child. Yes as I said before he at times he does say mean things to me. But it's never out of the blue usually when he and I argue he's never abused me physically at all.

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posted October 04, 2015 07:19 AM            

How am I suppose to clear things now that happened in my past life?

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Sweetheart, please, read again my post. What I did to you was a karmic reading. A PAST LIFE READING. Your past life father was abusive and you had daddy issues with him and he didn't want you. It doesn't matter what kind of relationship you have with your current life father, you carry the pattern of your past life karma with you until you clear it for good.

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